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Old Sep-13-2006, 21:13
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hey KD

can you tell me how you attached the CFL sockets to your cab? I have a bigger space (74" tall, 26" deep, 32" wide) but I'm going to do CFL and I want to attach them to a board or something that I can raise. I have NOOOO iea how to electrical stuff Are there double sockets like yours I can buy that have normal plugs attached that I can just plug in to the power strip?

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Old Sep-14-2006, 01:08
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Cool thanks David I thought about it and decided with my next grow I am going to LST. I topped one though just to see what happens. It looks pretty cool.

I haven't updated in about a week or so. I have worked on the box like mad getting the top part ready. I should have taken a picture befroe the plants were moved to the top part of the cab. the plants were growing right into the lights. I spotted some male Sacs on 2 of the plants. I trashed them and it helped out with space too. I kept one plant in a small pot cuz i want to see what the diffrent yeild will be if there is any at all? perhaps it will make more sense to grow more in smaller pots. I can notice a huge diffrence in growth since they were replanted.

Now the bottom part is my attempt of cloning, I hope it works. If it doesn't ill grow from seed again and try again. I have the rockwell in plane water about1/8 inch deep and i soaked them first. I was scared of adding nutes so i didn't. I cut them under water and dipped them into the cloning gel. I put them in 24 hours ago 2 seem like they are reaching for light and the rest all look like ass. ill see,, I spray the dome and the plants a 2 times a day humidity is like 60 and over under the dome. The temp is 85 under the dome It almost makes me think they would be better off with out the dome The temps then are. 70-80C 45-55 humid. Ill see how it goes.

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can you tell me how you attached the CFL sockets to your cab? I have a bigger space (74" tall, 26" deep, 32" wide) but I'm going to do CFL and I want to attach them to a board or something that I can raise. I have NOOOO iea how to electrical stuff Are there double sockets like yours I can buy that have normal plugs attached that I can just plug in to the power strip?

thanks dude
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I bought the cheep sockets and wired it to a shelve that cam with the cab because I had to put the exaust fan in a specific spot. that wouldn't allow me a movable light. I do wish I had one though. hahahah

Here is a pretty awsome link to make a light. Hooking up the regular sockets is very simple duder I sugest reading a quick how to circut on a light. Electricty flows in one direction. Just link all the light sockets together. I belive the sockets cost 1.50 at home depot and the doubler is somthing like 3 bucks.

you could also buy a power bar and plug the light sockets directly into the powerbar. You have to purchase the sockets that have 2 prongs on the back of them to plug into a normal wall socket. And in your case a powerbar. But thats getting pretty sketchy holding that to a board and stuff its bound to fall.


thats it the plants look ok. some leaf problems but they did have bugs and I sprayed 3 times and haven't seen any since. Perhaps that leaf problem is a by product of the little bugs. I dont see it on any of the newer leafs. I also think it could be that these plants haven't gotten enough only 1/8 strength, now its the fourth week. I didn't use anything but water when I repotted 4 days ago and it hasn't dried out yet one more day it will need a soak. A Root has already popped out of the side of the grow bag. I gently put it back in. I think thats a good sign. I am defintly not using grow bags next grow they are messy and not easy to move around a cab.

Any help is greatly appreciated....

Take her sleezy....

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Old Sep-14-2006, 01:10
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The Topped plant...

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Old Sep-14-2006, 01:32
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Here is a pretty awsome link to make a light.
How to make a CFL fixture for under $40......

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Old Sep-14-2006, 17:07
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No One Likes My plants. Or my Bad Clones. Is it ok to try and do Clones In a tuperware container? Or is a black try the best. I had to use the tray for the top of the cab. To make sure no water leaked out.

I thought the plants seemed ok/... Anyone?

Im lonely,,, and scared......

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Old Sep-14-2006, 17:16
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dude they seem a bit wrecked.. but that's just my humble opinion
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Old Sep-14-2006, 18:20
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Yeah The clones don't look happy at all. But There are 2 that stand stright up now and reach for light. The plants seem decent besides the yellowing on the leafs,

For my first grow that worked out Im pretty happy. but I appreciate your opinion.

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Old Sep-14-2006, 18:54
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you should have lst'ed floros almost need this to be used at thier best with time and patience you can create a masterpiece with your plant

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That's not true. I like your plants. Those first 1 1/2 week-old pictures were just impressive. I'm doing that CFL thing too but mine only just started the 3rd set of leaves. Like half the size of yours. I think partly (or mostly) because I had to use some outdoor seeds I ordered but took over 3 mos. to get. I even had already ordered others but the first ones showed up (got the second order in the mail today actually) but planted those outside ones in my cab. anyway cause that's all I had. Now I'm kind of glad because cabs. are much more secure. Anyway, cloning is a real art, and not easy. I plan to try too. But I know if success happens first tme around, luck is involved.
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Old Sep-14-2006, 22:23
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thanks for all your advice, i looked at that thread on making the light and i admit it don't look THAT hard...ill try it someday but for now i think i will actually go with using a powerstrip/bar and plugging them directlyi nto it. i didn't know you could even buy sockets that plug into the wall casue i see no one on grow forums doing that (which i realize means its prob not ideal). i'm going to try it though so i appreciate the info, i'm sure i can rig the shit up so it wont fall.

OR maybe I could use a bathroom light fixure if i can find one that plugs right into the wall, how would that work?

