Wow again.

First off, I do believe I mentioned MORE THAN ONCE that the people here generally had their shit together and rarely got their Fruit of the Looms all wadded up when someone did something different. Yet, I have read more than one message that more than suggests that in fact, SEVERAL people got their Fruit of the Looms all wadded up because I was critical of THE ENTIRE STATE OF AFFAIRS over the whole web - NOT THIS SITE.

I know - you're a bunch of stoners, I should not expect much in the way of comprehension, right?

The point is, was, and always will be, that there are people who do NOT understand the keep it simple, and keep it inexpensive concept that the person growing one or two plants needs to follow. Most of the basics are strictly common sense, yet there are people that set up their own site and actually seem to preach AGAINST common sense.

What would be nice is that if I was looking up information about what temperature to grow at, or how much light a couple of plants need, or how moist the soil needs to be to grow in a pot that the answers be somehow approximately the same. That is simply not the case.

I've pretty much stuck with what I have heard here for the most part. Yes, there are people with some absolutely bizarre ideas of how and why some things are done, but most of them also seem to be people who looked at one single dubious source of information and somehow decided that was the only way. And there are a few people here who have said, "I don't know why x is done this way, I just do it" which is what later leads to those bizarre ideas being reproduced due to this little www game that strongly resembles broken telephone.

If people want to slag me and yap like I somehow personally insulted you or this site directly, knock yourself out. That's your prerogative - even if you are way out of line.

I stand by the original concept of this thread.

Contradictions suck. If I need to know if I should buy a fan or not because my grow space is running at 90°F, I'd like some kind of direct answer that makes sense and so would most other new people. If I need to know how deep to transplant my seedlings, I'd like to know how deep my seedlings can go in soil and not get a lecture on something about more lights blah blah spend $400 blah blah from growyourownstinkyassmaryjane.com. And if I get one more answer that sounds like an adult protective undergarment when I ask a specific question with specific details, I'm going to have to hit someone with some fish emulsion.

For all you long-time people, as a noob at this but an internet user for 15 years and a BBS user for 10 years before that, I'll tell you a couple of things about THIS site:

1) Stickies work. Fantastic info.

2) Search SUCKS. And I mean SUCKS sucks. It sucks so hard it almost starts to blow. Any search which gives you any more than 5 threads to read is POINTLESS. Most searches for pertinent information give you dozens of threads including hundreds of messages, or nothing at all. Do YOU have 3 hours to weed through that many posts? No? What are you trying to do, haze the newbies?

3) Giving a 5 word answer and then a 2 paragraph lecture on what someone SHOULD have done rather than ask their question ain't friendly, welcoming behaviour. FYI, this didn't happen to me - but I saw it several times using the aforementioned SEARCH function.

4) You've had X years to sort the BS from the truth, so for you it is easy. Newbies have had 0 years, and everything sounds true because you have NO idea how to weight things. Some have forgotten what it was like to have 0 grows of experience. SOME, NOT ALL, so don't start on me again about how "you're doing your best" - if you are doing your best to help, I am not talking to you, am I? Those who have forgotten know EXACTLY who they are. When I trained people to use computers, I never treated anyone I was teaching like that. Ignorance is not the same as stupid.

I didn't expect to get some of the kinds of responses I got. I thought I made it clear that the contradictions were all over the www. Now, instead of being able to get something harmlessly off my chest I feel like a few people are acting like I am some kind of ungrateful prick.

That ain't real friendly, neither...