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I don't see why you couldn't use clones that are moldy. Of course it's not ideal, but if it's a choice between that and not using clones, I would definitely use moldy clones. You can make mold go away. I'm not sure about those roots of yours, but I am a little familiar with mold during the rooting process. I keep a humidity dome on, except for a few times a day, and I usually end up seeing mold in a couple spots here and there. Most often where a leaf touches the cloner. This doesn't mean I'm going to throw them out. I spray a little fungicide on them to keep the mold under control, and I pick out mold as soon as I notice it. You could also try to do away with the humidity dome and use an anti wilt product instead. A dome greatly increases the chance of mold, and removing it greatly reduces the chance of mold. Also hardening them as soon as possible will help fight mold too. As soon as they can stay out of the dome on their own, there should be no more problem with mold, unless you don't have adequate ventilation.
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Oldjim, thanks for that cool link about slime. Very weird.
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I don't see why you couldn't use clones that are moldy. Of course it's not ideal, but if it's a choice between that and not using clones, I would definitely use moldy clones. You can make mold go away. I'm not sure about those roots of yours, but I am a little familiar with mold during the rooting process. I keep a humidity dome on, except for a few times a day, and I usually end up seeing mold in a couple spots here and there. Most often where a leaf touches the cloner. This doesn't mean I'm going to throw them out. I spray a little fungicide on them to keep the mold under control, and I pick out mold as soon as I notice it. You could also try to do away with the humidity dome and use an anti wilt product instead. A dome greatly increases the chance of mold, and removing it greatly reduces the chance of mold. Also hardening them as soon as possible will help fight mold too. As soon as they can stay out of the dome on their own, there should be no more problem with mold, unless you don't have adequate ventilation.
ive stopped playing the mold game, i had 8 amazing clones, and they all had some mold on them, when i saw it i chucked them, i dont fuck with that shit, it just keeps comming back, and not worth the time,aggravation, and/or money spent on anti mold/fungus shit. some people say its so easy to kill, i find it not even close to easy.. but just my thoughts on the subject i have way too much stress, to add to it with mold thats why i am thaking EVERY precaution possible this time.

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OK guys, there should be nobody having problems with the Aerogarden. I just heard on TV that it is foolproof and there is no work involved. So what's your guys' problem? Not only should you not be having problems, but there's no work involved, so you should automatically just be picking buds once a week or so. I don't know what's up with you guys, but I'm going to be getting several of these.
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OK guys, there should be nobody having problems with the Aerogarden. I just heard on TV that it is foolproof and there is no work involved. So what's your guys' problem? Not only should you not be having problems, but there's no work involved, so you should automatically just be picking buds once a week or so. I don't know what's up with you guys, but I'm going to be getting several of these.

hha, before i read the punchline i was thinking.... shit opie must be in a bad mood
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hey guys....thanks for making me laugh with all these posts. i did another res de-slime yesterday and added the serenade but my gut feeleing is that this is not going to turn out good. Barring a miracle this will probably be a chop. no harm though, it was a learning experience and i'm gonna make a comback and my next grow is gonna be incredible. I have been reading up on stadium scrog methods and i think i'm gonna give that a shot IN SOIL this time. Hydro i'll leave for the future.

Before I chop these I am going to use them for some practice cloning. does anyone have any advice here? obviously a rooting/cloning gel and rockwool cubes seems to be the method of choice. i have the cervantes, indoor MJ horticulture which i have read prety much cover to cover and he suggest using vermiculite, anyone have any experience with that? maybe i'll try both.

Opie let me know when all those aerogardens are vastly improving your life...i heard they also help with marriage problems, erectile disfunction, and they are a great diet aid. this one is going back to the store where i bought it...

unless you want to buy it???
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hey guys....thanks for making me laugh with all these posts. i did another res de-slime yesterday and added the serenade but my gut feeleing is that this is not going to turn out good. Barring a miracle this will probably be a chop. no harm though, it was a learning experience and i'm gonna make a comback and my next grow is gonna be incredible. I have been reading up on stadium scrog methods and i think i'm gonna give that a shot IN SOIL this time. Hydro i'll leave for the future.

Before I chop these I am going to use them for some practice cloning. does anyone have any advice here? obviously a rooting/cloning gel and rockwool cubes seems to be the method of choice. i have the cervantes, indoor MJ horticulture which i have read prety much cover to cover and he suggest using vermiculite, anyone have any experience with that? maybe i'll try both.

Opie let me know when all those aerogardens are vastly improving your life...i heard they also help with marriage problems, erectile disfunction, and they are a great diet aid. this one is going back to the store where i bought it...

unless you want to buy it???
hha, i just sold mine on ebay. heres the basic cloning instructions

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Every grower will want to clone at some point. Either you have some crazy plant you want to keep forever, or you just want to cut some time off your grow cycle, this is how to do it without the expense (and frustration when it doesn't work) of a commercial cloning machine.

Materials:
One package of composted tree bark cloning plugs- I use 'Rapid Rooters'. They are very good and have fungicidal properties. You want that, trust me!
One bottle of Dip-N-Grow concentrate- there are lots of cloning solutions, powders, and gels on the market. Don't waste your money, this one is by FAR the best, and it is cheap. Follow the mixing instructions for softwood cuttings. I think the ratio is 1:20.
An exacto knife with a fresh blade
A clean cutting surface- a pad of sticky-notes is GREAT, and I also like to use beer mats, you know, those little bar coasters?
A small pair of sharp scissors
A propagation tray and dome, either new, or if used, wash out and then sterilize with Scrubbing Bubbles foaming bathroom cleanser. Hit every surface. Allow to sit 15 minutes. Rinse it off. Trust me, that stuff was like MADE for growrooms.
Some nursery 6-packs that can hold your rapidrooters upright. Run them through the dishwasher before use, or clean as for the tray and dome
Lighting- I use a single CFL hung right over my dome. You can use your shop lights. Don't use a MH! It's too bright
A spray bottle. The ones that hair polishing products come in, that give the FINEST mist, are ideal. Your girlfriend will be pissed if you dump out the contents though, so ask first.
In the winter, if your house is wicked cold, you also need a seedling heat mat, but if you are above 68 degrees, you are fine- the light gives off a bit of heat too.

