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Can't make any friends... of course I haven't really tried because no one I run into has any of the same interests... tired of it.

Don't want to deal with socialites... don't feel like dealing with general ignorance, which even I suffer from, but I can't get over it....

Been reading my Bible more often, but it's still SO hard to be by yourself 24/7... even when around others. My mind is always racing and nothing seems to add up.

After three years of reading this site, I still find myself making stupid mistakes (look under indoor growing for semi-right setup)....

To be 23... I have a horrible outlook on life. You guys are the only ones I have to talk to, and I haven't been talking much on here.

Anyone know what I'm talkin about? Is it just the "poor me" syndrome or could my anxiety and depression be legit?
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Can't make any friends... of course I haven't really tried because no one I run into has any of the same interests... tired of it.

Don't want to deal with socialites... don't feel like dealing with general ignorance, which even I suffer from, but I can't get over it....

Been reading my Bible more often, but it's still SO hard to be by yourself 24/7... even when around others. My mind is always racing and nothing seems to add up.

After three years of reading this site, I still find myself making stupid mistakes (look under indoor growing for semi-right setup)....

To be 23... I have a horrible outlook on life. You guys are the only ones I have to talk to, and I haven't been talking much on here.

Anyone know what I'm talkin about? Is it just the "poor me" syndrome or could my anxiety and depression be legit?
I know exactly what you went through. It took a relationship gone wrong for me to realize what was wrong with my current outlook on life. I was constantly looking for happiness outside myself. I was looking for happiness through the comfort of friends or through relationships; yet everything disappointed me.

People disappointed me and I was convinced that people would always let you down. I would do things for people and go out of my way to be nice and I never felt appreciated. The same would hold true for my relationships. If I didn't get the response I was expecting from the other person involved I would become very depressed.. convinced that either I didn't fit in or that the world was a horrible miserable place.

Someone then told me the obvious. Do not have expectations. I didn't understand until 1-2 years later; but after much self reflection it totally made sense. My disappointment in people, the world and all my relationships had nothing to do with other people. My disappointment and unhappiness had to do with my expectations of what 'should be'.

When you expect someone to respond to you a certain way.. when you expect someone to understand your point of view, when you expect someone to love you back then you set yourself up for sadness. The only expectation you should ever have is of yourself. When you can find happiness in yourself and let go of your expectations of others then things become much easier.

When I do things for people now I do it out of genuinity and do not expect them to say thank you or seem appreciative. The fact that I wanted to do it is enough satisfaction for me. Knowing I was able to help this person is enough. When someone doesn't understand my point of view, and this one is a hard one but ultimatley, I let it go and accept that we are just different people and I try to learn more about people from the conflict/contrast. When I do not receive the response I'm hoping for from my significant other I don't mind, I let it go and accept that she may think differently or express her love, appreciation, comfort etc etc differently from me.. therefore what I perceive to be a lack of caring is within myself and not within the others.

All the unhappiness we feel in this world stems from ourselves. No one can MAKE you unhappy. Only you can make yourself unhappy but at the same time only YOU can make yourself happy/content.

Knowing this I have been able to let go of the attachment to reciprocation or expectations and focus on myself. I've realized *I* am a good person. I've realized *I* am pretty funny. I've realized *I* am attractive.. I've realized *I* genuinely care.. I've realized that I an intelligent and knowledgable.. and I've realized that no one else is me; therefore I shouldn't hold them up to my same standards or expect them to act as I would.

Since then I've found happiness in myself.. With this lack of attachment and happiness within myself I've also found happiness in life.

I am not sure if anything I said has made sense or if you can understand it. It took me a few years to grasp this concept but once I did I have never been happier.

Do not look elsewhere to be content just realize that nothing and no one will be like you and expecting someone or society to act as you do will only lead to sadness and disappointment; but if you let go of this then you can see things for what they really are.

Everything, everyone and every social group/society is different. If you happen to find someone similar to you then find joy in that you have a kindred spirit in life but also find joy in that everyone is different.

Let go of expectations.


ps: your anxiety and depression could be legit, but before you do something drastic I suggest you take a strong look at yourself and ask yourself if you feel the way you do because it's your outlook or if things are REALLY the way you perceive them.

ie: if you feel like everyone hates you then do they? Are they walking past you on a daily basis telling you you're worthless or do you just FEEL that they hate you?

I've noticed something since my change. People directly reflect back the mood and persona which you put out; however they can sense the difference between being genuine and not. Look inside yourself for the answers.

