Originally Posted by bobthenuker

Mmmmm...yes I consider them to be the ignorant bunch...not so much myself...anything wrong with that? I'm rather tolerant of others outlooks on life, and understanding...but when you grow up somewhere where everyone just cares about money, hair gel, rims on cars, and not reading, or school, or constantly acquiring knowledge...well than I do consider that to be ignorance...what gets to me is when I want to talk about something other than clubbing and cars...like history, or classical music, I get ridiculed for...THAT my friend is what I consider ignorance...Generalizations exist b/c they are generally true, nothing wrong with slapping on labels.

Originally Posted by apocolips31

Daihashi, I don't want you to think I am insulting you by anything I am about to say, I have the utmost respect for you and your ideas. I have always enjoyed reading yours posts and have found them to be useful more than once. It seems you can get to know someone better by reading their posts on a cannabis forum then knowing them in person. So when I say I think you think you know too much don't take it as a attack. It is just that you even said it your self that what works for someone doesn't work for everyone. The same is true about your outlook on life. Maybe some people just won't be happy that way. Who knows? Maybe there are some people who think I am right and some who think I am wrong, but isn't that how everything has always been? Also, you don't know if the people he was talking about actually know him on a close basis. Maybe he really knows if they are ignorant. I don't know. Maybe I am just too high and don't know what I am saying.

Originally Posted by daihashi

Well there's nothing wrong with that except for your reason for calling them ignorant:

ig·no·rant (gnr-nt)
adj.
1. Lacking education or knowledge.
2. Showing or arising from a lack of education or knowledge: an ignorant mistake.
3. Unaware or uninformed.

By definition what you're describing is not ignorance but rather they have a different preference in what they would like to do. Labeling people and categorizing them without getting to truly know them on a deeper level is ignorance. The reason why that would be ignorance is because you have a lack of real information on them. All you know of them is what you see on the surface.

Who's to say they are not gaining knowledge outside of the subjects you find interesting? You don't know that for a fact. I'm sure there is a lot you could learn from these people. Is there anything wrong with preferring to know about Automotives rather than philosophy?

However if you don't want to associate with these people because you enjoy different things then that's your perogative, but to call them ignorant because of that is.. well... ignorant and sort've prejudice

Looking down on people is also arrogant; which it sounds like you're doing, but maybe you're not and maybe you just chose poor wording.

You are allowed to do whatever you want for whatever reasons you wish but I believe you are using the wrong wording and you could be otherwise confusing people who are battling with a similar situation and have them make the same decision for the wrong reasons because of it.

But to each his own. I'm going to have a few beers with my emo and guido friends later tonight and just enjoy them for who they are and not what they have to offer;

And another word for generalization is stereotype; which is not always true and often times not even true majority of the time. You can either use a stereotype for humor and have fun with it.. helping you bond with other people or you can use it as a reason to create a divider between people.

I hope you find someone who's company suits you soon. Really it's all what we perceive to be; truth be told you can typically enjoy most people's company if you just let go of your expectations.

Originally Posted by bobthenuker

I see ignorance along those same lines...someone who doesn't wish to constantly learn and acquire new knowledge. And you're mistaken, I know most of these people quite well, passed the surface, because I've know a few of them since an early age, my perception of them is quite justified...but enough about me.

Arrogance, self-pride, looking down on others...they can be effective tools to better yourself, to become strong....if in moderation of course. You would agree that in life there must be a balance of things. If someone does provide you with good company, then you must see him as a friend and an equal. Yet if someone mocks you for learning, mocks your music, or your life, even if they do not mean it with all their heart...what is the point of putting forth effort to befriend them...if they do not. Why try to please someone to become your friend?

Rather, if they are like this, it is alright I believe to look down at them. For we are not all equal, is the poor man who betters his situation not better than the poor man who doesn't. Likewise, is the man who constantly seeks knowledge not better than he who is ignorant. Is not coveting silly things such as clubbing and car rims, so dead set on your ways, and mocking those that do put forth effort to read and learn not ignorance?? I don't wish to go round and round, because you have a point of view, as do I, so I'll just say to the original poster:

The best remedy for you is empowerment. Don't go beckoning people to be your friends if they don't value you, you will find people that eventually will. Your feeling of weakness can be fixed, if someone antagonizes you look down upon them as just a fool, and rise above them. As naive as it sounds believe you're better. Have pride, strive to achieve something. Whatever gives you this feeling of weakness and depression cut it out from your life, for it's dragging you down. It is better to feel strong and have self-pride, than feel sorry for yourself. Associate yourself only with people you enjoy, if you don't like them or have a bad feeling about them, don't waste your time. And if you can't find a friend currently than be alone, but find something to dedicate your life to. Learn to enjoy being alone.

