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Nov-25-2007, 20:09
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Clone Log - Cloning with Pics using Master Kush mom...
Ok folks, I can't tell you that this is how it works perfectly but this is how I cloned my Master Kush babes today...
First, assembled the necessities: 1. mother plant 2. razor blade 3. rapid rooter type cubes 4. rooting hormone 5. cup of Reverse Osmosis water 6. isopropyl alcohol NOTE: make sure that you have all of your supplies together before you start or else you will be sorry.... Open the new razor blade and clean it off with the alcohol. Make sure you have leached the mother plant with copius amounts of water every day for a few days before cloning the plants.
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Nov-25-2007, 20:28
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Nov-25-2007, 20:34
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Step 2: Get Ready to Make Some Cuts...
Now what you need to do is pick a healthy growing shoot that has at least a couple of sets of leaves within the top 2 inches of the shoot. I cut this branch about 6 inches below the top of the shoot and place into the cup of RO water. You want to place the cut immediately into the water so that a bubble does not develop on the end that prevents the new cut from "breathing".
Repeat a number of times until you no longer have good looking shoots to turn into cuttings. Once you have the cuts in the cup of water you will wanna be prepared to cut off the lower branches and scarify (scrape) the stem, dip into the rooting solution/gel and insert into the growing medium. Next step: preparing the cuts for the medium
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Nov-25-2007, 20:37
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Nov-25-2007, 20:43
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OOooooo like it so far MVP....PICS!!
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Nov-25-2007, 20:49
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Preparing the Cuts for the Medium
Take the medium and prepare a hole for the new cut. I always turn the grow cube/rockwool/root cube over and poke my own hole using a toothpick, cuz the original hole is way too friggin big for how I do the cuts.
Next trim down the cuts from the apprx. 6 inches to maybe 3 inches or so, plus or minus, and trim off the nodes necessary to get them to this size. Any bigger and they will not hold up well/stand up in the cube/plug/etc. OK folks, it is Sushi time, gotta run for a bit but I'll finish later......
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Nov-26-2007, 00:59
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Looking real good so far. How are you keeping that mother? Is that a DWC? I've been wanting to get my moms out of dirt, but not sure the best way to go about it. How was sushi?
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Nov-26-2007, 03:21
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Yes it is DWC, in a 3 gallon container from Target. Sushi was awesome. C'mon down to OC and I'll get you the best sushi on the South Coast...
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Nov-26-2007, 03:27
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Lived in OC for 12 years. Got my first taste of sushi there. I miss a lot of things about that place.
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Nov-26-2007, 03:40
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Next Step.... Down and Dirty..... Clone 'em!!!
Hello again,
Time to elaborate....... Make a 45 degree cut on the stem and scarify (scrape) the stem to expose the tender flesh to the rooting hormone. It will make it easier for the plant to grow roots thru the newly scraped flesh. Either dip the newly cut piece into the rooting hormone or brush it on the stem. NOTE: do NOT just dip into the container as you will contaminate the gel/solution. Brush it on to the scraped root stem (like I did with a toothpick) or put it into a new container and dip it there...
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Weedhound, you with me here? I hope so cuz I anticipate this will get you over your fears........
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Nov-26-2007, 04:20
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Time to Stick It In The Medium
NOTE: IF USING ROCKWOOL - soak it in 5.5 PH water about an hour or so to neutalize you medium..........
Now that ya made the cut, scraped the stem and dipped it in hormone, you are ready to stick it in the hole... the same one you made with a toothpick, not the "factory" hole... that one is usually too big and won't support the root and shield it from the environment (air) around it..... So.... take the root cube (or like medium) and insert the new cut into the toothpick hole you made earlier... if you are using rockwool, you should have soaked it in 5.5 PH water about an hour or so to neutalize you medium. Insert it until it sits firmly into the hole but be careful not to force it in and break the stem.
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Nov-26-2007, 04:36
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Dammit It Is Late, But We Are Almost There......
Now you will want to cut the leaves in half to restrict transpiration. Pull out the scissors or clippers and cut the leaves as shown in the pics. It will keep the plants from "breathing" too much into their environment.
