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Hello Folks,

After some attempts at research on other forums with little luck, I had the very good fortune to stumble on this one. I admire the dialog and the focus 'cuss on some of the other forums I don't think they were able to string coherent thoughts very well and getting them written down appeared to be a chore...... At anyrate, I hope you will let me tag along and on occations ask a dumb question or two

In many ways I am alot like Justanotherbozo in that I did my electronics training in the military (Army) many years ago. I follow the discussion and the logic but am lost on the more technical aspects of the science.... weak on math being my biggest problem. Anyway I have been a fan of LEDs for little lighting projects for some time and have enjoyed the benifits of good herb for much longer so the coalescence of growing with such a wonderful little creations has caught my fancy. The use of pulsed light has me intriuged. Will be interested to see the outcome of work in that direction.

In formulating a plan for how I am going to use leds as grow lights I am focusing on heat. This is my enemy at the moment. I don't have a good way to vent it. While I am not opposed to the use of high output LEDs for efficient cultivation if I can develope the use of 5mm lighting for small grows (1 or 2 plants max), I will be happy. I am willing to sacrafice quanity for an intimate growing area for say 4sq that, except for minimal ventilation runs at near ambient temperatures. With that In mind and after having read this entire thread, I have a couple of questions.

1. I would like to know if barking up the 5mm led tree is a real dead end or is it just less efficient. I think I recall something being said about them being very poor for flowering but is that because 5mm leds are just no good or was it a poor choice of frequency band. Because of my situation, I am very heat averse in that even power leds might lead to a ventilation problem for me. Can anybody confirm good results from blue 5mm led arrays. I have tried to find information in other places but as you know, reliable info is sparse. Lots of claims by this product maker or that but little hard results for grow tests.

2. I find one part of the discussion about the right mix of emitters confusing. Phyicnole is intending to use a blend of several different frequencies in his array. This I agree with, as some of these lesser used parts of the spectrum may indeed have collaborative or supportive processes to the more generally agreed on 'important' frequencies. Where I have a problem is that while he is using several of the major frequency emitters which will 'blanket' the plant with reactive spectrum, the inclusion of say a couple of emitters of a specific range in an array will only put that part of the spectrum on a small portion of the plant(s). Will this, in the end, provide much of a benifit if for instance this part of the spectrum is photoactive with the flowering buds and these few emitters are focused on the plant's folage or vise a verse. For instance the 505nm emitters. While there are three of them, their total output is small. If these leds are focused in the wrong places. 1. it will ad nothing measurable to the experiment 2. will not forward the research 3. will be a waste of resources(Cash and Electric) I do realize that there are cost constraints to the project and given that, choices must be made. Where I am confused is where this experement will validate or invalidate the use of these sparsely used emitters.

Aloha Cofort Zone.

E Como Mai! (welcome)

I own a 5mm. array built from a kit sold by HGL.
While they do work well for cloning.
I doubt that they have enough fire for flowering.
I then built a 10 mm. array of 300 X 60 Candela LEDs.
Picture attached.
It has enough punch to keep a momma going slow for a long time.
When flower time comes around, more light is better.
You can purchase 5 Watt stars and drive them at 2.5 - 3 Watts,
They will run quite cool and thus be much more efficient.
If and when you need 100 Watts or so, I find 4" flexible dryer vent hose with a muffin fan on the end is very handy for directing the heat to somewhere it is needed.
As for chasing tiny bumps in the absorbtion spectrum, not very productive in my opinion.
My solution?
Screw purity, I'll just add a high wattage wide spectrum CFL to the mix and be pau.
Nevah had the precision necessary to do real science. I'll leave that to Steve Fortier, SnStealth. Physicsnole, Redline, etc.
They have true attention to detail and dedication.
I'm jus' a simple country wizard, more lucky dan smart.
So, I hang arou' here lookin' for ways to help out.
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