Originally Posted by thcbongman

I couldn't rep you but DaiHashi, thank you for your post. It really got to me deeply yesterday.

Originally Posted by NoDrugs4Me

Can't make any friends... of course I haven't really tried because no one I run into has any of the same interests... tired of it.

Don't want to deal with socialites... don't feel like dealing with general ignorance, which even I suffer from, but I can't get over it....

Been reading my Bible more often, but it's still SO hard to be by yourself 24/7... even when around others. My mind is always racing and nothing seems to add up.

After three years of reading this site, I still find myself making stupid mistakes (look under indoor growing for semi-right setup)....

To be 23... I have a horrible outlook on life. You guys are the only ones I have to talk to, and I haven't been talking much on here.

Anyone know what I'm talkin about? Is it just the "poor me" syndrome or could my anxiety and depression be legit?

Originally Posted by NoDrugs4Me

Anyone know what I'm talkin about? Is it just the "poor me" syndrome or could my anxiety and depression be legit?

Originally Posted by rebgirl420

Originally Posted by daihashi

I know exactly what you went through. It took a relationship gone wrong for me to realize what was wrong with my current outlook on life. I was constantly looking for happiness outside myself. I was looking for happiness through the comfort of friends or through relationships; yet everything disappointed me.

People disappointed me and I was convinced that people would always let you down. I would do things for people and go out of my way to be nice and I never felt appreciated. The same would hold true for my relationships. If I didn't get the response I was expecting from the other person involved I would become very depressed.. convinced that either I didn't fit in or that the world was a horrible miserable place.

Someone then told me the obvious. Do not have expectations. I didn't understand until 1-2 years later; but after much self reflection it totally made sense. My disappointment in people, the world and all my relationships had nothing to do with other people. My disappointment and unhappiness had to do with my expectations of what 'should be'.

When you expect someone to respond to you a certain way.. when you expect someone to understand your point of view, when you expect someone to love you back then you set yourself up for sadness. The only expectation you should ever have is of yourself. When you can find happiness in yourself and let go of your expectations of others then things become much easier.

When I do things for people now I do it out of genuinity and do not expect them to say thank you or seem appreciative. The fact that I wanted to do it is enough satisfaction for me. Knowing I was able to help this person is enough. When someone doesn't understand my point of view, and this one is a hard one but ultimatley, I let it go and accept that we are just different people and I try to learn more about people from the conflict/contrast. When I do not receive the response I'm hoping for from my significant other I don't mind, I let it go and accept that she may think differently or express her love, appreciation, comfort etc etc differently from me.. therefore what I perceive to be a lack of caring is within myself and not within the others.

All the unhappiness we feel in this world stems from ourselves. No one can MAKE you unhappy. Only you can make yourself unhappy but at the same time only YOU can make yourself happy/content.

Knowing this I have been able to let go of the attachment to reciprocation or expectations and focus on myself. I've realized *I* am a good person. I've realized *I* am pretty funny. I've realized *I* am attractive.. I've realized *I* genuinely care.. I've realized that I an intelligent and knowledgable.. and I've realized that no one else is me; therefore I shouldn't hold them up to my same standards or expect them to act as I would.

Since then I've found happiness in myself.. With this lack of attachment and happiness within myself I've also found happiness in life.

I am not sure if anything I said has made sense or if you can understand it. It took me a few years to grasp this concept but once I did I have never been happier.

Do not look elsewhere to be content just realize that nothing and no one will be like you and expecting someone or society to act as you do will only lead to sadness and disappointment; but if you let go of this then you can see things for what they really are.

Everything, everyone and every social group/society is different. If you happen to find someone similar to you then find joy in that you have a kindred spirit in life but also find joy in that everyone is different.

Let go of expectations.


ps: your anxiety and depression could be legit, but before you do something drastic I suggest you take a strong look at yourself and ask yourself if you feel the way you do because it's your outlook or if things are REALLY the way you perceive them.

ie: if you feel like everyone hates you then do they? Are they walking past you on a daily basis telling you you're worthless or do you just FEEL that they hate you?

I've noticed something since my change. People directly reflect back the mood and persona which you put out; however they can sense the difference between being genuine and not. Look inside yourself for the answers.

pss: I'm not high. I've actually been dead sober for almost 2 months now (wish i had some weed though.. lol)

Originally Posted by THClord

I was also one you would call a 'deeper' person. But I learned to live in the moment. Living in the moment is much much more rewarding. It's the way to get girls, makes you a fun person, and is fun in it's self. Even if you're a deep person, you should still be able to have fun at parties and really anywhere. Just try to not further your outlook, but pursue what really interests you. Don't be ashamed if you find something amusing noone else notices. The smile on your face noone gets is often the smile that will get you the most attention.