BUT realize why they don't work for us in hydro.....you have to get the light closer which is fine in soil but in our setups we are constantly having to remove the plant from the bucket and the lower lighting gets in the way. Took me awhile but I finally realized that the HID lights can be farther away from the plants making things easier to deal with in the w/f buckets but the flouros have DEFINITELY found a place in our hearts and grow area.
PS...they also work great to provide low heat to new seedlings and/or clones as you can see.
We got rid of our SNL x NH....it simply was not growing well and when we removed it from the higromite we could see why.....I really MANGLED the roots with my early flushing of that plant (and two others) with and INCORRECT ph (close to 7) so reminder to everyone to
ph ph ph.....especially in hydro.