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Thanks for your response Flameon. I get what your saying about the temp dropping when I stir/check except that the last time when I put the stuff back in to cook again I left the house and kept it going for a good 4-5hrs or so without opening it. If the temp dropping is the problem shouldn't those have worked?

I'm thinking I'll try the oven except that my regular oven is ancient (from the 60s-70s) and I doubt it gets to any temp that it is supposed to. Would a toaster oven be sufficient?

If I just wanted to make 2-3 pills to test it how much bud/oil would you recommend?

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Ah, in that case, it may be the other extreme that might be causing you a problem.
Here's a similar question and answer I gave earlier that might help:

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Hey flame great guide here, i especially like the small portion. I have a few questions though.
Id like to make a single dose and was wondering if you had any advice about making such a small amount and if you think it would be wasteful to make any smaller amount than you've suggested. Also could you confirm my measurements?

Here is my plan. Your recipe divided by 4 so 3.75g of coconut oil and about .5g of good bud. Ill use a slow cooker and because its such a small amount ill put the oil and ground up bud in a coffee mug inside the cooker set to low and cook it for at least 2 hours.

Also if time is not important is it possible to cook it to long? or the longer the better? Is there a time i should not exceed? And is a coffee grinder effective or would i loose to many "goodies" the techranomes or whatever.?

Thanks a lot, and your advice will be greatly appreciated.
Hi Alotsa, and good question

Assuming your confident about the THC content of your bud, 0.5 of a gram is fine (it's a good way to get the technique down without risking too much weed). As for cooking, the trick is getting the crock pot or cooker hot enough to melt the resin, but not so hot that it damages or degrades the potency of the weed.
Again, if your happy your 'hitting' the right temperature range don't 'overcook it' two or three hours is fine, but I have some reservations about going too much further beyond that, as some anecdotal evidence suggests it may weaken potency.
A coffee grinder is fine, also, someone in another thread mentioned using a pestle and mortar which I hadn't thought of before, and sounds like a good suggestion.


The toasting oven might not be a bad idea (but do watch out for a strong smell after the first hour, you may need to regulate it up or down as needed), the above advice was given in respect of using 'good bud', if your a bit dubious about the potency of what your using (regs, I think you said) you might want to increase it to 0.7 or 0.8.

I'll keep my fingers crossed for you.
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Thanks again for your reply Flameon.

I only let it cook for the extended time period once, and those were pills that didn't work so I squeezed them out and recooked (as I saw you suggest to someone previously) them with a little more oil/bud.

I'll try a single batch in the toaster oven with some mids tomorrow and see what happens.

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p.s. I forgot to ask earlier, but your weed is cured and dry I take it?
If not, give it 15 minutes in the oven first before you cut/powder/grind it up. Same temperature.
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p.s. I forgot to ask earlier, but your weed is cured and dry I take it?
If not, give it 15 minutes in the oven first before you cut/powder/grind it up. Same temperature.
I just threw in a small batch using .7g of mids and just under a tsp of coconut oil. It looked to be just about a 50/50 mix.

I took your advice and put the bud in the oven first. I also threw in a tiny nug to smoke to see if I noticed any difference. It was really dried by this point so it wasn't the best for smoking but I can say that I can feel a notable difference. (After 3 hits the helicopter passing by sounds like its in my bedroom.) It was also so much easier to grind (I don't have a coffee grinder). I used my cheapy plastic grinder and then ran a knife through it a couple of times. It was the finest I've ever gotten it, looked like a fine powder with a few tiny pieces thrown in.

I used the toaster oven this time, set at 250F. After melting the oil (before throwing the bud) I checked the temp of the oil and it was @ about 198F. I'm going to check it at 30 mins and then let it be from there.

I'm hoping this batch works. I have a good feeling (maybe because I'm high.)

Also, I was planning to make 3 caps with this and take them all later tonight. Do you think that would be good or should I only take two?

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an update on the high/low experiment -- it doesnt seem to have worked as well as simply cooking on high for 2 hours did. well, to be fair, i went back to bud this time... so, one final experiment: bud on high for two hours. this should remove the possibility that kief was what made the capsules work last time (i really really hope it does lol).

after i get this working, ill start messing around with using duff and let you all know if i get any tangible results.

oh, and edit for clarification-- high/low batch: 1 capsule had me lightheaded for like an hour... 2 had me feeling somewhat high but a friend felt nothing... 3 this morning had me feeling good for about 3 or 4 hours... so not a complete failure, but not the resounding success of my last batch.

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I just threw in a small batch using .7g of mids and just under a tsp of coconut oil. It looked to be just about a 50/50 mix.

I took your advice and put the bud in the oven first. I also threw in a tiny nug to smoke to see if I noticed any difference. It was really dried by this point so it wasn't the best for smoking but I can say that I can feel a notable difference. (After 3 hits the helicopter passing by sounds like its in my bedroom.) It was also so much easier to grind (I don't have a coffee grinder). I used my cheapy plastic grinder and then ran a knife through it a couple of times. It was the finest I've ever gotten it, looked like a fine powder with a few tiny pieces thrown in.

I used the toaster oven this time, set at 250F. After melting the oil (before throwing the bud) I checked the temp of the oil and it was @ about 198F. I'm going to check it at 30 mins and then let it be from there.

I'm hoping this batch works. I have a good feeling (maybe because I'm high.)

Also, I was planning to make 3 caps with this and take them all later tonight. Do you think that would be good or should I only take two?


It ended up making 4 caps filled to the brim. 2 weighed at 1.2g each, and the other 2 at 1.1g each. Anyone have suggestion on how many I should take? I plan to take them at the rink after my hockey practice (Ahh I love the stealthiness). I'm going to stay and watch the game after and should be home about 1hr 20 minutes after taking them. I hope to spend the rest of the night on the couch.

