i hate that shit. fuck i cant even express how much.. it just doesnt do anything no matter how much i take and it makes me feel so uncomfortable. i always get this 'itch' where i have to kept moving or my body convulses (its fucked up). most of the time i get too tired to enjoy it anyway. i dont recommmend doing it. just stick to the proven shit. weed, shrooms and booze at the same time.