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Old Oct-01-2008, 21:54
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so is there any way to make the final product harder? its kinda hard to work with and can be messy, i have a system and am very happy with it, but my oil stays in its pyrex dish til its gone, i smoke what i want, leave the rest to scrape another day. I cant figure out how to store it or make it more portable, u dig? i tried making "wafer" sorta things, freezin em, but they were still messy, and i dont want them in my freezer.

im wondering if my final product could be harder if my starting product was completely dry?? either way the stuffs great, i got a jar i will pour tommorow, and a couple days evaporatin later, some crazy good smokin.
Well... i noticed that when i let the weed soaking in the acetone for a long time (1-2 weeks), the final product is harder than when i let it soaking for only some days.
Anyway, you could add some powdered shake to it. The shake helps to harden the hash oil. If you add enough of it, you can even make it solid.
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Old Nov-26-2008, 15:36
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Hello Coelho, I was just wondering if using 14 grams of vaped weed and maybe adding some little extra amounts to it would yield at least a half gram of honey oil? I would like to use the Butane extraction with the PVC pipe draining into the Pyrex glasses but was also wondering if the isopropyl alcohol or butane extraction is more effective? I live in northern midwest and its getting somewhat cold out would this effect the butane if im doing it in weather outside around 32 Farenheit? I would love to hear some advice.
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The black paste you guys are getting from this type of solvent extraction is great but like the the guy said it's hard to smoke and "What the hell do you do with it?" -

Here's the Trick of All Tricks:

Make your black paste, then make some bubble hash or good hard cooked keif (you can use regular uncooked keif but your hash will be soft)

Then crumble the bubble hash up and slowly blend it with the oil in ratios that allow it to form a big black ball. eventually all the oil is worked into your ball of bubble hash and you get a big black chunk of black hash. Let it dry and and becomes hard as a rock and is way better to smoke than the oil by itself and can be handled and stored without "sticky loss".

This is what I do to get the most out of the herb. Instead of getting 15% extraction of bubble hash and throwing the rest out, I can get up to 50% of the weight of the original herb turn 1 lb of shake into 1/2lb of decent hash using the oil method.

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Old Nov-29-2008, 17:34
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Cool BE FUCKING CAREFUL!

Another tip is to BE FUCKING CAREFUL!

The Solvents you guys are talking about can ignite from an open flame several feet away. my buddy lit a bowl while he was standing next to me watching me do this and the whole fucking thing lit up like a damn Christmas tree!

Always work in a WELL VENTILATED AREA! Don't fuck around and get stone and burn you house down! I was lucky because I had fire safety and knew what to do, but my buddy would have run out of the house and watched it burn down. Then when the cops and fire dept. figure out how the fire started and what I was doing, guess who's fire insurance would not have paid for the damage?!

Instead of using acetone or some other nasty solvent, I use Everclear from the liquor store. it's more expensive but that doesn't matter. it won't hurt you as bad to breath it, doesn't smell as bad, and it's made for human consumption. You can also pour some in at the end of your solvent batch to "Clean" your final product. After you get most

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Another tip is to BE FUCKING CAREFUL!

The Solvents you guys are talking about can ignite from an open flame several feet away. my buddy lit a bowl while he was standing next to me watching me do this and the whole fucking thing lit up like a damn Christmas tree!

Always work in a WELL VENTILATED AREA! Don't fuck around and get stoned and burn your house down! I was lucky because I had fire safety and knew what to do, but my buddy would have run out of the house and watched it burn down. Then when the cops and fire dept. figure out how the fire started and what I was doing, guess who's fire insurance would not have paid for the damage?!

Instead of using acetone or some other nasty solvent, I use Everclear from the liquor store. it's more expensive but that doesn't matter. it won't hurt you as bad to breath it, doesn't smell as bad, and it's made for human consumption. You can also pour some in at the end of your solvent batch to "Clean" your final product. After you get most

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Old Nov-30-2008, 23:46
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Hello Coelho, I was just wondering if using 14 grams of vaped weed and maybe adding some little extra amounts to it would yield at least a half gram of honey oil?
Im almost sure yes, as the weight of hash oil i usually get is about 1/10th of the weight of the weed i start with.

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I would like to use the Butane extraction with the PVC pipe draining into the Pyrex glasses but was also wondering if the isopropyl alcohol or butane extraction is more effective?
Well... i dont know. I never did a sucessfull butane extraction (i tried it once but the weather here where i live is way too hot), so i cant compare it with the other solvents.

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I live in northern midwest and its getting somewhat cold out would this effect the butane if im doing it in weather outside around 32 Farenheit? I would love to hear some advice.
If i remember rightly, the butanes boiling point is around 40F, so it would take a lot of time to evaporate. It would help a lot the extraction process, as the weed would be soaking in the liquid butane for a longer time, allowing a more effective extraction.
I would suggest you to do the extraction outside, until you fill the pyrex glass with the liquid butane+oil, then go to a warmer place to evaporate it.
Just remember to evaporate it in a place far away from heat sources, sparks, flames, cigarretes, or anything that could ignite the butane fumes, as it is VERY flammable and could easily cause a fire or an explosion.
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i tried the butane extraction outside and it was cold as hell and out of all 14 grams of the vaporized weed i only got a few highs off of it because the layer was so thin it took forever for me to scrape it... i eventually rubbed joint papers over it and vaporized those which worked out quit well.

Because of my disappointment in the butane extraction i bought as ounce of some mids that encouraged me to try the isopropyl alcohol method. I am currently at the stage of slowly slowly waiting for the isopropyl alcohol to evaporate. If you happen to get with within the next few days could you tell me a safe method to speed the evaporation of the isopropyl. I have been putting in on a coffee machine to warm the liquid to speed up evap. a little.

Would putting boiling water around the glass container speed up significantly since i cant use any flames?

Appreciate the advice,

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Yes, putting boiling water around the solvent you want evaporate can make it way faster. When i make hash oil i put a wine glass with acetone (the solvent i use) into a pan with water, and heat it with an electric heater, so the water boils and heats the acetone. Doing so i can evaporate half glass of it (1-2 oz) in about 10 minutes.

How long did you let the weed soaking into the isopropyl alcohol? For making a good exctraction, which get the most of the weed, i must soak it in acetone for about one week. And the acetone dissolves the cannabis resins faster than the isopropyl alcohol, so for making a good extraction you should let it soaking for at least one week.
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hey i used boiling water to heat the isopropyl alcohol off and it worked very well. I boiled the water and then brought the water to a diff room where i set a glass container with the "stuff" in the water. A fan directed at the water by the window blew out the evaporated isopropyl alcohol.

I got a huge glob probably inbetween a half and full gram but i also have the weed soaking from the same batch that has been in the dark for about a week now. The liquid is just as dark if not darker that the other stuff haha.

How are your preferred ways of smoking it? For me a drop or two on some weed in my hotbox gets me pretty high. And for buying the ounce for 75 it turned out pretty nice.

Do you have any idea if the BHO extraction makes the honey taste different?
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best method to make oil is with butane PERIOD ...
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