Do u think personal possession/consumption of marijuana (and not any other drugs) for recreational and/or medical purposes will be decriminalized/tolerated legally within the next 5 to 7 years? (i dont mean legalized, but turned into something like a civil matter such as traffic violation)

how about growing for the same purpose?

if u dont mind, please state your opinion along with reasons

between that, the stigmas and bass ackwards propaganda driven by the govt. NO!

Look at the lack of supporters for the two cannabis related bills introduced by Ron Paul / Barny Frank.

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Soon the medical states will overwhelm the feds and they wont have any choice. The fear is dissipating and the truth is becoming clear. A lot of work ahead but i predict within the next 5-10 years it will be legal with the exception of driving on it. And they will try to put a tax or ban on growing your own but that will eventually get overwhelmed and will have growing legal too. There is no stopping the truth. The ball is rolling.

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there are too many people making too much money off of cannabis being illegal for it to be realistic to see any legalization in the near future.

i love your idealistic view of the world! man, if it were only that easy! how are states overwhelming the feds? I dont see this! seems to me that states (cali) complain about it, but never really stand up to them. they could refuse to lend support in the raids. but doesnt happen...local and feds work together and the local guys just play the good cop roll in the good cop/ bad cop game. where is the fear waning and truth shining thru? media still reads the bust stories like its a evil scourge of the world! How is there no stopping the truth? history is written by the winners. and the ball has been rolling since the 60's and not sure its even picking up steam!

I honestly believe that the only way this will get done is if a state stands up and really challenges for states rights! It would have to get to an almost civil war type of stand off. The bigger issue here is states rights... overall, states dont get passed over an many issues other than MMJ. and I highly doubt the broke state of cali would risk losing federal dollars over MMJ. The US civil war was less about slavery and more about economic freedoms that states wanted. do you really think that a group of states is going to get together and use MMJ as a platform to fight back the feds?

how that sounded so negative for something I care for so much and want to come true. well, on the bright side if genies are real and I find one Ill take on for the team and use one of my wishes for us!

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It alread is decriminalized in Mississippi up to an oz. i believe. Im sure in other states too if MS did it. You will still get your stash takin and get a ticket but they wont arrest you just for having it.

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its a simple matter for states to keep their mouth shut, at least be happy they mumble somethin to feds.

states get money from the fed, biiiiiig money. so why would u complain in a tough manner? just to see your share cut down in comparison to other 49 who keep silent?

this is a matter that can only be solved by massive public pressure and can only be solved @ congress/executive order levels, not local. our problem is a FEDERAL agency called DEA, they simply just dont care about your state given rights in violation of their bread n butter federal rules

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I think it'll take a minimum of a Q of a century at least. Realistically though, i'd say 50 years or 100.. Hope i'm wrong, hope i'm wrong, but i'll still be blazing somehow, or inside a cell writing a book.

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Decriminalized? Yes.
Legal? Not a chance.

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i agree, pot will never be legal.

the whole idea about medical marijuana is really a joke, we all know it. there might be a few things marijuana can somewhat make you feel better about but its mainly for people who just want to get stoned (im in that group as a med mj patient) and the lists I see spam'd on here for pot helping all sorts of things is crazy. there is NO PROOF, just saying it 'might' help. well aspirin might help too.

sure we like to get stoned, so just admit it rather than perpetuate sum fantasy.

I have to almost totally disagree with the last post. MMJ DOES help people with certain conditions that other medication just can't (and without godawful side effects).

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It depends on how vicious the US president is at the time, I can see it going back and forth.

The reason I say that is pot already was decriminalized here in canada and would have stayed that way if marc emery hadn't done his "summer of legalization" rally thing.
He brought to much attention to it and pissed off the DEA, and now its back to being illegal.

If it were decriminalized again and everyone just acted cool about it I think it would stay for a while...in Canada anyways.

The Cheech and Chong stoners need to stay out of it. Getting it decriminalized or legal is ONLY going to happen for "medical" use. Responsible adults.

Too many bad stigmas and propanga, that and the drug trade is very profitable for the so called black market.

