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Old Apr-02-2008, 16:00
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Originally Posted by pisshead View Post
well i'm sold! in the name of human rights and freedom let's torture all of them! go china!!
What some Americans do not get is that China does not believe in religious freedom, often for very justified reasons. They understand that these types of cults lead to violence, often involving death, corruption, ignorance, delusions, and sickness. When they try to reason with cult groups, and it fails to produce any improvements, they will try to re-educate them - and oversee the results. If the program doesn't work, then they go to the next level.

I don't always agree with their tactics, but I don't know all of the facts and refuse to condemn them in most cases.

The Chinese are not into crackpot, irrational groups - and they will do whatever is necessary to keep them under varying degrees of control. That's they way they do things, and we should not be so quick to criticize, without knowing and understanding the facts.

They way they see it, Falun Gong is a criminal organization because they spread insane beliefs, often by very questionalbe method to people that are vulnerable - much like all religious organizations. But, this one is pretty far out, even by China's strict standard of secularism. Falun Gong profits from it, and the Chinese know this. That is why they persecute their existence as an organization. If they didn't, they wouldn't be China.

It was Christian, and other, missionaries and churches in the 18th, 19th, and early 20th century that were largely responsible for China becoming Communist in the first place. They have plenty of experience being fucked with by religion, so we should forget about changing their minds about Falun Gong and other cults and religions.
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