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As angry as it does make me, which is absolutely furious, by getting worked up about it, we get taken less seriously. To really change anything, we have to be calm and go about it in a mature way. I don't know what that way would be, but by getting angry, we're hurting the case.
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They were alot angrier withdrawing off booze during prohibition. Look at Capone, the Kennedy compound. ha

Must be something to do with the drug.
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I am downright FURIOUS with how this natural occurrence is treated in this country..It's time for America to simply get over it and realize marijuana needs to be treated just as alcohol and tobacco are in terms of regulated sale..
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Wow, I AM PISSED OFF TOO; I just lost my job last week due to a positive on a random drug test for marijuana. I decided to fuck with them hard, I hired this high priced lawyer, and she wrote this mean nasty letter to my former company. I took a random drug test for my job on Monday January 28, 2008. On Wednesday January 30 the test came back positive for marijuana. I called my supervisor that told me that it is automatic dismissal. I asked to retake the test, and was told no. I contacted a local attorney who advised me to go to the nearest lab, a one different from the lab I had taken the first test, to be retested. I went the same day I got the news, and retook the drug test, which came back negative. I am so angry and want to take some legal action. I am not sure I even want that job any more due to the fact I feel like criminal. I am a 49 year old divorced women living with my mother. I just am wondering if I can take action against the company for putting me through this hell. If they want to fire me, than fine, but I will make you work for this. Run bitches and make sure you have crossed all of your t’s and your I’s are dotted. I am lucky to be able to hire a lawyer, and to be honest, I don’t give a shit if I win or not, the thing is I am wasting their time and money to fuck with them. Oh and I am in a small southern town and my husband is MUSLIM living in Kuwait, they couldn’t wait to get rid of me. I worked for a Christian organization, and the compassion and the love really blows me away. They were cleaning out my office when they told me, oh yea, you no longer work here. I was given three drug tests with in a 15 month period, no one else in that place had anything close to that, my co-worker had two in 5 years, big difference. They were watching me, but good thing I have my review and it was stellar, so they can’t say that I had any behavioral problems or absents, since I only took one sick day in over 15 months. All they have is one positive test for marijuana, so bring it bitches. If enough of us start to make them work and run around fucking with their time and their money, maybe they will rethink this drug test shit.
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Well, they can legally fire you for failing a drug test, however, if I am not mistaken, they are required by law to allow you to retake. You'd have to double check with your lawyer on this one.

If all is as you say, then you may have grounds for a lawsuit, but again, only your lawyer can really answer that for you.

I'd be pretty pissed off in your position, and I really hope everything gets resolved to your satisfaction. I think they should be required to prove that your marijuana usage is affecting your work.
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Thanks, I don't want the job, I just want to stick it to them hard. Let them run around and check and re-check to make sure everything was done correctly. I do have my co-worker who was at the lab at the time of the test and she said that the lady who called my employer was talking very loud, and it is against the confidentiality's thing that you can't do that. EVERYBODY IN THAT WAITING ROOM KNEW WHAT HAPPENED TO ME!!!!!!!!! So if they want to play hard ball we can do that, but it is nice to let my lawyer just do all the work, I hate those fucks
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Yep, definitely let your lawyer take care of it. They'll probably be much more calm than you.
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Pot is still illegal because any elected official that tries to get it legalized in Washington is committing political suicide and he knows it.

It's all in education.

You guys have seen Reefer Madness, it was in it's day a "documentary" type presentation. And it wasn't even the tip of the iceberg. There was a huge propaganda campaign that actually convinced most people of the time that pot made you a raving phsycho, sex fiend, mass murderer and it was dangerous. They even threw in the race card and said it made blacks insane and had to be outlawed.

That's what the post WWII generation was indoctrinated with for decades. I'm old enough to have lived in the tail end of those times, but young enough to have laughed it off.

But the people who vote most consistently, who decide most elections are the folks older than me that sincerely believe pot is evil. My own parents did, they are in their 80's. They have since come around and realized it's nothing like they were told and both even though they don't like pot agree it should be legal.