I checked the temp after 45 minutes and it was at 219. I checked it again when I took it out after the 2 hrs and the temp was 235F. I'm hoping heat was the issue as I never recorded anything over 195F in the crockpot.
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I would suggest that you take 1, wait for 90 minutes to see how it affects you, then take another at the 2 hour mark if you are not feeling it enough.

My GF took 1 of the capsules I made from 1/8 mids and she felt good for several hours. The 1/8 mids made 24 capsules.

Doing the math:

3.5 gr = 24 capsules
3.5 gr /24 caps = .146 gr/cap

In your situation:

.7 gr = 4 caps
.7 gr / 4 caps = .175 gr/cap

I would not take more than 2 at any time, unless you have a lot of experience with edibles. Be sure to come back and post your story of what happened. Good luck and have fun!
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I ended up taking two as soon as my hockey practice was done (6pm). I ate a granola bar with it. I didn't really eat much today and after a hockey workout I'm starving. I'm trying my hardest not to mow down.

It's now 20 after 7 and I've got a pretty sweet high going. My boyfriend and his friend each took 1. I walked in the door and they both looked up and me and said "I'm high!"
My bf's friend is an everyday smoker and about 280lbs. He said one or two more and he would be blazed beyond belief.

I'm super happy that it finally worked. Thanks for your help flame and mvp!
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This post is awesome :> Great, intuitive and informative work, buddy!
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So it turned out to be a great night. By 12 I couldn't keep my eyes open any longer and hit the sack. I had a steady high going all night. I ate dinner @ about 9 (stuffed shells..yum) and shortly after my high got better. It wasnt as much as a couch lock as I expected but it was pleasant none the less. Two gave me a long pleasant high. I think next time that I don't have anything going on the next morning I will take 3, I like to be truly blazed.

I'll be cooking up another batch today!
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i was just wondering some stuff

i dont have a balance so is there any other way to calculate the weight of oil i had??
i know this question is kind of stupid but still..


I'm interested giving a try with a quato and even an ounce but i would like to know if i need to add more cooking time when cooking with bigger quantity...

So far, i've brought the capsule, i have the crock pot, i got stach but i cannot find the coconut oil stuff at the grocery. So could you tell me how to make ghee...just to be sure...


ty a lot in advance!
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This is fantastic. I have a mini crock pot for dips and it's roughly the size of a coffe cup and i'm starting a batch now. i'll keeep y'all posted on my trials and......
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Guys, I just wanted to say a big, big thank you to all the people who've taken the time to give this method a try and then post up their experiences, especially to those guys who've stuck with it despite running into problems on their first attempts.

It's mostly down to your hard work (and persistence) that we've managed to create a really comprehensive guide, including some excellent 'troubleshooting' advice and information.

I don't think I expected this thread to attract much attention, especially as it involves a fair bit of preparation and ingredients etc. But, thanks to some really 'pioneering' work from a number of you guys, it's really taken off and you've shown just how possible it is to get really great results from small quantities of weed.

Great job and cheers!

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simplesmok, nice work!
Getting enough 'product' from less than three quarters of a gram (0.7 g), to get three people high, just shows how well you've cracked the technique (from 'mids' too!).

tjcioffe, keep up the good work and let me know how you get on, I'm especially interested to hear if you get 'duff' working for you.

MVP - You are my ambassador of quan man! Thanks.

SmAsH, a level teaspoon equals about 5ml if that helps. Also, don't worry about cooking larger amounts for longer, assuming your hitting the right temperature, 2 or 3 hours should be fine. Although, I would suggest you start off with a smaller amount at first until your sure your crock pot/oven is doing 'it's thing' correctly.

b0n3ZA & PlantHeadJ, thanks for the kind words and welcome to the party, let us know how you get on and feel free to post up any questions.

Thanks again guys and cheers
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To make Ghee just take a stick or two of regular butter (preferably unsalted), and gently heat in a pan.
Once melted the butter will start to froth (from the milk, water and other impurities), just skim off the froth with a spoon until your left with a clear golden oil.

When you take the pan off the heat the oil will set just like regular butter, but will keep for a couple of years assuming you store it in the fridge.
Just use when needed.
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I filled the capsuls with the oil and a little bit of the gunk that was left over in the bottem of the coffe cup that i used, i took 1 and nouthing happend so i took some more(6 in total) after 2 hours of feeling nouthing but a little light headdness, i did everything u said to do unless i was supposta put the gunk in with the oil, please let me know. I havnt givin up ether i will continue to try this untill i get it right!


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This is fantastic. I have a mini crock pot for dips and it's roughly the size of a coffe cup and i'm starting a batch now. i'll keeep y'all posted on my trials and......
You might want to put some water in there and see what temperature it reaches before cooking your weed. I have a suspicion that the mini crock-pot might not get hot enough to effectively extract the psychoactives.
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You might want to put some water in there and see what temperature it reaches before cooking your weed. I have a suspicion that the mini crock-pot might not get hot enough to effectively extract the psychoactives.
I had a little crock pot that came with my big crock pot, and I had thought the same thing as he did. But when I checked online, at least my version, was only meant to keep things warm, it didnt reach anywhere near the proper temps for using for this, sadly.
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For what its worth...

The first time I took these caps was right after an intense hockey practice. I think this must have kicked up my metabolism because the caps hit me in about an hour. I took some tonight, after a day of sitting in classes, and they took over 2hr 15min to kick in.

Just a thought for anyone trying to get them to kick in faster, try upping activity or working out before taking them. I could be totally off but it's worth a shot I guess.
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