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    Plants won't stop flowering

    I've re-vegged several times before, but I don't understand what's happening with my latest attempt. I have 2 NLxBB in dirt that I flowered and am now trying to get them to revert back to the vegetative state. It's been my experience that after about 2 weeks of 18/6 light, plants usually start showing new vegetative growth. Well it's been a little over 2 months now, and they look dormant, except they keep producing buds. How is this possible? Nearly all the fan leaves have died, but buds are coming on strong. There's a whole bunch of brand new white hairs today. I am using 3 CFL's as light, but they are 2700K. I know this is wrong for optimum veg growth, but that shouldn't matter. No matter what color the light is, they should revert back. What is going on?
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    Take em all the way to 24/0. I've had plants take a couple months to re-veg even under that. Hit them with a shot of superthrive at a couple drops per gallon of food. The other reason plants just keep on flowering is the AGE of the cut (the from-seed age) but in your case I highly doubt that plays into it. My OGKush 'abusive' throws significant pistils under 24h light- since I store males in the same closet, I get OGK x ??? crosses making fully healthy seeds on the regular. haha ask Chron, he's about to yank some nice seeds off his OGK!
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    Cool, I will give that a try. How convenient. I have some extra PHd water with SuperThrive that I just got done mixing up for transplanting and seed starting. I just have not ever heard of plants taking this long. Nice to know I'm not alone.
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    I agree with Foxy, I generally don't experience problems when I switch from flowering to continuous light for a week or two. Also, many of the times that I've done this, I was transplanting and added a good bit of rooting hormone to the new soil. Sometimes I didn't even need the continuous light, but was able to switch back to 18/6 immediately and got new (and vigorous) growth after one week or less.

    By the way, is SuperThrive still on the market? I remember being able to find it at Home Depot at one time, but can't seem to find it at any of the major retail chains anymore.
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    A plant that produces endless bud!? Sounds like you've found the golden ticket!
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    Quote Originally Posted by dejayou30 View Post
    A plant that produces endless bud!? Sounds like you've found the golden ticket!


    Good point!
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    Switch to 24/0 light schedule and don't worry... about a thing... every little thing... gonna be all right.
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    I order SuperThrive online, or get it at the hydro store. I've not seen it at regular retail outlets.
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    ST is in all the garden sections in major stores around the Pacific Northwest here in the U.S. Not sure about other places. You can always get it online.
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    OK, I think one of them is going to make it, and has started some veg growth. It only took nearly 4 months to revert, with the last 1.5 mo. in 24 hr. lighting. The other one bought the big one about 2 weeks ago. It ate itself to death. I'm not sure why I'm so concerned that she pulls through. I've got 8 seedlings of that strain taking off nicely. Perhaps it's just a desire to see if it can happen. I've never heard of a plant taking so long to revert. Has anyone else? I'm used to seeing them revert in 2 weeks.
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    Wow...I never even thought of re-vegging the whole plant. I usually just cut it back to about 6 to 8 inches tall (with a few leaves left on it) After that, I flush the bloom nutes out of the soil, and add my usual veg ferts, then put her under 18/6 till ready to give up some juicy clones. Usually only takes a couple or few weeks to show the new veg growth.

    Hope it works out ok for ya.

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    Opie- looks like she's on her way. Time for a larger pot and some nice fresh soil to complete the process of convincing her to make some fat juicy shoots for clones.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusty Trichome View Post
    Wow...I never even thought of re-vegging the whole plant. I usually just cut it back to about 6 to 8 inches tall (with a few leaves left on it) After that, I flush the bloom nutes out of the soil, and add my usual veg ferts, then put her under 18/6 till ready to give up some juicy clones. Usually only takes a couple or few weeks to show the new veg growth.

    Hope it works out ok for ya.
    If I would have cut mine back to 8 inches I would have had all stem. They got a little stretched in the beginning. As long as I have the room I think that I am giving them a better chance if I leave at least half the plant, with 10 or 15 healthy leaves and 10 or 15 popcorn buds. The new growth always comes out of the buds first.

    If I get a nice bushy plant maybe sometime I'll try cutting down to 8". I think it's mostly just how much foliage and buddage you leave on, not how many inches worth of stem is left.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stinkyattic View Post
    Opie- looks like she's on her way. Time for a larger pot and some nice fresh soil to complete the process of convincing her to make some fat juicy shoots for clones.
    Gotcha stinky. I was also thinking of a flush and a nitrogen boost. Now I'm thinking I probably don't need to flush if I go to a bigger pot. Since she's never been flushed, would it be good to flush her, transplant her, and nitrogen boost her in that order? Or just skip the flush?

    What about using the same size pot, but cut the roots back as in this: mums? Would that be too much stress for a recovering budoholic?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Opie Yutts View Post
    Nearly all the fan leaves have died
    This could be the root of your problem. Plants like to have at least 20% of their foliage left to reveg.

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    Yeah, I can believe that's true. I've always done it the way I've described above though, which results in roughly 5%. After flowering there are very few healthy fan leaves on most of my weed plants, especially in the bottom half, so that becomes an issue. Perhaps next time, on plants that I want to reveg, I will give them a little N during flowering in the hopes they won't eat the leaves so much. Never thought about trying that before. Could this be bad?
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    I'd wait to make any major changes in feeding, flushing, etc. until you see some 'normal' leaves. Re-pot and water the plant in gently with water that has a drop or 2 of superthrive added to it. That will give you just a little Nitrogen and not shock the plant.

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    I wasn't saying you shouldn't, I was just shocked that I hadn't even thought of trying it. Not really enough 'head' room in my veg closet for something that tall, but am looking forward to your next pix.

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    Cool, thanks for your help people. I will show a couple pictures if she gets going good.
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    i ve done it succesfully twice, both times under 24 hour light. it takes about 2 wks the same you were getting with 18hrs. i had lots of bottom growth to choose from though but it was mainly all bud and a leaf or 2.
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    She survived!

    Update:

    One of the two survived. I actually thought she was not going to make it, but just about the time the last few leaves were ready to fall off, I noticed a little new veg growth. She had been slowly growing buds without other foliage.

    Here's what she looks like after she wasn't looked in on for about a week. She grew into the light and got burned, and at some point in that week the light stopped lighting. Don't know when. Why does that keep happening with my tube fluoros? The photos are after I pulled down and tied down the branches. This has been the weirdest reveg I have ever heard of.
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    congrats! i am not sure about tube flouros but with the compact ones they say you shouldnt use a timer on them.
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    Do you know why that is? What would be the difference if a timer turned on a switch or a human did? The problem fluoros have been plugged into a timer, but it's set to "on", not "auto", which means the lights don't go out, and current is flowing through the timer 24 hr, and it's only interrupted if there is a power outage. I've had no problems with CFLs on timers.
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    i am not sure, but i think the current flowing through them while off was supposed to be a problem. i cant remember where i read that at. it doesnt sound like your problem though if they are on all of the time. the pkg of cfls say right on it that they arent meant for timers or dimmers, mine did anyway.
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