Pot will only be legalized when that generation dies off and the Vietnam war era folks are the 80 year olds and in charge and voting.

Even then it will be hard to get a politician to risk his career trying to get it legalized in congress. There's simply nothing in it for him but loss of votes, no reason to try.

If a politician thought that legalizing pot would gain him more votes, he would try to get it done, or at least promise he would during a campaign.

If all pot smokers made it clear somehow that they would get out and vote for pro pot politicians, meaning money and lobbying.
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Don't forget DuPont and Hearst deliberately lying about marijuana to Congress and anyone else who would listen (which was a great number of people considering Hearst...).



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Pot is still illegal because any elected official that tries to get it legalized in Washington is committing political suicide and he knows it.

It's all in education.

You guys have seen Reefer Madness, it was in it's day a "documentary" type presentation. And it wasn't even the tip of the iceberg. There was a huge propaganda campaign that actually convinced most people of the time that pot made you a raving phsycho, sex fiend, mass murderer and it was dangerous. They even threw in the race card and said it made blacks insane and had to be outlawed.

That's what the post WWII generation was indoctrinated with for decades. I'm old enough to have lived in the tail end of those times, but young enough to have laughed it off.

But the people who vote most consistently, who decide most elections are the folks older than me that sincerely believe pot is evil. My own parents did, they are in their 80's. They have since come around and realized it's nothing like they were told and both even though they don't like pot agree it should be legal.

Pot will only be legalized when that generation dies off and the Vietnam war era folks are the 80 year olds and in charge and voting.

Even then it will be hard to get a politician to risk his career trying to get it legalized in congress. There's simply nothing in it for him but loss of votes, no reason to try.

If a politician thought that legalizing pot would gain him more votes, he would try to get it done, or at least promise he would during a campaign.

If all pot smokers made it clear somehow that they would get out and vote for pro pot politicians, meaning money and lobbying.
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Don't forget DuPont and Hearst deliberately lying about marijuana to Congress and anyone else who would listen (which was a great number of people considering Hearst...).
Exactly, those decades of propaganda are still overshadowing the politics of pot today.

Education of the masses of older folks is where it's at, get the AARP behind it type of organizing.

What got my stodgy old parents behind it was the statistics of so many people jailed over it, and the cost to the country more than anything.

Prison costs and numbers of people in overcrowded prisons might just be the ticket to get it legalized in the end. Nobody likes to pay taxes and pot prohibition costs us about 25 billion a year, when it could be bringing in 100 or so billion in taxes.

It would even give big tobacco a clean way out of cigarrettes, tobacco farmers a clean way out of tobacco farming etc. The tax infrastructure is already there, the farms are there, the plants for curing, blending rolling and packaging are there... It would be so easy and good for the country.
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Well, I'm so mad that I constantly get the urge to go tip something over or light a dumpster on fire whenever I see those god damn Truth commercials for Pot.

Damnit, now I'm all pissed off just thinking about it...WTF DOES A DOG TALKING TO YOU OR A ALIEN STEALING YOUR GIRLFRIEND HAVE TO DO WITH POT?
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the situation in england as it stands is that PM gordon brown (unelected, took office with his own agenda in mind) will press on with his efforts to reschedule ganj from a class C drug to a class B drug. it shouldn't be class anything.

In upgrading cannabis, he is expected to go against the expert opinion of his OWN advisors, who recommend cannabis remains class C.

Aside from the fact that the medical community contiues to be ignored, to further add salt to the wound, one of the reasons given for reclassification is tougher penalties for dealers.
well, as it stands under class C dealers get upto 14 yrs max, users get upto 2 yrs. whereas under class B dealers would still get 14 yrs, except me and you would get 5 years. THE CHANGE TARGETS THE USERS JUST AS MUCH AS DEALERS

Also, G.Brown says the reason for this is to send the message to youth that cannabis is dangerous and harmful 'just like alcohol' - despite this bein bollocks WHAT POSSIBLE JUSTIFICATION CAN THEY HAVE FOR ALLOWING ALCOHOL BUT NOT WEED

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Damnit, now I'm all pissed off just thinking about it...WTF DOES A DOG TALKING TO YOU OR A ALIEN STEALING YOUR GIRLFRIEND HAVE TO DO WITH POT?
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Canada is going through the same issues at the moment. I remember when I lived in London how laid back everyone was about that. I hope Brown and his idiotic policies (I follow UK politics a little) don't continue forward.



