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Old Aug-22-2008, 20:59
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neutered male plants?

ok. this may sound a bit odd but imma throw it out there

back in my motherland I remember in my first years of smokin to meet with some badass guy who grew his own stuff and despite popularity of hash over marijuana would use mj for his consumption on regular basis.

but, here is the but:

the 1st time me and my friends smoked from his stash, 1 of us kinda went into a coma and actually had to get medical help

then a few times after this happened he showed us the plant he had, it had very dark green color and he said it was a "neutered male plant" that he had actually worked on and as he called "he trained it rigorously" to make the plant like that

now for the high i can tell it was basically the strongest high i have ever gotten in my life and it was heavily sativa but stoned me quite hard as well.

Now, i have had no way to verify such story's truth, it could have been a normal feminized heavily sativa strain and he had lied, but he had no reason to do so... i just wanna know if this is nearly possible to be a true tale, having a neutered and very potent male plant, that has been trained for a few years?

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Haha

I don't know WHAT you just said... or what the HELL you are talking about....
but pass that shit to the left

Your friend hit it and went into a coma? That is capital R-E-diculous
By neutered male plant... do you mean he plucked all his nuts off?

And trained, as in liiiike... he can do tricks and stuff?
Sorry, shit's giving me the giggles...

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Old Aug-23-2008, 00:23
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lol all the facts on my side are true, that fool got knocked the f out and wouldnt come to life until we took him to hospital and there in that land aint no1 was gonna arrest us for it so it was fine for us


well as for neutered, thats the termthe guy used and i suppose (pardon my knowledge, it sucks im just learning round the clock here :P) it is a male plant that doesnt produce seeds or doesnt pollinate other females, and by "training" im just quoting what he said and really have no idea what would the training be, perhaps cuttin the balls off lol!

thats the whole reason im asking,

all i know is that it was some really strong shit, i mean we were heavy smokers back then and this was just a nuclear one!

the guy was trusted enough for me not to lie to me or give me something mixed or laced, he was close family of my buddy and a very cool guy, he literally "hated" other drugs! and he exactly said this is "a neutered boy"

i have no idea what that meant and i hardly got to see the guy again, we were his guests in another town 4 a while. and months after that i left for US.

and thus this remains a myth/mystry for me and im so willing to find out if such thing is possible to do or he was just BSin us... altho i highly doubt he was BSin the plant looked wicked and the pictures he had of flowering time dont really match closely to any usual femenized plant profile that i have seen on the net. or maybe this is all my english problem and actually what he had/meant was a femenized plant thru genetics or somethin...

well, i know this all sounds like rubbish to most of u out there. but a lil help is appreciated if u could illuminate me on this subject :P
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"Back in my Motherland..."?

Two folks I personally would never quote...
...the first being your 'friend' (a neutered male is a stick with a few leaves)
Likely was something he sprayed on the leaves, were it really a male.

The second...would have to include a cowardly nazi war criminal, unable to face the punishment about to be handed him by the war crimes trial, for his role in the genocide. (he took his own life with cyanide)
Either you've learned some seriously flawed, revisionist bullshit, or you believe his rhetoric and doctrine.
Either way...in honoring his memory with quotes, you insult many of us who are not motivated to commit racial persecution or genocide.

They were both a good source for bad information.
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"Back in my Motherland..."?

Either way...in honoring his memory with quotes, you insult many of us who are not motivated to commit racial persecution or genocide.

They were both a good source for bad information.
You really lost me.. even if it was a quote I do not find this offensive. I thought he was just using a popular 'cliche' phrase.

There are more people that use "back in my motherland" than nazi's. Honestly, you need to take a chill pill. Or maybe you are smoked out and that's the reason for the post.

Either way give the guy a break; he didn't mean anything by it. You were the one to take it out of context.


Back to FlyingImam.... Males can't produce the trichs in concentration like a female can. In my personal opinion I SERIOUSLY!!!! SERIOUSLY!!! doubt you got comatose high off of a male plant.
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Whatever...I answered his question, no?

I wouldn't have said anything about the motherland statement, were it not for the Hermann Göring statement (quote) in his sig.
Referenced together I find it offensive. But, I'm just as ok with writing what I wrote, as those are that continue to advance the nazi rhetoric.
To acuse me of taking the writings from his/her own post out of context is humorous. It's in green and black. Do I lose my right to free speech, just because the statements are in his sig, or am I supposed to sit back and witness the hate and racism continue uncontested?
Hardly likely. This is America, right? Did I say Flying Imam couldn't write what's there? No. I pointed out that I wouldn't, and why.

Had I seen his/her post earlier in the political forum regarding Biden's pick, I would have addressed this there. (that's the best appology I'll offer)

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Whatever...I answered his question, no?

I wouldn't have said anything about the motherland statement, were it not for the Hermann Göring statement (quote) in his sig.
You did but you felt the need to throw in a quick jab in the process. I'm not sure what the purpose of this was as he asked a legitimate question and this was posted in the grow forum. Not the activisim forum or political forum.

