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PC, I'm with MVP. That's a nice-looking root mass. I'm assuming you scarify since I've never seen a root ball like that without doing so. Yes? No?
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Damn PC, love those roots! To me I tried the gel that the hydro fella recommended cuz its new and I like to experiment. I have heard great things about Clonex so I will give it a shot next time I need to buy supplies.

Looks like the gals are wilting today, do you apply an anti-wilt when you do your cuts? I never have but think I need to try it. Let me know if you have a recommendation...

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Clonex makes a rooting gel, but that's not what I'm talking about. Clonex LIQUID is used in conjunction with a cloning gel/powder, not instead of. I use "Green Light" rooting powder - $3.50 at Lowe's.

I've never used wilt pruf - never needed it. I have a special clone cab. I put the trays w/domes inside the clone cab, keep the inside of the domes well misted and keep the temps in the 80's. Anything that doesn't survive is a wimp and I don't want it anyway.

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PC, I'm with MVP. That's a nice-looking root mass. I'm assuming you scarify since I've never seen a root ball like that without doing so. Yes? No?
Oh yeah, I scarify - and I slice the stem up through my slanted cut.

Just to clarify, when I take cuttings and put them in water, they have lots of extra stem. When I put them in the RR, I scarify, make another cut (at a spot that is going to put the maximum number of nodes inside the RR), cut up the stem a little, dip in the Clonex solution, roll in the rooting powder and into the RR. It takes about ten seconds and I don't have to worry about any air bubble or embolism voodoo 'cuz it's a new cut just seconds before it's done and in the RR or rockwool.

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Scarifying Pic....

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Take a look at this pic from earlier in the thread. Scarifying is gently scraping the outer stem with the blade to expose soft matter that will root more effectively....

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Take a look at this pic from earlier in the thread. Scarifying is gently scraping the outer stem with the blade to expose soft matter that will root more effectively....

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thank you do you lightly scrape the whole thing all around?
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Yeah, I gently scrape all the way around the bottom 1/2 to 3/4 inch of the cutting.
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Yeah, I gently scrape all the way around the bottom 1/2 to 3/4 inch of the cutting.
woords so im gonna put about 30-50 of these beauty's under a rapid rooter dome with rapid rooter clone cubes. using dutch master cloning gel. should work out fine. the second i transplant them to 12 ounce soda bottles they will be off to the races.
b.t.w. i kno is prolly here somewhere but if u use the method im gonna do how long should it be till i harvest?

imma follow this clone guide since the results were SOOOOO huge under just simple CFL's
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stinky how can you allow someone to disrespect a fellow grower like that.
Mods don't stop people from dissing each other. That's a load of crap anyway. I can't stand people running around getting all bent out of shape because someone didn't pay respect. Why the hell should anyone care if not every person in the world respects them. And did you do anything to make said person respect you? In my neck of the woods respect is given to those that show above average character or something like that. It's earned, not automatically given, that's what I'm saying. Nome sane?

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b.t.w. i kno is prolly here somewhere but if u use the method im gonna do how long should it be till i harvest?
Well allow at least two weeks to root properly, then you can start feeding them a little. If you go to bud immediately, depending on the strain, you could harvest in as little as 6 or 7 weeks. Of course your harvest would be bigger if you gave them a little veg time.
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Okay back to the subject, the tough love approach is important to me too. I get 100% survival but at the end of 2 weeks that dome is comin' OFF and anyone with wussy rooting will probably end up dead in this dry winter air. I don't like to waste time re-potting a clone that is going to sit there and do nothing.

If you don't get a node, scarification is of utmost importance. You don't NEED to have a node in the plug; it is MUCH MUCH easier and faster, but a plant that is not giving you cloneable shoots as fast as you'd like can be stretched by raising the lights and you cna then take advantage of the lengthened internodes for cuts. The side shoucl be scraped lightly before dipping to expose the soft tissue where the undifferentiated cells you're after are concentrated.
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Yeah, I gently scrape all the way around the bottom 1/2 to 3/4 inch of the cutting.
I don't know why my post addressing this would get axed, but I truly wanted to know if you scrape all the way around down to the whitish stuff. I've never heard of this before, and I wanted to know if I've been doing things wrong or missing some advantage. I know trees need at least a little strip of bark to survive, and I kinda thought it would be the same with the clone for some reason.

Notice how stinky says The side shoucl be scraped lightly before dipping. I take this to mean one side. I know that some people do two sides, but I thought that was more dangerous for some reason. It seems like I read that somewhere.

Just a little confused over here.

1) Should I be scraping all the way around?
2) Should I be scraping around a node instead of the stem, or one side of it, and should I have the node in the cloner?
3) Why did my question about this get deleted?

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I've never thought about that before, but that does seem kind of important to keep in mind.

Thanks stinky, and sorry for my little off topic rant there.
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I don't know why my post addressing this would get axed, but I truly wanted to know if you scrape all the way around down to the whitish stuff. I've never heard of this before, and I wanted to know if I've been doing things wrong or missing some advantage. I know trees need at least a little strip of bark to survive, and I kinda thought it would be the same with the clone for some reason.

Notice how stinky says The side shoucl be scraped lightly before dipping. I take this to mean one side. I know that some people do two sides, but I thought that was more dangerous for some reason. It seems like I read that somewhere.

Just a little confused over here.

1) Should I be scraping all the way around?
2) Should I be scraping around a node instead of the stem, or one side of it, and should I have the node in the cloner?
3) Why did my question about this get deleted?

I scarify the entire bottom of the stem. I hold it in my hand and twist it gently while scraping. I carefully scrape where I slice off the node too as I figure that the more tender flesh that is expose the more future roots will develop.
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liken the guide man. I took 10 clones from my plants and only had 6 survive. oh well guess i don't want them anyways.

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That don't seem right. I can count on about 98% success. Perhaps it's my cheapo aerocloner, I don't know. I would like to know what you are doing different. Why would you have such a low success rate? Any ideas?
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if this is turning into a sticky on cloning, should we be adding short, fact-packed lil blurbs to add to the value of the thread?
altho not the expert these guys are, my simple, positive experience may be useful?
guys?

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That don't seem right. I can count on about 98% success. Perhaps it's my cheapo aerocloner, I don't know. I would like to know what you are doing different. Why would you have such a low success rate? Any ideas?
Opie, I would like to see some add'l details on your cheapo cloner. Do ya think a quick add to the thread is in order? Don't look at it as taking over - and if you do I don't care - just adding to the knowledge base since this we are now stickified.

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altho not the expert these guys are, my simple, positive experience may be useful?
guys?

lemme kno.
Rock, I doubt we are all pros here, but we are folks that experiment and wanna learn and share what we found out - Mad Scientists of sorts. Post some of what you have experienced - relating directly to the topic as you implied - and lets grow this thread into something bigger and better.

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Perhaps in the near future. Gotta go buy a winch right now.
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A winch?? Nobody mentioned we would need a winch for cloning!! I'd like an explanation before I run out and buy my clones a winch.
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Well it's for LST on my big weed tree. The only way to pull the branches down is to use a winch.
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Hi all. I think the only thing that isnt really mentioned here is the "humidity dome". Can someone give a little info as to what this is and if it is necessary? Im running a closet grow so I dont have much room, and I would like to work with some clones soon.
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It's pretty necessary, but I suppose you could get by without it if you continuously blast them with a humidifier, or constantly mist them, while using an antiwilt. Fresh cuttings don't have roots anymore, so they have to get the required moisture through the leaves, which requires humidity. A humidity dome can be something as simple as a clear Tupperware container, 100 pack CD container, or an extra clear tub the same size as your cloner tub.
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