Prep your mother. She wants no Nitrogen for the week before taking cuttings, so feed her with a bloom fert and superthrive. About a half hour before use, water her well with plain water.

Pick a shoot that has a growing tip, preferably the most vigorous one on the plant, plus a couple small fans leaves right at the growing tip, and then further down the stem, another node whcih you will be stripping off in a moment.

Make a clean cut with your scissors about an inch below the lower node. Now, working quickly, lay the cutting on your sticky note pad or whatever and cleanly slice off the lowest leaf flush with the stem. Just below that, make a cut at a 45 degree angle and IMMEDIATELY dunk it into the dip n grow. Leave it there for about 10 seconds.
While the cutting is in the dip n grow, take your rapidrooter and slice another hole in the top. The one from the factory is too big for cannabis. You want no air around the cut stem, and good contact with the medium. Just plunge your exacto blade in there. Now gently push the base of the cutting in there. The stripped node must be below the plug surface.
Take your scissors and cut all remaining leaves down to only 1 inch long. You may write the name of the plant right on a leaf with a black sharpie. I use a code 3 characters long to identify strain and plant ID.
Put it in the 6 pack to stand upright, place under the dome, put the dome under the light, and make as many more as you want.
Don't crowd your plants. Air flow now, like at all other life stages, is important.
When you are finished making cuttings, fill your rinsed spray bottle with tap water and thoroughly spray the inside of the clear dome. I don't like to spray the cuttings directly, as water sitting on them can encourage rot.
Keep an eye on them and if they do wilt, mist them.
Also do not let the plugs dry out!!! They should not be sopping wet, but give them a few drops of water every so often.
In about 2 weeks they will be showing upwards growth and be ready to transplant. Treat them as you would a seedling being transplanted for the first time, but a light mist with wilt-pruf or even neem oil helps prevent any shock from going into a drier environment.
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thanks for the instructions...how much did you get for it on ebay?
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Wow, I would have expected less, like 50 or $75. Nice bit-o-bartering.

And no thanks on the offers. I'll let someone else have the opportunity.

You guys have had a bad hydro experience, which is unusual. Hydro is way easier than dirt. Much less problems overall. I hope your experiences don't permanently exclude hydro from your agenda, since the Aerogarden is not a means to judge by. You will be biting yourself in the ass if you do so.
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RIP my plants...

Hey Kids...

I chopped the slime mold plants last weekend...oh well, it was a learning experience and at least I got a new avatar out of the deal! I did use some of the serenade in the reservoir, but serenade is meant for folair feeding and it didn't help at all, so I decided to cut my losses and chop.

my conclusion is that the aerogarden can work for MJ, but it is far from ideal. Maybe if I had a root innoculant of some kind (hydroguard or something like that) and proper nutes from the beginning I would have had a successful grow. The main downfalls of the aerogarden are small reservoir and bad lighting. Also I think the rapid rooter sponge keeps the root ball too wet, and in reality I probably had some mold growing in that reservoir way before I saw the pink slime.

I have already started a new grow and I am going to post in the grow log area within the next few days. I am growing in potted soiless mixture and I want to try cloning this time. Please watch for the thread I could use everyone's help again!

Thanks to everyone, especially opie and jimmy, for answering all my questions during this grow...you guys helped sooooo much and I appreciate it a lot.
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wordsandwich: I think the work you put into trying to make those babies live was admirable, I personally think that the aerogarden sucks - you really worked hard on them.



Goodluck next time man With that dedication soil is gonna do you a great justice - I think!
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I am growing in potted soiless mixture and I want to try cloning this time.
Good Luck. Personaly i have never grown with soil, i like hydro/soil, but i cant imagine its much more difficult, maby easier maby not no idea.

btw nice avi (feel like i seen that somwhere before)
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i ment hydro/aero (not sure i like aero, but i have used it)
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I chopped the slime mold plants last weekend...
Crap, sorry to hear it.

The main downfalls of the aerogarden are small reservoir and bad lighting.
Absolutely, but that res would probably do a lot better holding one or two plants at most. I've got one doing great in a one gallon res right now.

Also I think the rapid rooter sponge keeps the root ball too wet
I suspect this could have been what your main downfall actually was. It kept things much too wet like rockwool does.

I have already started a new grow
Great to hear.

I want to try cloning this time.
Your best decision yet. It is great, saves sooo much time and trouble. I highly recommend a cheapo aerocloner.

Please watch for the thread I could use everyone's help again!
I will try to look in on logs more. Been meaning to anyway. But where's the time? Oh yeah, over there, in the corner, in a box.

Thanks to everyone, especially opie and jimmy, for answering all my questions during this grow...you guys helped sooooo much and I appreciate it a lot.
You're quite welcome. It was a learning experience for me as well. And denial103 is definitely right. You did put a lot of effort into your grow and so A+ on that. Hydro is not supposed to be like that. You just have to pop in on them every other day or so, do a res flush occasionally, and you're good to go.

Good luck on the new grow. Down with slime! By the way that's a real nice avatar you got there.
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