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the situation in england as it stands is that PM gordon brown (unelected, took office with his own agenda in mind) will press on with his efforts to reschedule ganj from a class C drug to a class B drug. it shouldn't be class anything.

In upgrading cannabis, he is expected to go against the expert opinion of his OWN advisors, who recommend cannabis remains class C.

Aside from the fact that the medical community contiues to be ignored, to further add salt to the wound, one of the reasons given for reclassification is tougher penalties for dealers.
well, as it stands under class C dealers get upto 14 yrs max, users get upto 2 yrs. whereas under class B dealers would still get 14 yrs, except me and you would get 5 years. THE CHANGE TARGETS THE USERS JUST AS MUCH AS DEALERS

Also, G.Brown says the reason for this is to send the message to youth that cannabis is dangerous and harmful 'just like alcohol' - despite this bein bollocks WHAT POSSIBLE JUSTIFICATION CAN THEY HAVE FOR ALLOWING ALCOHOL BUT NOT WEED

I am so detached and disilusioned with this government at the moment it truly is crap if Brown gets his way
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No fucking shite right?
Haha. You ever see the one where the kid builds a FUCKING cacoon of weed and then pops out all fat, bald, and living at home.

How stupid.
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Yeah, my spouse and I laughed pretty hard. We were stoned, and we looked at each other and laughed more. Why? Because she's in law school, smart as a whip and I've got my fair share of degrees as well. We're not fat and we sure as hell didn't pop out of a cocoon.

Have you noticed that ever since awareness of the benefits of MJ has started to rise and as the medical community has started supporting it, the government has stopped touting the health problems it supposedly causes? I remember they used to talk about brain damage or some stupid shit, and now they just try to propagate stereotypes. Instead of saying "hey kids, it's bad for your health, don't do it" like they used to now they are saying "hey kids, you won't be cool, don't do it"... Well, they've always tried to make it look uncool, but they haven't pushed the stereotype before.

Morons. Unfortunately they deceive the vast majority of US citizens. I blame the lack of focus on education in the US for that.

I'm rambling now, sorry.

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How stupid.
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I agree it's the public schooling that's the problem. The government makes the standards and controls what students learn about "drugs".

These kids don't have a fucking chance. And it's maddening to me. But luckily there has always been people in the world that question authority and the common practices that are involved with it.

People like you and me and every other member of sites like this one. There's hope yet.
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Haha. You ever see the one where the kid builds a FUCKING cacoon of weed and then pops out all fat, bald, and living at home.

How stupid.
Haha yes I have seen this! and here's what's fucked up even more, just like last week they passed the one where the kid lights his car on fire, then literally RIGHT after that one they passed one on how alcohol kills more ppl in this state then any other "drug" combined.

Now...I'm assuming they are throwing our MJ in their "drug" category, which if that's the case why do they want to increase penalties here for example, and why is alcohol still fucking legal when it KILLS??!!

every time I see that cacoon one I'm like damn that's a LOT of bud I want some of that!
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Im pritty sure I was reading an article or someones post on a form although I dont remember which one, but he made a good point:

-The government wants pot to be illegal because it's hard for them to make money off of it. Some people think that marijuana is illegal because it is 'bad' for you, if that was the case then ciggarettes and alcohol who be banned to, but they aren't because the government can make money from them.

- Its relitivly easy to grow and distribute marijuana on your own, tax free. The government would have no way to know your information or keep track of distributers and manufactors to force taxation. Thus.. they made it illegal

I don't know about you, but it sounds like a pritty good reason to me. There's probibly many more 'reasons' but this one sure made a lot of sence to me.
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