This is a really disturbing case, which I will admit, really distresses me. It is explained by a new vid released and put out for free distribution this week. I have uploaded it here:
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The bottom line is that Schapelle is imprisoned for 20 YEARS in Indonesia, on the basis of one of the most harrowing show trials of modern times. The video explains the background, detailing some of the many human rights abuses she has suffered, for a crime she did not commit.

She is still there today, years later, forgotten, with so many years still to serve in the living hell of an Indonesian prison hell. And they have continued to hurt her: blocking remission, and so on.

I guess what I am saying is that she could hardly be more desperate. She needs as many people as poss to help her. Please:
- do something form the list on the site some guy set up Help Schapelle Corby
- vote or comment on the YouTube vid: YouTube - THE SCHAPELLE CORBY NIGHTMARE
- tell the world about this: send the links out, get more people aware

Anything you think might help (the above are just ideas from a guy on the other side the world).

A clear victim of the 'war on drugs'. How many more?

spam, corby flavoured spam.

Are you serious? What sort of person are you?

This forum is headed 'Activism'. It is on cannabis.com. Shapelle Corby is a serious victim of the 'war on drugs' in anyone's language. It is a post in absolutely the right place. Remind me again why you are viewing posts on this website under the heading 'Activism'?

People like you should be put in a cell like hers for a day, to learn some humility. It beggers belief: this woman is likely to die there, yet you spitefully say 'spam'. Compassionless and soul-less: and brainwashed by the Aussie media.

Steve, you can't come in here and hurl insults at other members like you did at the end of your post. To be honest, I thought this was borderline spam too as it was your first post and it looked to be a "form" post that was almost trying to help get donations for SC. Just about any post with links to other sites can be considered spam so please try to follow forum rules (available for viewing in the lounge, feedback, and several other sections) while helping this girl out. I know there's a big debate on her role in this (victim or knew what she was doing) but either way the sentence is way too harsh and I'm sure many want to help her and some need to hear about the story but you also need to follow forum rules.

Also, someone already started a thread on this and I've been trying to figure out whether to keep yours which is borderline spam or to merge it with the other thread that was started first. I'm not sure if this falls under activism when it is just one person.

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unfortunately steve you lost me when you "spitefully" suggested that the member who made the comment should be locked away in a cell as well.....while at the same time saying how horrible the place is and how "you" are fighting to get someone OUT of that inhuman situation. But somehow it's ok for someone who's rude about your post....THEY should be there, right?

Hmmmm

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I said spitefully simply because I cannot get my head around why anyone would post a message like that, in response to my original, which was simply trying to get support for someone in truly desperate need. I could not see a motive at all.

And it's not just one person of course. I just came across the video, so there are obviously many others just as upset as I am, and rightly so. I just posted pointing out the new video.

I'm not confrontational, but I posted in the correct forum, on something appropriate and very disturbing, and the first response I got was one telling me I was a spammer! Would you not be a trifle piffed?

Anyhow... I don't want to tangent the real issue... which is helping this poor woman.

There are a lot of people in Aus who don't need to depend on the news reports and vids online to form an educated opinion on the nature of Ms Corby's character.

And as to what sort of a person I am, well I'm the 'once burnt, twice shy' variety of person and as far as I can tell, Schapelle is a victim of her own greed, narcissism and blind stupidity. And possibly a victim of her family as well.

If your post wasn't Corby spam and you're really a dude who just found this stuff on the net, please don't send the family any money.

sara lou

As I already said in this thread on the subject.
Schapelle Corby In Jail In Thailand 20 Yrs for Weed!!!

Can't do the time then don't do the crime.
Some countries have extreme sentences and that's why I wouldn't dream of breaking thier laws .
You go into another mans yard then you accept his rules or pay the price.

PS you may want to adjust your attitude if you want to win folks over.

No amount of attitude adjustment will change my mind however , I don't believe she did it out of any wish for better cannabis laws but simply for financial gain.
This is no idealist fighting the man , just some greedy smuggler.

