I cloned at 27 days of veg, which was the 31 day from seed....I could of cloned about a week earlier, but waited because i thought my friend was going to help me out....He didnt...I cut them at 27 days. i didnt fim, lst,pinch or any type of way of bushing the plants out....except...everytime i watered them i pulled the big fan leafs down so the lower shoots could get light...i would kinda lst the fan leafs with the new shoots if you can picture this in your head....i dont know...they just were bushes, and a pleasure to grow....everyday i would see 6-8 new leafs from day 10 on...

good luck and thanks for the complement Diplmat....ill have a new log posted in a day or two when my critically smashed seed crack....also ordered some ch9 green bud females so...so more male grow logs..