Now put them into your humidity dome, fog the dome and tray (not the cuts) lightly with a spray of RO water, and keep them under 24/0 light for a week... If you don't know what to do next or have questions, post and wait for a few hours cuz its late and I gotta get some sleepy time... g'nite all MVP 
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Nov-26-2007, 13:42
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Hey those are lovely.
Where do you make your hole.....next to the one already made or do you turn the little thing over and make a hole in the bottom?
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Nov-26-2007, 13:45
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Another question....i've heard talk about dipping the stem in water to prevent air bubbles or something. Do you do that at all? If so...why? If not...why not?
Any anti-wilt or antifungal spray? Thanks MVP 
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Nov-26-2007, 13:57
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Looks excellent. This is a fabulous thread and is getting a sticky in the 'basic' section... let me know if you want it moved back here.
WH, if the mother is properly watered prior to cutting, there should be no risk of bubbles. I saw that comment too about saoking for 10 min in water or whatever... and replied to it... grr... It's ideal to get the cut off the mother and into the rooting gel as fast as humanly possible.
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Nov-26-2007, 14:03
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Well hydro.....watering?
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Nov-26-2007, 14:08
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So you can assume that a hydro mother is plenty turgid already, lol.
Even hydro growers often keep dirty girls for mothers though, so just a bit of a hint for those of us with perlite ground into the carpet...
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Nov-26-2007, 14:28
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I am already having nightmares.....
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Nov-26-2007, 15:12
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I don't know if you want my $.02 on your thread MVP, but I'm going to put in a plug for Clonex here. When I clone, which I do on a regular basis, I always use Clonex liquid (I guess they make a gel too?) mixed 10ml/ltr as per package instructions. Rapid Rooters get soaked for a couple hours in the solution; rockwool is soaked overnight. I keep the solution at pH 5.5 and correct it to pH 5.5 before I put the cutting into the rockwool or Rapid Rooter.
I then put a couple of liters of the Clonex solution in a big bowl and, like you, start cutting away and putting the cuttings in the solution as I go. (If I'm doing 80 clones, I'd go out of my mind, and kill my back, if I couldn't do an assembly line like process. ...and if 3% of them die, I couldn't care less.) Other than the Clonex and the soaking, I'm basically using the same procedure you have here. The clones I take come from bigger mothers, so I have to enlarge the hole in RRs with a screwdriver, but the process is otherwise the same. Oh, when I cut the leaves, I gently squeeze the base of the fan leaf so that the individual leaves are stacked and then cut the entire leaf with one cut. It just makes the operation a little quicker. Here's a pic of a clone's roots six days after I cut it from the mother. Very good instructions M.V.P. PC 
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Nov-26-2007, 16:48
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I dip them in water to keep them all perky and huddled together in case I get distracted from them for a few hours. Small chance of a bubble developing regardless but that is how I always have done it.... I have never used anti-fungals, and never tried an anti-wilt, but it looks like I should give the anti wilt a shot.
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Nov-26-2007, 16:53
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Damn PC, love those roots! To me I tried the gel that the hydro fella recommended cuz its new and I like to experiment. I have heard great things about Clonex so I will give it a shot next time I need to buy supplies.
Looks like the gals are wilting today, do you apply an anti-wilt when you do your cuts? I never have but think I need to try it. Let me know if you have a recommendation... MVP
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Nov-26-2007, 17:44
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I don't use an antiwilt, nor do I mist my cuttings or dome, except occasionally as I am putting them in the cloner. That is only if the ones in the cloner start looking a little droopy before I am done. My problem is too much moisture in my humidity dome, not too little. I use an antifungal. This will vary in necessity from system to system. Also as I take cuttings from the mother I submerge them in cold water. That way as I am cloning they stay nice and perky, even down to the last one, and if they were not real perky to begin with they will become so. You want the cut to be submerged as soon as it is cut, and you want to keep it that way until the last possible moment. If the cut dries out in the least, you might as well chuck the cutting. It aint going to undry. I've never seen it, but it could also get an embolism, or air bubble in it, blocking any moisture uptake through the stem.
Nice going so far MVP.
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Nov-26-2007, 17:46
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PC, I'm with MVP. That's a nice-looking root mass. I'm assuming you scarify since I've never seen a root ball like that without doing so. Yes? No?
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