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I have been following this case for a long long time, I have also donated to her legal fees. Whether it was stupidiity, a setup or anything of that likeness noone deserves to be thrown into some shithole country and its shithole judicial system. Im sure you have seen the signs some of those animals had at her trial (Kill Corby, Death Sentence for corby!) Now im sure this isint the general opinion of all indonesians, she should at the least be doing her time back in australia. It also seems Corby has more US supporters these days then Aussie ones, looks like the "Tabloid" press is even worse over there. There have been so many erroneus and bullshit stories pulled out by the australian media you dont know what is bullshit and what is truth. I stand behind the Original poster and your support for mis corby. I will continue to donate to legal fees and support her.

Schapelle's only risk of dying in Bali will be dying from self pity. She has a lot to be sorry for though, she would have done 10 years after her sentence was lightened to 15 (with remission bonuses for xmas, birthdays and good behaviour) but stupidity has already blown it back out to 20 years. If people want to give money to couriers who get snatched, there are other Australian's actually facing the death penalty in Indonesia.

ps Her trip of a life time back in 2004 was the 6th time she had visited Bali. She wasn't a noob.

Last point - The Balinese are Hindus rather than Muslims and the drug trade exists solely to service the Australian (and other) tourists who go there for cheap holidays.

Ganja is alien to the local culture, the local psychedelic is a fungus that goes nice with eggs.

All the things you have said I already know, thanks for the info though. Dosent her sister LIVE in bali and married to a bali citizen?? One thing im curious about, was her sister married to the man from Bali before or after she was caught?? So the 6 times im sure were to visit her sister who lived there right? I understand there are many people locked up in those type's of situations. I guess the whole HBO documentary thing really hit on a lot of emotions of people over here. The asshole that I personally think ruined it is that Used car salesmen(maybe TV salesman I cant think of it off hand) over in Australia, when he went public about the bribe money... im sure shit would have gone a lot better if he dident open his mouth. I understand being an Aussie yourself you are probably sick of hearing about the whole thing and tired of seeing her whine and moan on TV. However I could not imagine what the girl is going through. There was no fingerprint evidence on the bag, hell it could have been her brother or somthing that switched the bag. The bottomline is the judicial system is fucked up over there. Anyone whether they be australian, indonesian etc etc in my opinion deserves a fair trial and all evidence investigated to the fullest. I guess im sounding like the normal american wanting to push his views of freedom on other countries, but in this case its straight F'ed up, 20 years with no fingerprints... Bottom line to me is she was NOT given a fair trial, all the evidence was touched by 10 million cops there was evidence MISSING (bali cops prolly were grabbing handfulls for themselves to sell, the corrupt pieces of shit). I have even written our Australian embassy in washington and received a very positive letter in return. I'll stand behind Mis Corby until she receives a fair trial (impossible in indonesia), so I guess my monthly donations via paypal will be for the long haul!

Rob... I suspect you are wasting your time, as I am, with some of these people.

I see a woman in a hell hole for a barbaric 20 YEARS for a dope offence. I see her pain and suffering. It hurts.

I see a show trial: refusing to test the dope, burning it, and the rest.

I see the media smearing her family with often ludicrous stories, again and again and again. Drip drip drip brainwashing of a population.

I see a government doing nothing to help a citizen who has had her legal and human rights walked all over, both during the trial and after.


Some people are perfectly happy with this. They have no empathy with her suffering, and no compassion at all.

I am eternally grateful that I am not like that.

Just as I would be wasting my time debunking any more of your bullshit or responding to your moralising.

We each base our opinions on a set of experiences. Yours have lead you to believe Ms Corby is a helpless victim of circumstances beyond her control.

Mine lead me to believe that so long as she is in Bali and the family is busy scamming dollars online, Australia is a better place

Salamat Siang

Sara Lou

This is a good example of what has gone on. Here we have yet more totally and utterly unsubstantiated smears against her family.

No: I am being FAR too generous. It is a fact that the donation account is legally audited by a third party. I checked that personally before contributing myself.

