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Old Mar-18-2006, 23:13
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flowering from the start???

what happens if u start a sprout with 12/12 lighting??
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Old Mar-18-2006, 23:35
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It finishes the size it would be at one month at 24/7 I would think.
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It'd be about 1ft if it did good but it would yeild very small... Give it at least 2 weeks of 14/10 if possible.
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Old Mar-20-2006, 04:00
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I've seen a picture in a post on overgrow of a plant that was on 12/12 from the start, it looked like it yielded a single bowl, thats about it. it was cool looking though.
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Old Mar-20-2006, 10:41
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If you start a regular seed with twelve hours of light that will surely hinder it's growth. It's best to keep plants in wedge for at least a month. However, some powerful sativas like Neville's Haze are advised to be sprouted that way, because it grows such a fast rate that it will overgrow smaller growrooms. But if you don't have one of these "nuclear-plants", let the little fellas grow for a while before budding.
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I grew a haze strain simular to nevilles and it finshed after 88 days at 1 foot tall on average.
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Well, with the lights and pots, it surely fills a wardrobe. Probably won't yield as much as an indica, but sativa is the noble way to get high. True growers grow for themselves and not for sale, so they value small plants, small grow spaces and top quality.
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ok thanks.. only wanted to kno what happened if i grew a plant with just the flowering cycle.. constant 12/12 lighting throughout all its stages.. i fugured u could trick the plant, condition it to think its at 18/6.. cus it lacks the reasoning to think otherwise.. if it flowers upon growth without considering the situation of things, would u then think it was because the plant is in a sense 'programmed' to the environment, rather than adapt??

i was thinkin of what would happen starting a 12/12.. then movin from to 6/6.. apparently that can't be done..
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Old Mar-21-2006, 11:26
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Through evolution, all we earthlings - plants, animals and humans - were designed to live at a 24 hour lifecycle. This function is encoded in our DNA, that's why you can't grow your plants the way you wanted. The plant compares the light period to this 24 and will not think it's normal, it will think that it's been sprouted very late in autumn and starts growing flowers at once. Plants can adapt to different enviroments, but they can't rewrite their genetic code.

And if you light her with 6/6, she'll think: "The sun rises and sets in six hours?! WHAT THE FUCK IS GOING ON???"
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sheist.. it really deppends on the strain and the gentics...

some plants will do fine under those conditions..
What does a healthy 2 week old plant look like?


one of these plants on the thread above was flowered when it was 15-17 days old.. started from seed...

And it turned out awesome..

SOme plants will not flower even when they are put to 12/12 if they are not mature.. meaning they don't have pre-sex or alternating nodes...

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If you have the resources, it is very fun to experiment wth the plants.. both seeds and clones...
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sorry whats alternating nodes?
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alternate nodes is when the leaves don't grow symetrically from the stem. It appears generally after min 3 weeks of good veg. I tried once to grow a plant from seed under 12/12, it flowered after 3 weeks an it was 2.5 inches tall. In the end it was 1 foot. Hum, single cola, no sog plant, lol.
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alternate nodes is when the leaves don't grow symetrically from the stem. It appears generally after min 3 weeks of good veg. I tried once to grow a plant from seed under 12/12, it flowered after 3 weeks an it was 2.5 inches tall. In the end it was 1 foot. Hum, single cola, no sog plant, lol.
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I wanna kno what the yield is on the 15dayer..
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This past summer I experimented in a way similar to this theory. I sprouted two bagseeds and stuck them outdoors at the end of June and let them have a go at it outside. I pretty much ignored them except for watering them with all my outdoor potted plants. Only nutes they got was some VF-11 probably 3 times total. Final plant was a single stem around 10" with one nice size kola. Both ended up being female and produced about 2g dry each. Somehow they ended up looking and smelling extremely chronic considering they had no time to veg, so I chopped the bud and left a few straggling bud sites at the bottom with teeny tiny leaves. I've got them under some cfls, gave them some real nutes, and they seem to be coming back to life nicely. I only decided to reveg them because I want to know how much more amazing they can be if I took care of them.

But to answer your question, yes, you can flower from seed. Of course the buds will only be produced according to how many leaves it has to photosynthesize. Let it veg even a week and you'll see over twice the yield just because of more photosynthesizing capability.
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Im really curious if anyone has tried a 6/6 cycle, im not planning on doing it that way but what a deformed plant that would turn out to be..
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what a deformed plant that would turn out to be..
Likely scraggly, with only single-bladed leaves, not healthy fans. I've seen examples of plants developing that growth habit under extreme photoperiod stress.
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