In addition to this words are words and should not matter who has said them if they are true:

Whether it is a democracy or a fascist dictatorship or a Parliament or a Communist dictatorship, the people can always B brought 2 the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All U have 2 do is tell them they R being attacked & denounce the pacifists 4 lack of patriotism & exposing the country 2 danger. It works the same way in any country.

Look at our current international situation in the United States... do you not see any parallels?

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Referenced together I find it offensive. But, I'm just as ok with writing what I wrote, as those are that continue to advance the nazi rhetoric.
Boy are you way out there? You are accusing him of Nazi rhetoric based on WHO said it, not by the meaning behind the words that they've said. There are wise men all across the globe who say things that are VERY much true. Not all of these people are the virtuous champions you would want them to be; but it doesn't change the meaning behind what they say.

If you found offense with this again, this was a problem on your own part not the OP. People have labeled me as a conservative in the politics forums and take any oppurtunity to take a jab at me. Yet here I am able to see clear as day what his signature actually means.

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To acuse me of taking the writings from his/her own post out of context is humorous. It's in green and black. Do I lose my right to free speech, just because the statements are in his sig, or am I supposed to sit back and witness the hate and racism continue uncontested?
You did take it out of context. You are merely looking at the source of the quote and not the quote itself. You didn't lose the right to free speech just as you also haven't lost the right to be in the wrong. Please point out the EXACT racism and hate that was exemplified by him.

You are really grasping at straws here, but feel free to go for it.


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Hardly likely. This is America, right? Did I say Flying Imam couldn't write what's there? No. I pointed out that I wouldn't, and why.
No but when you say something that doesn't make any sense you can't expect people to Point it back out to you. Just as you say, this is America right?

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A pathetic apology at best and one that no one here asked for but thank you for the farce of an effort.

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Göring was also his sole heir.
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"“A single death is a tragedy, are million deaths is a statistic.” - Joseph Stalin

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Do you need me to go on and on? While these are all bad people they have admittingly at one time in their life have said things that are VERY true.

Again, you jumping on FlyingImam is unfounded. You took it out of context and this is your own fault, not his.
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Rusty Trichome.. just so you know. It's not that I don't understand what you're trying to say. It's that not EVERYTHING that comes from a "negative" source is negative. It's perception and how you view it.

The quote in question simply contained nothing bad in it itself. Merely the person who was quoted was bad.

And btw, I agree I would never quote his friend. Sounds like he's high on some good shizz if he thinks that male plant is getting him high (flyingimam's friend that is).
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I vote hermie with nanner's plucked. Slight stress could cause a significant amount of resin production, (on top of it already being over-ripe and dank to the max) do to the plant defending itself from attacking bugs or a racist commi. plucking hermaphrodite plant parts.

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Again, you jumping on FlyingImam is unfounded. You took it out of context and this is your own fault, not his.
I called a spade a spade. You want to rant? Be my guest...I do it often.
Each of our stances in this matter are subjective.
But since your morals and my morals are obviously on a different course...frankly I really don't give a shit what you think I should and should not be offended by. I'm not all that fond of political correctness, as it really relies on the drgradation of American values, traditions and religious beliefs, to recognize deviant morals as being acceptable. IMHO...YOU are the one "way out there".

Either way...it doesn't affect my grow, which is why I'm here in the first place. I do not come here to be insulted, offended or indoctrinated. Nor do I come here to practice my political dexterity. I come here because this site has been the best example of a legitimate Medical Cannabis information source available at this time.

Do you really find it acceptable to allow nazi bullshit, Islamo-facist rantings, false-prophet musings..., in a medical cannabis forum that caters folks from 18ish to 70ish? Obviously, I don't think it's appropriate.
Do you really believe the bullshit comparison between the quote and US policy? Gee...sounds to me like that quote is exactly how the democrats teach their lackeys to degrade conservative values, and twist facts to suit their agenda.

This is short-sighted, and likely a good way to lose all credibility from those that are a bit more mature, seeking info on their meds. You seem to want to turn this into an immature 'anything goes' playground...I'm fighting to keep it from becoming just that.

I've mentioned this before...it still stands...
If you want to discuss the facts of politics, let's do it in the right forum. I'll never back away from good political discourse with someone that's ready for the challenge.
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I called a spade a spade. You want to rant? Be my guest...I do it often.
It's not a rant, but rather this was a grow forum. He posted a question but rather than focus on the question you put your energy into something that was irrelevant. Will you make it a habit to do that often as well?

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You're right it is, and because it is subjective you don't have to comment on something else such as his quote. As I said before this is the grow forum, not any other social forum.

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For someone who's not offended you sure seem on the attack here. I'm glad you don't give a shit what I think. Obviously you not caring is allowing for some true colors to bleed through here. Good to see.

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ROFL!!! Have you seen some of my posts? What do *I* of all people have to do with political correctness. HAHA

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Really? You are the one trying to enforce that FlyingImam is spreading hate and racism through his quote. This would seem to fall under being politically correct would it not? Yet you are not fond of political correctness?

