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May-31-2005, 15:55
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Treetop grafting
has anyone ever heard of grafting on to treetops bieng succesfully done? that would eliminate many problems including watering and deer,rabbits, people ect...
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Jun-01-2005, 14:59
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Grafting? You mean taking a cutting from a pot plant and make it grow on a different plant, like a tree in the forest? No it does not work that way.
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Jun-01-2005, 17:24
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well ive heard of the hops, cannabis graft being done before so I dont see why it wouldnt be possible especially if the two stems are similar in structure. perhaps it just needs to be done right. why not use mimosa hostilis for thc above and dmt below kinda like tomatoes above and potatoes underground.
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Jun-01-2005, 18:26
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Pot is a resin producing plant. It has different nutrient requirements and cell structure then most any tree I can think of. You don't even graft pot plants to make crosses you cross pollen.
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Jun-01-2005, 19:07
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well yes I know how to cross pollinate and make new strains. but dont forget pot has a very woody stem with fibers that are very very strong. Henry Ford used to make hemp fiber car bodies that he could bash a hammer off and the thing would be unscathed. try that with fiberglass. hemp fiber paper has waaay more longevity than our modern paper. I see what you are saying about the nutes though.
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Jun-01-2005, 19:14
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maybe I will try test grafting to different kinds of small trees for tests. im not trying to say it can be done or anything but if it worked somehow it would be pretty different than most methods. by the way Zandor those are some damn huge monsters that you grow there. could a waterfarm bucket be big enough to grow monsters like that?
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I use 5 gallon buckets with lava rock......grow rocks are not strong enough and the plants top over.
I am all for anybody trying something different. Good luck and keep me informed will ya.
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another question
lets go further, a tree is chillin and you want to cut a branch high up, then splice a marijauna plant with the cut. two cuts at 120 degrees and place the cuts flush together. taping together with that green plant tape. What plant is the most similar to marijauna. Also Can you splice like a rose onto a hydro plant in veg. Using the same method described above. Why you ask? Because im weird. That simple.
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Don't forget pictures, I can't wait to see them either.
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ok I will line up a couple guinea pigs and give it a shot. they will be dedicated to the name of science hehe. if anyone else can spare a cutting or two and give it a try that would be cool.
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in like sin
This could be a life long project for science and the bud smokers of the future. I feel like a scientest sometimes. But both methods im going to try. My uncle splice grapefruit and lemons this way.(by graphting) There's alwayse problems though. Special care i.e. Feeding the main plant different nutes, maybe using a clonex solution for better fusion of the stems. Only vigorous strains should be used. And Probably need fat ass stems on the bud, like 1/2 inch maybe
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Jun-11-2005, 01:10
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lol wierd i had your same idea the other day ,what plant is closest to mj anyway?
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Tomatoes
I have no clue as to grafting, but I can tell you that we have a tomatoe plant in the same res as our girl and the tomatoe plant has tripled in size within 7 days and thriving beautifully. We've been discussing moving her because she is absolutely taking over. My point, our tomatoe has thrived with a ph of 5.2-6.2 and ppm of 1330-1350. It seems to tollerate and agree with both the nut requirments and the ph. I can post a pic, if you would like.
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I heard that the closest plant to mj is the hops plant. You know the one they make beer with. Unfortunatley thats not a tree. so that sux.
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Henry Ford
used soybeans to make that dent proof car body your refering to
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Jun-21-2005, 22:58
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actually it was a hemp fiber body and it was 10 times as strong as steel
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Hey whilst you are busy trying to graft a rose plant that gets you stoned it might help if you placed a mirror right on the graft spot to insure the proper light.
Dont fail this endeavor simply cuz you didnt have enuff mirrors
Oh keep one thing in mind...
the HOST plant will pass any genome changes to the parasite...so if youre chopping a MJ stem and binding it to another tree, it will become like the tree.
Try a pine tree....they produce sap and resin and hold mirrors really well.
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or maybe if you bend the thing like you are squashing it into the ground that will help.
"the HOST plant will pass any genome changes to the parasite...so if youre chopping a MJ stem and binding it to another tree, it will become like the tree."
sorry but plants dont pass traits only water and nutes if that were the case the hops thing would be done more often
the idea of treetop grafting is to keep plants away from animals and humans and let the tree itself do the watering naturally
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i want to see some photos
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Grafting hops and cannabis is possible, so why trying other mixes it won't work. In the dicotyledon's family, there is only cannabis and hops. So you've got to graft hops onto a cannabis stem. It will produce hops fruits with THC. There are other methods also that i don't know, but this one works, if the 2 plants are old the same.
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it's been tried years ago, according to mel & ed's book and it doesn't work. if it did don't ya think we'd all be growing thc-infused hops?
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Only to speak about what we know, i'm going to realise it. I've got the canna seeds, i know where to purchase hops seeds, they grow the same, and i keep informed, with pics. All in hydro...
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del is right, it`s been done, just think about it, graft a lemon branch onto an orange tree, both citrus family, and that branch will grow lemons only, not orange flavoured lemons. the same holds to hops and cannabis, the hop will be a hop with no thc
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graftings for cactus
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hello harmonicminor, , i have been watching this thread and have been fasinated by it, i done some experiments about 6 years ago, i tried to do just what you are disscussing, my atempt failed miserabley, however i wernt to be put off and tried the same on loads of different plants, i never tried it with a hop plant, but i did try it with various grapevine strains, i never managed to get the cannabis plant to flower or grow very much but i did keep it alive for the whole season. i might be a littel late as my grape vines are full of grape but i am gonna take some cuttings from my weed and graft them on a couple of my vines to show you how i did it,........ i hope you dont mind, hey i failed trying this, but i am so so convinced that it can be done with the correct plant i just thought you might like to see how far i get doing it, it might not work ,as like i say my grape vines are loaded...... just thought it worth a try again....
............. peace mate ......... happy ...................
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