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Just to be sure...
I could ask my mom about it just to be positive. Last time she came to visit I showed her my MMJ card and then showed off my garden as well
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good shit
I tried this real quick. i ground up bout a g and threw it in with reg butter in my slow cooker, didn’t watch it much just played halo and stirred it every once and a while. Left it in for a good 2 1/2 hrs. I just used old pills I had for something along time ago and emptied them out. This worked great. 1 teaspoon of butter and 1 g made 10 pills. i took 3 the first time and felt a good buzz. I took 4 at work the next day and was good and messed up for about 4-6 hrs made work and class go by fast......they took about 2-3 hrs to kick in. gave the last 3 to my boss because he thought it was all in my head. In about 3 hrs he changed his mind. The whole thing was a great experience.
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need help! first grow
How do I start my own thread thing? I dont have alot of money so I am trying to go with the cheapest setup that will still be successful. i just started 2 plants, they are about 3 days in and have sprouted but i dont know if i have enough light. I have a 75 watt fluorescent tube that im using but im not sure this is enough. any suggestions on what to use that isnt very expensive that will still be good? i was thinking about buying two CFLs (one for each plant) would that be enough light or would i still need more?
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OK OK...WH, MVP you guys and doughboy over here in my head all day have convinced me.. Im gonna try this, Ive cooked fresh bud for cannabutter every harvest for years, but never in a crockpot with dry nug and butter.....just to get it straight... tblsp of butter per gram of dry ground bud. 2 1/2 hrs at around 210 deg? is this right?

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this should be fun, cause after as many years as Ive been smokin, i got bonglung...lol and the vape is too time consuming.
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OK OK...WH, MVP you guys and doughboy over here in my head all day have convinced me.. Im gonna try this, Ive cooked fresh bud for cannabutter every harvest for years, but never in a crockpot with dry nug and butter.....just to get it straight... tblsp of butter per gram of dry ground bud. 2 1/2 hrs at around 210 deg? is this right?

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this should be fun, cause after as many years as Ive been smokin, i got bonglung...lol and the vape is too time consuming.
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Pretty close, but 1 gram of bud to 1 TEASPOON (not tablespoon) of butter, or preferably coconut oil. Heating the oil first, and then adding the herb is a good idea. Here is the link to my post showing how to make 2 dozen capsules with an 1/8 and 1 Tablespoon.
Making Two Dozen Caps w/ 1/8 herb + 1 TBSP Oil
Have fun and post back your results!
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ty MVP....will post results as soon as we do em. Actually me and doughboy will post 3-4 hrs after taking em...lol gonna use your eighth recipe.....