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Youve got some serious poor me syndrome. Unfortunately self pity is addictive. Sometimes feeling bad just feels so right, and no you dont have to be a masochist

People build up problems in their heads plenty too. Cultivate your zen like easy come easy go approach to the world and watch as everything becomes drastically easier
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You smoke weed and you're depressed? You sir are an anomaly to modern science.

On the real though man, cheer the F up. Look at yourself; you're young, handsome presumably, and honest. You have so much to look forward to. Just imagine yourself 10 years from now. You could have a family and a steady job somewhere with really nice health benefits, but no massage therapy coverage which kind of leaves a little thorn in your side, and your wife is expecting.

But none of that will happen if you don't get off your lazy ass and do something with you life. No excuses. Go to self confidence courses if you need to, or some Tony Robbins thing if that's your steez.

Seriously man, you probably have no real problems so you have to create yourself some issues. Maybe you need some good sativa bud, get your mind right. You're straight trippin boo.

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How about people start living defferently, Check out this website Zeitgeist - The Movie After I watched the videos I stumbled apon it changed me. I would hope out of all places cannabis users would understand what Im getting at. Maybe im a little late with this "enlightenment" but better late then never.
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Hello there.. I can feel you hurting... My friend I think your suffering from depression with a big dose of anxiety that stays with it... Believe it or not,,with certain forms of depression and anxiety, the worse thing you can do is smoke marijuana.. I believe wholeheartedly in medical marijuana and am for the legalization of ganja, and am a smoker. This does not mean that the herb will cure all ailments. Intelligent people often feel like you do,, Its a symptom of knowing a little too much, seeing a little more than most... Bless and take care...d
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< Well First of all I dont believe in the "beast" thats just symoblism. If my fellow man(which I dont believe in the word "fellow"as I believe we are all one organism there is no "me" or "we" or "you" there is "man" not "us" or "we" as those words still refer to man as seperate entities as one, but we are all one consiousness that outta huge paralizing fear(such as a Huge natural disaster millions of years ago or something when human being adults had minds of 13 year olds equivalant today. human ego's and individuality were created out of fear(like insanity is created as a coping mechanism to sheild us from a reality we dont want to handle). I believe we are using only the 10 percent of our brains is because we are not connected as one no more, we are barriered by individuality and ego. Back to the point if I refuse to get a chip in my body in the future if in my time, ill die a martyr.

The word "government" litteraly means to control the mind, look it up. Its not hidden from you.

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yeah i know how you feel most of the time. Except ive just gotten to the point that i dont want to deal with the majority of people anymore.
I have a ton of self confidence, but its just the people at this college seem so dumb or annoying. irony lol
Cant wait to go home and be with my real friends

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You all make a lot of sense and I honestly believe my depression is self induced. I stay in my head quite often and am straying further and further from society. I can't say that it's a bad thing, as the people I encounter seem shady. It could very well be my environment or the fact that nothing is wrong, so I MAKE there be something wrong. Either way, something has gone haywire, so to say. Everything that is happening now is a direct effect of what I have done in the past. Lost opportunities and broken dreams are always with me, and tomorrow seems dark. I don't smoke as much as I used to. That may be the issue, or it can be why I never saw the problems before. I don't want to give up on my best friend, and I won't, but could the smoke really be to blame? It is possible I'm losing my mind...
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I know exactly what you went through. It took a relationship gone wrong for me to realize what was wrong with my current outlook on life. I was constantly looking for happiness outside myself. I was looking for happiness through the comfort of friends or through relationships; yet everything disappointed me.

People disappointed me and I was convinced that people would always let you down. I would do things for people and go out of my way to be nice and I never felt appreciated. The same would hold true for my relationships. If I didn't get the response I was expecting from the other person involved I would become very depressed.. convinced that either I didn't fit in or that the world was a horrible miserable place.

Someone then told me the obvious. Do not have expectations. I didn't understand until 1-2 years later; but after much self reflection it totally made sense. My disappointment in people, the world and all my relationships had nothing to do with other people. My disappointment and unhappiness had to do with my expectations of what 'should be'.

When you expect someone to respond to you a certain way.. when you expect someone to understand your point of view, when you expect someone to love you back then you set yourself up for sadness. The only expectation you should ever have is of yourself. When you can find happiness in yourself and let go of your expectations of others then things become much easier.