So here we have false allegations of corruption against a family in desperate need of help. Ignoring the moral dimension, it is probably illegal. Frankly, if I were the family I would now be seeking the identity of the person above and taking appropriate legal action.

The mods might want to consider the above post, with respect to the forum being used as a platform for such an act. They also wish to consider the motive. Come on guys.

It is such a good example of all that is depressing that I took a screenshot of the page for my records here in England (indeed: I am not connected at with the family/etc in any way). Very very sad.

And meanwhile, the worst part of all... Shapelle continues to suffer in that squalid cell.

See how the focus has been re-directed here from the real issues? A splendid case in point.

The real issue is.

Do you believe in her innocence ? I don't

I know the penalty for smuggling in Europe because many years ago I got caught doing just that, I know the comparative sentence would be much higher in other countries but it would still be my choice to attempt it.
You go pulling on the tigers tail then sooner or later you're going to get bitten.

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No: it isn't as simple as that. Nothing like.

The real issue is should she be spending 20 YEARS in an Indonesian prison cell. No. That is absolutely grotesque, and disproportionate, whether she did it or not.

I don't think she did it for one second. But regardless, another massive issue: the nature of the show trial. A complete and utter breach of legal and human rights. Incredible.

Then everything that as followed, from the constant smears on her family, to the use of a sedated/drugged Schapelle Corby even this week for Indonesian photographic propaganda.

Simplifying it hides a raft or evils, which would have raised eyebrows even in the middle ages.

Here's a thought, how about you quit bashing everyone who doesn't believe what you believe huh?...

Indonesia is a very different place than the UK or the US...people don't have the same rights there as they do here...

Let it go...you already got yelled at once

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Sorry, but where am I bashing anyone? I am not: I simply state my opinion (and this is a forum, you know). Please read my words.

Right there, you were implying that, if you were the family, you would be inclined to take legal action against Sarah Louise's words for her stating that she doesn't believe what you believe...

Why are you so wrapped up in this when there's mass genocide going on in Sierra Lione and other African countries? Do you think that's fair? Do you want to rant about how the murderers are killing the residents of diamond mines and then selling the stolen "blood diamonds" on the open market?...

Buddy you just gotta chill out...

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That is clearly not 'bashing' anyone. It is simply stating what I would do if I were in someone else's shoes, as in normal conversation. That is all. I would defend myself against libel and slander, which is basically what I said.

There is absolutelty nothing wrong with stating that, here or anywhere else.

BTW: This is a cannabis forum, not one on Sierra Lione/etc.

Thank you, I'm quite aware of that

I'm going to bid you Au revoir

I have no more interest to try and calm you down

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We will have to agree to disagree on this one, I do believe it to be simply a question of guilt and motive.
I believe she is guilty and her motives were financial.

Neither you nor I have any right to tell another country what laws they may have nor what penalties to levy if someone breaks those laws.
We can disagree with them all we want.

Who decides what those rights should be ?
What right do we have to impose our beliefs on another ?
You presume to believe that a visitor should be afforded priveliges not given to residents, why should that be ? Just because you believe it ?

Please provide evidence that this is the case , media reports do not constitute evidence unless you can prove there is no bias.

You really need to read up on what was happening in the Middle ages, violence was a way to power and fueds were commonplace, war was widespread and the atrocities carried out make most modern wars look positively tame in comparison.

Even biological warfare dates from the 14th century.

CDC - Biological Warfare at the 1346 Siege of Caffa

And



I STILL THINK SHE'S GUILTY

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There is no point. How can I debate with someone who thinks it's ok to jail someone for 20 YEARS, for a dope offence, on the basis of a show trial which breaches the victim's legal and human rights every day? Simply, apparently, because of their 'beliefs'?

It's a ludicrous argument and it justifies nothing. What about Hitler's beliefs? EXACTLY the same argument could be used for non-intervention there, because we imposed our 'beliefs' on him.

I personally find 'beliefs' that are used to systematically abuse people and strip them of their human rights obscene. I genuinely cannot believe there are opinions out there to the opposite. But there are.

NO !
Not the Hitler card ..
Lame ,very very lame.

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