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View Poll Results: will the personal possession be decriminalized within the nesxt 5 to 7 years?
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yes there is more than 90% chance for it
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no way
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yes but excluding the growing part
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Sep-02-2008, 09:10
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i agree, pot will never be legal.
the whole idea about medical marijuana is really a joke, we all know it. there might be a few things marijuana can somewhat make you feel better about but its mainly for people who just want to get stoned (im in that group as a med mj patient) and the lists I see spam'd on here for pot helping all sorts of things is crazy. there is NO PROOF, just saying it 'might' help. well aspirin might help too.
sure we like to get stoned, so just admit it rather than perpetuate sum fantasy.
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I strongly disagree with you 100%. I know people who have no other alternative than to use cannabis. You apparently need to do a bit of reading, slick. It's no joke, it's making people's lives better.
and trust me, there's plenty of fucking proof. I personally know the proof, and I'm quite offended by your post. There's no might. It DOES help people, and obviously it doesn't help you, and you don't deserve to have a recommendation.
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Sep-02-2008, 09:59
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I'm 61............
I remember things that you kids only read about.
I remember 20 years for 2 seeds and a few particles of green.
I remember life for a single joint.
I remember Tulia.
I remember a raided house that had been "cleaned", yet the cops "found" 2 fat baggies of Mex brick weed (when the folks there were smoking only good homegrown from a friend  ).
I remember checking the table I rolled on for even the tiniest bit of green- cops looked for " particles" back then- didn't have to be a "smokable amount".
Medical cannabis wasn't even a concept when I started toking. There simply was no such thing. Now, 12 out of 50 states have some form of medical cannabis- and more MMJ bills are on the ballot. We need 1 more state to put us over the 1/4 mark- we will have it soon.
Remember, things ARE changing, slowly, but they are changing. Prohibition IS dying, but like most dinosaurs, it takes a while for it's tiny brain to get the message. How fast it dies is up to US! Yeah, I mean YOU! Get your tail moving and do something- the only way we "kill the beast" is for each of us to take up the responsibility to become an activist in whatever way we can. Send or show your doctor my list. Write a report on MMJ in college. Correct a misconception. Write a politician. Grow yer own. Write a letter to the editor. Vote! Even just using cannabis in a responsible way can be a form of activism!
Time for all of us to start "playing St. George"!
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Sep-03-2008, 14:42
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That's the most encouraging thing that I've heard in a longggg time.
In the words of Seth Rogen on Pineapple Express- "Let's face it, everyone likes smokin weed."
I guess it really is just a matter of time, but i've already sent my letter to the state rep, and any time anyone around me talks about it I tell them to just think of the money our government could make off of a marijuana tax.
I'm not a tax lover or anything but whatever it takes to legalize it man.
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Sep-03-2008, 20:45
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no way dude
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Sep-04-2008, 09:37
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no way dude
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The people who say it'll never happen are most likely those people sitting at home on the couch smoking pot..and think it'll never happen because they'd rather sit at home on the couch than get out and even throw the least bit of facts at people who argue marijuana is bad.
And just to prove how wrong you are, marijuana technically already is decriminalized.
Nebraska: Amount, 1 oz or less (first offense) penalty, civil citation incarceration, none fine, $300
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Sep-04-2008, 12:13
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Wow that's pretty unbelievable Storm Crow, thanks for the insight. And yes I agree, things ARE changing, slowly, but surely.
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Sep-04-2008, 12:36
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yea. I just hope I live to see it, I know I wont though.
Maybe my grandkids someday hahah
What do you all think about a straightforward approach, like door to door surveys to start out? Sounds stupid but its a start
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Sep-04-2008, 20:08
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What do you all think about a straightforward approach, like door to door surveys to start out? Sounds stupid but its a start
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half of the public is ill informed
and many of these very same people posses firearms!
i think best way is to work through media and mainstream outlets, i sometimes wonder, they keep sayin media is liberal n stuff, how come no major national media firm actively supports legalization or decriminalization... i mean, find one major talk show thats devoted to this and we may have a chance to lobby the public.
sure, in this regard, some steps have been taken so far and things have been said, but as u can guess educating a misinformed nation requires subliminal propaganda style of informing!
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Sep-04-2008, 23:25
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no way just look how fucked up the feds are.. we cant even have our own laws without having them intervene,but at the same time a lot of illegal shit is going down at the same time... i can definately see legalization will come in the next 10 to 20 years as the younger generations get into office and more research is done on cannabis itself... only time will tell
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Sep-05-2008, 13:01
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even though its just 12 states they include california, which is fucking huge, so huge that they grow more bud than all of canada.
its only 1/4 of the states but im willing to bet that its more than 1/3 the population.
plus we are talking about decrim? its already decrimmed in my state; new york. in ny its only a 100 dollar disorderly persons offence. they cannot detain you unless you were smoking it in public, and even then the most they can do is keep you for a few hours.
this effectivly makes speeding in excess of 10 miles over the speed limit a worse offence.
in practice unless you are walking around with a pound in your backpack or you REALLY mouth off to the cops they dont even ticket you or take your weed. i know people who got pulled over litterly while in the middle of smoking a blunt and the cops didnt even take their weed. that was in brooklyn though, i guess i should specify that i live in nyc where the cops dont even bother with weed. the high times office is within walking distance of my apartment.
even the most conservative estimates say it will be full blown legal in 25 years. think about it, 25 years ago they would toss you in jail in a heartbeat and possesion was a felony. nowadays even the most conservative states arent going to toss you in jail for a joint, theyll just arrest you and make you pay a huge fine (the real reason its not legal, its like a cash machine for local governments).
if the next presidential term doesnt end the federal interfierence with medical marijuana, then at the very least when more than half of the states get medical marijuana the feds will basicly HAVE to give up, when its obvious that the majority of US citizens want medical bud. it all hinges on lowering it to schedual II, where it becomes perscribable. remember that in california doctors only "recomend" that you use marijuana. if doctors were free to perscribe marijuana then wed have medical marijuana the entire country over instantly.
it all hinges on this election... if barak wins i could definatly see him quietly ending federal interfierence with medical marijuana , that will be like opening the flood gates. states will pass medical measures left and right. and thats if he doesnt reschedual it alltogether, i fear reschedualing wont happen untill more than half the states pass medical measures. pharm companies are going to fight the reschedualing TOOTH AND NAIL.
if mccain wins we are fucked, itll just be more of the same, although he might die and palin is from the only state in the country where weed is sorta legal, regaurdless of medical use. of course shes also a fundamental christian who is dumb as a stump.
i estimate well have medical marijuana in every state in 15 years and full blown legalization in 25.
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Sep-06-2008, 03:01
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man, i must admit, so far I am surprised with the amount of optimism and what people say on this topic... makes me even more hopeful than b4
Once I took economics class in college and my professor who was a very smart guy, said "Recession, is technically defined as 2 consecutive quarters of negative growth in GDP & economy, BUT, people keep worrying about it when it's not there yet and that could just help it happen"
this is kinda the karma and collective energy that people spread around
so i guess the positive side of it should work as well, the more people are optimist about it the more the "general mood" will be towards the target!
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MJ will be decriminalized one day.Just not soon enough for Most of us.
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