Shortly after 9/11 cops took a slightly more slanted view on all illegal drugs including cannabis, as most were told that terrorists gained most or all of their money from selling and producing drugs. Around here it's common knowledge for most insiders that local police departments and sheriffs take money from dope dealers. In turn they don't get busted as long as they pay the man and they're protected from rival dealers / gangs and outside authorities to a certain extent. Street cops are not allowed to go into known drug areas. They're told that certain areas are off limits and narcotics officers have these restricted areas under watch. Narcs mostly bust users and occasionally bust someone with weight who's trying to enter the established market or some other way pissed someone off.

As with anything illegal or taboo, a certain type of people are going to be attracted to it and control it. Self proclaimed bad asses if you'd like to say.

If everyone grew their own smoke and kept their illegal hobby a secret, going as far as to letting everyone believe you don't smoke or do anything remotely illegal. The cannabis world would be rastafied

Though most people I know who smoke abuse cannabis, daily smokers with no other problem other than being lazy, lack drive, and or low life trash. There are the few who don't abuse and smoke daily, to help them medically either suggested, prescribed or self medicated. From helping with muscle spasms to insomnia.


CYA, cover your ass. Keep your cannabis business classified. Rejoice when it is legal.

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it does whatever its told
it rubs the lotion on its skin else it gets the hose again

I only know one person like that?.....me.......but that "lack drive" is a shot thru the heart...

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it rubs the lotion on its skin
it does whatever its told
it rubs the lotion on its skin else it gets the hose again

I HIGHLY disagree with your statements and think that your thought process (and people like you) is going to do nothing but make this battle worse. You may not use it medically, but there truly are people out there that reap many medical benefits from the use of marijuana.

I think it's sad that you might actually consider yourself someone who supports marijuana, while in reality you don't. Your words show that you support marijuana because it's convenient for you and I think that is the wrong approach.


As far as my thoughts on it's criminal/legal status. I think it will be quite some time, but I think we might see some positive changes with marijuana. More and more I am seeing open-mindednes with marijuana.
Medicinal marijuana is obviously going to be the first step, then we might see more decriminalization to follow.

Only time will tell, however.

The most we can hope for within the next ten years is decriminalization, in severe states it would probably be a small fine and thats it. Maybe in ten years cultivation won't have YEARS attached to it. Maybe.

But I can see legalisation in twenty years. America has many bright, ambitious young citizens that will fill the places of the aged and corrupted politicians who are out of contact with average society... Slowly, the people who control our government will be replaced and over years our country can potentially have a completely different view on pretty much everything. Why would the same people pass a bill they denied not too many years earlier? Of course, if more people who leaned towards decriminalization gained power, eventually the bills we wanted to pass finally would.


But that would take a really long time...

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It's pretty sad the way our goverment is on this issue, if there main excuse is going to be drugs getting into underage hands, use the tax money made off it to do school drug testing or something, I am 30 now and worry it will never be legal in my lifetime and where i live it is very risky growing or possesing (manatee county florida) even more with kids.

I have a question for those of you who profit from growing marijuana... Do you really want it to be legalized?

My theory is that Obama will become president and decriminalize marijuana. Then everyone will be growing, and growing quality cannabis will no longer be like growing 24k gold. The world would be a better place if it was legalized, but to someone who makes a lot of money growing pounds and selling it for $50-100 an 8th, is that really what you want?

U r calling out dealers on the boards, thats just funny lol, no1 who is making money will ever put their public ip and address out here and literally "confess" to a felony!

i aint no dealer but let me make things clear for u


1. Obama MAY/MAY NOT become president, regardless his decriminalization idea is to cut the pen-time as penalty for small timers, thats as far as i know, most likely knowing the country's situation now and having biden as vice president, i highly doubt he will do anything regarding decriminalization any time soon

congress is a very different story though!

2. a person who grows pounds on pounds, and sells it for a living, doesnt need to be on these boards, they already know how to grow and are making money from it... they have their own sources!

same person, will not sell it on streets 8th by 8th or gr by gr!!! its a supply chain like retail market... growers give it to very few people on larger quantities and then they sell it to lower ranks on n on till we get to the end pothead who gets ripped for few grs of weed and smokes it all up

Coke sends an 18wheeler to sams club, your local Chinese restaurant goes and buys 10 bottled packs of it and some small vending machine business may do the same but get 30 packages... then each sells it at a price thats worth for them to the end consumer, restaurant usually sells it @ or above $1 and vending machine can sell it usually @ or below $1

3. and for that matter, a person who is growing pounds, doesnt mind switching the substance for his money, he is "most likely" a person with criminal record.