When I do things for people now I do it out of genuinity and do not expect them to say thank you or seem appreciative. The fact that I wanted to do it is enough satisfaction for me. Knowing I was able to help this person is enough. When someone doesn't understand my point of view, and this one is a hard one but ultimatley, I let it go and accept that we are just different people and I try to learn more about people from the conflict/contrast. When I do not receive the response I'm hoping for from my significant other I don't mind, I let it go and accept that she may think differently or express her love, appreciation, comfort etc etc differently from me.. therefore what I perceive to be a lack of caring is within myself and not within the others.

All the unhappiness we feel in this world stems from ourselves. No one can MAKE you unhappy. Only you can make yourself unhappy but at the same time only YOU can make yourself happy/content.

Knowing this I have been able to let go of the attachment to reciprocation or expectations and focus on myself. I've realized *I* am a good person. I've realized *I* am pretty funny. I've realized *I* am attractive.. I've realized *I* genuinely care.. I've realized that I an intelligent and knowledgable.. and I've realized that no one else is me; therefore I shouldn't hold them up to my same standards or expect them to act as I would.

Since then I've found happiness in myself.. With this lack of attachment and happiness within myself I've also found happiness in life.

I am not sure if anything I said has made sense or if you can understand it. It took me a few years to grasp this concept but once I did I have never been happier.

Do not look elsewhere to be content just realize that nothing and no one will be like you and expecting someone or society to act as you do will only lead to sadness and disappointment; but if you let go of this then you can see things for what they really are.

Everything, everyone and every social group/society is different. If you happen to find someone similar to you then find joy in that you have a kindred spirit in life but also find joy in that everyone is different.

Let go of expectations.


ps: your anxiety and depression could be legit, but before you do something drastic I suggest you take a strong look at yourself and ask yourself if you feel the way you do because it's your outlook or if things are REALLY the way you perceive them.

ie: if you feel like everyone hates you then do they? Are they walking past you on a daily basis telling you you're worthless or do you just FEEL that they hate you?

I've noticed something since my change. People directly reflect back the mood and persona which you put out; however they can sense the difference between being genuine and not. Look inside yourself for the answers.

pss: I'm not high. I've actually been dead sober for almost 2 months now (wish i had some weed though.. lol)

Wow oh wow. A lot of times when ive read your post you seem to come down on some a little hard, but I know and can tell its all for the good. In this case you hit the nail on the head, not just for him, but me as well and I appreciate it immensely man!!

I understood and accepted this concept of expectations for awhile and that other people can be just down-right evil. I have a hard time accepting that and I myself am just a happy-go-lucky, sharing person I tend to be guillable. Not in any major factors but small things like a story of their life, something miniscule in the small run and something that later I find to be completely false.
I side-tracked for a minute, but what Im trying to say is I have had this outlook (the one you described of the concept, as well as the self-pity one) for a minute now and even though I knew what was wrong I havent changed. Ive heard it before, but it wasnt really applicable to me and when I read this where you cant expect others to make you happy or be on the same thought as you, it really hit home. thanks a bunch bro
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Youve got some serious poor me syndrome. Unfortunately self pity is addictive. Sometimes feeling bad just feels so right, and no you dont have to be a masochist

People build up problems in their heads plenty too. Cultivate your zen like easy come easy go approach to the world and watch as everything becomes drastically easier
Exactly. You don't know how good you have it compared to a lot of other people.

Things could always be MUCH worse. Instead of complaining about your life why don't you go and try to make life better for someone who really is down shit creek without a paddle.
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Isn't it up shit's creek without a paddle? I guess it depends which way you want to travel on shit's creek. Where does shit's creek lead to anyways? I think it would be fitting if it led to poop hill or something else along the feces line.
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I dunno, either way you look at it either way down shit creek is still rather shitty.
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Anyone know what I'm talkin about? Is it just the "poor me" syndrome or could my anxiety and depression be legit?
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Hi, my name is flyin"high"imam and I totally am in your situation. except that I dont read the bible, and dont grow stuff yet!

This is my social circle, right here! and I try to make the best out of it. I find making freinds, and I mean selected and appropriate friends, quite hard around here. i have been with the average and even wanksta AND gangsta crowd, none were satisfactory for me. so for now I'm quite lonely and love it far better than being with those i truly cant relate to.

hell, I'm even lonely in my own house despite living with family members, keepin it cool with them and my profile low.

One thing I do alot is to talk outloud and put my mind out as if im talking to an audience, it works for me to nullify that loneliness when im really bored and got nothin to do. may sound crazy or schizophrenic to others, but we all have our unique ways of dealing with different stuff in life that may be weird to others n i can care less.