OK about your plants- i was very impressed by your grow. i know nothing about neem oil, but i have read that you should LST during veg around the 5th node. youre clones do look very sad but take heart i hear it is a very difficult thing to do and takes much practice b4 one can get it right.
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Old Sep-14-2006, 22:29
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Thanks Duders....

yeah I kinda bent the taller plant over tonight To match the size of the topped one. I plan to heavy lst my plants next grow. Im excited to see what happen with this grow.

3 clones are starting to stand up stright towards the light I hope it keeps happening. lol

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Old Sep-18-2006, 00:46
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Hello There...

So As of tonight I start flowering. Im pumped.

The clones looks crappy but a few have stood up and are reaching for light One looks really good, I almost think it has grown a little but that could just be my mind.

Heres some pictures.. My Freinds came over this afternoon I showed them aorund...
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Old Sep-18-2006, 00:49
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Size Does Matter,.,,

Check out the difference between pplant size with the pot size, these twpo plants are the same age started at the same time from seed. Last week I planted one in a 2G Grow Bag and left the other in the 6inch pot.

I interested in seeing the bud difference.

Also Pictures of the Topped plant... I had to pull the bigger plant down to match the height of the topped plant.

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Old Sep-18-2006, 04:53
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You can use the neem oil about every 5 days yeah, but you don't want to do it forever. Caterpillers are tough, though, and you might need something stronger like anise, thyme or clove. Extracts of anise and clove both give a pretty quick kill, but like most essential oils, have very short residual periods. With the neem oil though, just be careful not to overapply because it can have long term effects on the plant.
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Old Sep-18-2006, 10:00
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Cool Thanks Man, I haven't used the neem oil for a good 2 weeks now as well i haven't seen the bugs. I was thinking of spraying once soon as a just incase spray. Before they get any buds on em as i just change dthe light. What kind of long term affects can neem oil have?

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Well, I haven't used it on MJ before, but I have seen problems develop with soil pH (and eventually nute lockout) over long periods of regular application in landscaped gardens. But if you're making irregular applications (like less than once every two weeks), you won't build up enough in the soil, quick enough to make a difference.

Just read the directions, don't over-apply and you'll be just fine. Lookin' good, btw.
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Old Sep-18-2006, 18:08
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Yeah the neem oil seemed to work, plus I ditched a few plants that were suspect male. So less plants to worrie about and less plants for the bugs to live on.

im pumped to see what kind of bud these plants will give. I am thinking of adding a bit more light as well I am just trying to find the best way to plus the bulbs in so the don't take up lots of room in the already small box.

thanks for the Tips and comments.

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Old Sep-22-2006, 00:10
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Day 4 flower....

They are strething like crazy I need to make my light movable, or continue to keep tying them down. Its getting Bushy in there...

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Thats one frigin awesome set up! I like your plants as well, nice fat indica leaves
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Old Sep-22-2006, 10:42
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Yeah so far the setup was alkot of work but now that its all done and temps are good etc. I can just use the cab. the cloning is still a art i have to master but. Goibng fromm seed aint that bad cuz I can really only fit 3 in there anyways so 5 seeds each time. Seed sare 60 CAD for 10 at the store near by. It almost seems easier than cloning. plus ill have different strains all the time.

Thanks for the comments.,. Im getting excited soon Ill be able to see what 10,000 lummes will give me for a total 2.2 sqaure foot space the cab size is very small
I wish i could fit more light into there too , Im trying to figure out how I will, The side lighting i cool but the plants keep growing to it. so far and i have to tie thenm back
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go get the emergency space blanket, it says it reflects heat but you have nothing putting off any heat, CFLs are very low in heat
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Old Sep-22-2006, 16:16
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Cool yeah I plan to buy some Mylar or blanket after this grow, The plants are growing pretty fast right now, So I don't totally think I even need Mylar unl;ess it will significantly help my buding stage. It took a long time to set this box up right. now that I have it right I don't wanna mess anymore with it. Atleast not untill its empty and IO can properly work in there. The duct tape for putting up the plastic worked pretty good but when I switch to mylar im gonna use a glue of some sort, Cuz tape wares out eventully.

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Old Sep-25-2006, 10:09
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Well I woke up this morrning to a sad sight. My One big plant has turned Male on Me. And my other topped Plant seems tobe going that way as well. Im kinda discouraged. I need more seeds to start again. I still have one female but I left her in a smaller pot to see what pot size differences made in yeild. That was a bad one, I cut the bottom of her pot and placed her ina bigger one. I moved the one male out and left the other suspect male in. I am thinking about leaving them both in the cab to try and get some seeds sO i dont have to buy any more. Not sure how this will work out though. Its just a though. Since I only have one female I would rather have a buch of seeds instead of a bit of Bud

What do you guys think? Im sure sexing is a hard thing to do But I am gonna read some more on it then decide what to do.

Bottom line. 1st grow Nute Burn Killed all of em this gorw learned alot but got males. 3rd times a charm...hahahah im gonna go grab some more seeds again today and try try again... hmm I can't wait untill I have a house with some space to do a regular grow not a tiny Cabinet grow... ahh well. thats rnough out of me for today...

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Old Sep-25-2006, 10:49
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all you need to do is leave in the male for a few weeks( or until the balls open) then remove she will be pollinated but not to the point of swag
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Old Sep-25-2006, 11:25
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By "Swag" you mean be a full blown Seed giver?

When she is pollinated Do I get any weed or just a buch of seed sacs?


Thanks for the Help Ivision

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