Well ok, you lost me on that one. If you like to contradict yourself in one breath then by all means be my guest.

Again, the words that were quoted were not bad in themselves. You can't look beyond the name. Anything can be made good if it's said by the right person. If Winston Churchill had said that you'd be singing a different tune.

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Hrm, you're here for growing but you berate people based on their signature. Yes, I see the relation between growing and bashing people. Thank you for the insight </sarcasm>

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which is why I'm here in the first place. I do not come here to be insulted, offended or indoctrinated. Nor do I come here to practice my political dexterity.
You could've fooled me. Here you are taking a quote out of context, trying to force your own skewed view of that quote onto the rest of us. If you came here to talk about grows then talk about grows and leave it at that. Otherwise if you continue to do this you're just practiciing hypocrisy. Which if you want to do that then go for it.

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You're right.. it does. Thank god that we don't come here for people's signatures that talk about how regardless of what type of government you have that you can gather the people back under you through the use of fear tactics; which holds no racism in it's words. I'm so grateful that's not why I come here; what a crappy forum that would be. </sarcasm>

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Actually yes... I do find it acceptable. Again maybe your posts are better suited for the political forum. I don't believe flyingimam is a nazy, islamo-facist, or false prophet. I'm not so blinded by his quote that I can't see beyond the obvious.

Want to know what the obvious is? IT IS JUST A QUOTE AND CONTAINS NO RACISM IN IT!!

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Do you really believe the bullshit comparison between the quote and US policy? Gee...sounds to me like that quote is exactly how the democrats teach their lackeys to degrade conservative values, and twist facts to suit their agenda.
And here you are trying to poke fun of whatever affiliation you may think I am. I am pragmatic, leaning admittingly a bit to the right. Due to your lack of understanding throughout this entire thread I'm fairly positive you don't know what that means. So here is the definition for you:

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The whole reason for bringing up people would like to label me conservative was to point out the fact that here I am, someone that everyone wants to label conservative in the politics forum, yet I'm defending this guy on what would seemingly be a liberal stance.

Want to know why? Because your attack was unjustified. You saw the affiliation of the quote and decided it would be a nice gesture to berate the guy for no reason. All he asked was a grow question.

Guess what, if you didn't like what was in his quote you could've easily bitten your tongue, or given him the answer about his grow and then contacted a mod about it.


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This is short-sighted, and likely a good way to lose all credibility from those that are a bit more mature, seeking info on their meds. You seem to want to turn this into an immature 'anything goes' playground...I'm fighting to keep it from becoming just that.
I'm not looking to gain or lose credibility. Honestly you look like a fool and you're fighting a battle that you've already lost.

No Racism, No Personal Attacks on Others and or Co-Ops/Dispensaries, No threats of violence and/or the Like

You attacked him, but there was no actual racism in his post or in his signature. Again, you are the one in the wrong.

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If you want to discuss the facts of politics, let's do it in the right forum. I'll never back away from good political discourse with someone that's ready for the challenge.
You're more than welcome to come into the politics forum. You're the one I never see in there. You bring this up as if this is some sort of grand master challenge when honestly I could care less, but if you bring up a topic that interests me in the politics forum you can be sure, as everyone who hates me in there can attest to, I will be there to disprove or agree with whatever points you bring up.

There is a difference between debating and discussing your opinion. I rarely discuss just my opinion, majority of my rebuttals are based on fact.... Fact is you jumped the gun.. you attacked this poor guy for no reason other than he quoted a Nazi.

No offense to you Rusty Trichome, but judging from these two posts I'm pretty sure you wouldn't last too long in the politics forum. I hope you're able to gather your thoughts in a more concise and organized manner that contains actual relevant information.

So one last time Rusty. Show me EXACTLYwhere the WORDS FlyingImam used are racist.
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And rusty... did you even bother reading the last line in his quote?

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Nowadays I just sit back as a silent spectator of politics & watch

In relation to his Nazi quote he posted this. Because he see's similarities between what's currently going on and what Hermann Göring said. There is no fault in that.

If you want to disprove him then do it the right way, in the politics forum and actually DISPROVE him... don't berate him. There is no actual hate posted in his signature.
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Bueller?..... Bueller?.....

What was the question? Oh yeah...

I have never heard of it before, but that plucked Hermi theory sounds pretty cool to me. Can major stress and "nanner management" increase resin production that much?

Either way, this thread will probably be closed in a couple... so I wanted to second that suggestion

Oh, and I agree... I see no racism in that statement whatsoever. I do not judge a person by their words, so much as their actions. Therefore, had I not known who originally spoke those words... I would have to agree with the statement. Since I do not judge people solely by their words, I find it hard to judge another person simply based on their reiteration of those words. I also noticed the sentence that followed regarding being a political spectator. It showed that he understood that we need to learn from history... not run from it. Good people do bad things... bad people do good things.... words never killed anyone.

To me... it's like getting all worked up for someone having the middle name "Hussein."
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