Well the two Africian buzz both turned out to be male i fond pollen sacks but no hairs shame it wouled have been nice to have one each but they are gone now.Any way so i have two unknown females and with me leting them gorw to long i have had to bend them over to stop them reaching the lihgt and i have made a sog type rack which ill put on in a day or so ill put some pics up when ive done it.