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Old Sep-02-2007, 01:06
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Question Mycorrhiza

I was in a nice store the other day a noticed they had a bag of Mycorrhiza. When i used to work in a tree farm we always knew about it. However, it was very specific to the tree. I remember one time I took a caterpillar tractor out and very carefully lifted the top 4" of soil up so it could be loaded up and transferred to another location so they would be more able to grow the same trees we were growing. It was all about the mycorrhiza. Apparently it is in the top 4' of the soil.
My question now is,and I should have asked those experts then. Is what do you think of using it?
I am thinking about it. However if the mycorrhiza is specific to a redwood tree, as this one was, how do you know what kind of mycorrhiza the stores sell in their bags? Are there mycorrhiza specific to cannabis and what are there brands?
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wth? This is way out of my leage.
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Mychcorrhiza is a fungus as I understand it that has a symbotic relationship between roots and the soil and the nutrients that are picked up. Anyone? There must be some soil expert out there for this one.
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Something to think about though! I would like to hear from the real experts here on this question.
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There are both specific and general use myco inoculants- generally, when you're using specifics, you're recreating a symbiotic relationship that the cultivar has a known relationship w/, but isn't native to the cultivar's location.

The general purpose mycos are an unspecific mix of endo&ecto sp. that are common worldwide in healthy soil- sterilization for poting mix destroys them, so you have to re-introduce. Promix actually markets a formulation that's got myco spores mixed right into the media, so it's pretty much live as soon as you water it.

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I already was aware of specific mychocorrhiza. Well that cool! I know that the mychocorrhiza has a symbiotic realization. I know when we were inoculating the soil for a specific tree we wold use the specific Mychorrhiza. It had to be very specific. What we were doing is trying to grow trees where they were not usually grown, thats why I was driving a driving a cat around in a field with a lifting bar to bring up the top soil. 4" to bring up the Mychorrhiz. These were so specific to the tree. To transfer the mychorrhiz to another location. Specific to this tree,
So still the question I have is the mychorrhiz in a grow store specific to our plant? Otherwise it seems a waste of money!
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I believe he's saying there are two kinds....and the one in most potting soils is the "general purpose". Logically I would think if you put in something specific to a certain type of plant you'd want to be listing it on the bag wouldn't you? so i think he did answer your question.....i THINK..
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So still the question I have is the mychorrhiz in a grow store specific to our plant?
It's as specific as it needs to be- and one of the cheapest things you can use to optimize a plant. $ 10 worth of myco will do bales and bales and bales of soiless mix/ potting soil.

Nobody's gonna put " marijuana specific" on packaging- when you do, it becomes illegal. Hell, even Advanced publishes feeding schedules for melons- who's gonna spend $700 ( 2+ series, 40 g res, 8 week cycle) to grow a melon?
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Nobody's gonna put " marijuana specific" on packaging- when you do, it becomes illegal. Hell, even Advanced publishes feeding schedules for melons- who's gonna spend $700 ( 2+ series, 40 g res, 8 week cycle) to grow a melon?
lol.....no wonder I can't find it at Wallyword.....
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My question has indeed been answered! tx Rhizome!
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Maybe tomato growers in the valley would?
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I am actually a complete noob FYI, BUT i was at the local Chronic shop the other day and the owner actually percibed my plant this very fungi, i just administered it about a day ago so i will lwt u all kno if it brings my plant back to life.
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Safe on Seedlings?

Is this myco-fungi safe to use on seedlings 1-2 weeks old, or is it in the same realm as nutes?
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I just this week am working on an experiment using long-fibre coco inoculated with Myco-Stim and Serenade as a cloning medium. They've been in for a little over a week with no mortality so far out of about 30 cuts. I did a batch alongside using the rapidrooters as a control, since it is easier to pull them out and check for roots. So far I am hopeful. Updates to come.
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Weedhound, I think:

long-fibre coco
The long fibers from coconut husk, cleaned, dried and chopped up.

inoculated
It means to put some molecules where they will reproduce, triggering an increase in immunity to diseases.

Myco-Stim
A fungus that helps root growth.

Serenade
Helps stop fungus and bacteria. Wait, I must be wrong somewhere. No sense adding a fungus and anti-fungus. Where am I screwing up stinky?

cloning medium
Whatever stuff you use to stick your cuttings in while they root.
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Serenade is Bacillus subtilis and I added it in hopes of stopping harmful fungus- we'll see if there's any point to it.
Local temps are peaking in the low 90s today and I lost a couple to mold yesterday- I'm having terrible temp control problems.
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Fox Farms makes a wonderful, mild potting soil called 'Happy Frog', that is perfect for seedlings, it also has plenty of mycorrhiza and humic acid in it ... but, what I really like, they also make Happy Frog Soil Amendment, which is the straight mycorrhiza, that is to be added to whatever soil you already use (the residue recovered from the base of rotting trees, etc in the forest, it says) ... my babies love the stuff ... for adult plants, I'm using two parts FF Ocean Forest, one part Happy Frog Soil Amendment, and a 1/2 part perlite ...
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Local temps are peaking in the low 90s today and I lost a couple to mold yesterday- I'm having terrible temp control problems.
I'm real sorry to hear that. In my humble opinion temp problems are the worst kind of problems.
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So if I understand correctly what's going on here, we only use mycorrhiza to inocuate soil. This has nothing to do with hydro, or am I just out of it?
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the hydro store down the street sells the mycorrhiza in pill form and the box says to put in soil about 1/4" below clone/seed.1 per plant
their 10 bucks for a box of 40 i think im goin to get a box and see how good they work, say real benificial for root
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OP- I don't like the OGM type mycos for hydro, as the carrier for the bios is vermiculite- makes a god-awful mess.

Have a look @ a GH product called " SubCulture".
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