Keep yourself busy with your occupation, whatever it is.
utilize internet and your other routine parts of life (GYM, music listening, library, parks, nature goin, etc) the best way u can to fill your time and believe me the amount of dopamine your brain will produce out of all these favorite activities will cancel out that loneliness and nostalgia that u may feel at times. thats just how i cope, u may find it in your bible or any other method. good luck and nice meetin some "lonely freak" like me-self!(yeah, public views us as sort of freaks when u tell them u got no friends)

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Old Oct-23-2008, 09:25
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Hey there NoDrugs4Me!

Granny (St0rmCrow) gave some advice the other day on how to meet someone to score weed from. I think that what she said was basically to go out and do stuff that cool headier people do.

What are your interetests mate?

I enjoy outdoor activities so I joined the local fish and game club. Where I have met some great friends. I am also interested in Spirituality, so I hang out in the spirituality section at borders... Get the point?

If you get out there and live life you will meet people.

There is also the possibility of therapy or counseling to help you get through these issues.

The bottom line is the only way to make a change is to make the change!

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Wow oh wow. A lot of times when ive read your post you seem to come down on some a little hard, but I know and can tell its all for the good. In this case you hit the nail on the head, not just for him, but me as well and I appreciate it immensely man!!
I always have good intentions and never wish ill on anyone. Plus my posts in the politics forum (probably where you see my harsh posts) are not who I am as a person; it is simply a way to express my passion for the direction I feel the country I live in should take. It in no way exemplifies me as a person and I think a number of people have my passion confused with who I am as a person. I'm glad you were able to discern the difference in this post.

I'm also glad that what I said resonated with you. It took me a while to learn this and it sounds like you've understood it as well. Sometimes it's good to hear someone echo what we already know.

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I understood and accepted this concept of expectations for awhile and that other people can be just down-right evil. I have a hard time accepting that and I myself am just a happy-go-lucky, sharing person I tend to be guillable. Not in any major factors but small things like a story of their life, something miniscule in the small run and something that later I find to be completely false.
I side-tracked for a minute, but what Im trying to say is I have had this outlook (the one you described of the concept, as well as the self-pity one) for a minute now and even though I knew what was wrong I havent changed. Ive heard it before, but it wasnt really applicable to me and when I read this where you cant expect others to make you happy or be on the same thought as you, it really hit home. thanks a bunch bro
You have no idea how happy that makes me to know I was able to help someone else through my post. Even if it was for a brief moment.

Thank you for taking the time out to write this. It put a smile on my face
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Old Oct-23-2008, 11:42
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I don't really get this post man......maybe I'm one of those people

Listen man, the worst thing you can do for yourself is feel sorry....stand up and be a man! Devote yourself to something, like mastering an instrument, or working out, or your grow-op. Point is always keep yourself busy, and make a plan to escape your current situation, never feel helpless but always like a big strong man! Now that's damn good advice.

I kinda get what you're talking about, my last two years of high school I just grew away from everyone, b/c as you said the ignorance my friend, plus my town's full of only guidos and emos....Anyway, I didn't go to any parties or the prom or hung out with anyone, but only stayed home and played guitar for hours by myself, constantly getting better and that gave me pride and confidence. It may very well be your environment, and screw society, be proud of YOUR accomplishments! And if you don't have any that create some. It's always better to be full of pride than sorrow. It's like my dad always said...when you feel down, stand up, rip off your shirt, and beat your damn chest!
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First, I would like to point out that studies have linked over-use of cannabis with depression and anxiety while small use actually helps depression

moving onto the comment about showing up to a party with weed
thats illegal, and they aren't your friends, they want your weed

I Personally have felt the same way before hit me up on AIM if you ever need to chat about stuff. I've been the same lately about staying at home I have tons of friends but I tend to stay at home because im becoming less social but idk lol just hit me up sometime
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b/c as you said the ignorance my friend, plus my town's full of only guidos and emos....
I can't help but laugh at the irony in this statement.
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Old Oct-23-2008, 12:08
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I can't help but laugh at the irony in this statement.


Mmmmm...yes I consider them to be the ignorant bunch...not so much myself...anything wrong with that? I'm rather tolerant of others outlooks on life, and understanding...but when you grow up somewhere where everyone just cares about money, hair gel, rims on cars, and not reading, or school, or constantly acquiring knowledge...well than I do consider that to be ignorance...what gets to me is when I want to talk about something other than clubbing and cars...like history, or classical music, I get ridiculed for...THAT my friend is what I consider ignorance...Generalizations exist b/c they are generally true, nothing wrong with slapping on labels.
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