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ok, I'm trying this for my first time.
I've measured the temperature on the crockpot, and it's stayed at about 250 degrees f
it's been about an hour, but the mixture isn't super dark green (I used .5g's of dank to 1 teaspoon of ghee)
it's light to medium green, and the herb doesn't cover the whole surface of the container I'm cooking it in (a small bowl, 3 inches in diameter, 2 inches high).
should everything work fine?
2 hours of cooking, let it cool, freeze the substance, and put into capsules correct?
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hey all, just checking back in.
the last few experiments i did were not big success stories with trying to add duff to the mixture and whatnot... inspired by flame's oven thermometer and whoever (i think it was weedhound) said to cook for 4 hours, i bought myself a oven thermometer (thanks martha stewart! =P) and found out that my crockpot stays between 200-225F on low, but takes FOREVER to heat up. armed with this new knowledge, i let it fully heat up before throwing in my mixture, and then baked for 3 and a half hours.
1 pill was a nice buzz, 2 got me pretty stoned, and im going to give 3 a try tonite when im done working out. All in all, I'd say i've finally achieved success, so thanks for all the pointers guys.
I'm currently making a batch with 4.5 teaspoons of oil and 4.5 grams of headies (funny how the teaspoons and grams are equal when you use bud for this method... makes it very easy to figure out how to scale it lol)... i have a ski trip up in vermont with 9 of my friends this weekend so i figure bringing 36 pills should make for a very fun and interesting trip =)
thanks again for all the help guys, and ill let you know if i ever try the duff method again (i may just save my duff for more traditional baking... =P)
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First I'd like to thank Flame for his continued support of this thread.
I have some questions for you Flame, that I'm dying to know.
In the original instructions, and throughout the thread, your advice has been to keep the temperature in the 180F to 230F range. However, in post 269, you had bought a thermometer and found out exactly what temperatures your crockpot was giving for each setting.
Ok, so here's my questions.
1) At what setting had you been using before measuring the temperature?
Whatever it was, you were getting outstanding results. Your original post suggests setting the crockpot on low, which turned out to be 250F when you measured it.
2) After measuring the temp, did you change the setting you were using?
3) If so, why? If it's not broken, don't fix it right?
It would make more sense to change your opinion on the temperature than it would to change the setting if the results you were getting at that temperature were outstanding.
4) If you did change it, how did that affect the final product?
Did you get better results when you moderated the temperature down to what you THOUGHT it should be?
5) Why use a crockpot?
It seems clear that a lot of people who have tried this have had wildly different results with crockpots and, in some cases, uneven distribution of heat within the pot.
6) Why not use an oven?
This question is really just 5) continued. I have used a thermometer to see if the temperature reported by my oven is accurate and it was spot on. Intuition tells me that the temperature distribution in an oven would probably be more stable due to the larger size. In other words, you have less chance for temperature variances based on localized heating (being closer or farther away from the heat source).
7) Assuming that you are working with very dry bud, approximately how much bud is in one tablespoon? Would you say that is about one gram?
I don't have a digital scale, and even if I did, the weight varies with the water content of the bud. Either way, how much oil would you suggest using for one tablespoon of bud? (based on the previous posts I would guess 1 tablespoon or maybe 1.2 tablespoons max)
Ok, enough questions for now. As for my experiences so far, I will admit that I haven't tried much. I have made firecrackers twice. The first time, I ate only one cracker with extremely mild effects...almost nothing really, just pleasant. The second time I ate two and felt great, but not the overpowering high everyone talks about.
Here is my main problem with firecrackers. I put about as much weed on one cracker as you can fit without spilling over. I'm guessing that it amounts to at least .5g if not more like .75. I felt good eating a total of 1g to 1.5g, but if I had vaped that same amount, I would be hurled into the next dimension.
I can fill my vaporizer approximately 25-30 times with a 1/4 ounce and get annihilated EVERY TIME. So, that would mean that .25g contains enough THC for this effect.
So, you can imagine that I am extremely UNHAPPY using 4 to 6 times the weed and not getting the same results! This is why I'm hoping that I can make your method work and get back to the same results with the same ratio I'm using in the vaporizer. I have one weak lung and even the vaporizer irritates it.
I had much better results with the second batch than the first and I achieved this by increasing the temps and time. The first batch was 320F for 22 minutes. The second was 325F for 30 minutes.
I believe that if I went down to 230F, in the range that you suggest, absolutely nothing would have happened. Perhaps that is because of the short time frame. However, the things that still confuses me is the opinion that temps above 300 will kill off the THC. In my case, I don't think 300 would have been enough. It could be that, in the short time frame, some is vaped off and the rest is retained. I'm curious on your thoughts about this.
So, I will be trying your method in the next week or so. Here are the parameters I'm using.
1) 1 tablespoon of bud, ground to a fine powder with an electric coffee grinder.
2) 1.2 tablespoons of ghee or coconut oil, whichever I can get. (Hopefully ghee)
3) Pre-heat oven to 250F, verified with a thermometer.
4) Add oil to a small ceramic cup with a ceramic lid and wait for it to reach 250F.
5) Add weed to cup and mix.
7) Cook 1 hour and stir.
8) Cook another 1 hour and stir.
9) Cook another 30 minutes and remove.
If the results match the results of my vaporizer, this should be enough to get 4 people high as a kite for hours. I will report back the results, though I am curious to hear any opinions on my plans.
Thanks,
Moby
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I can tell you from my own personal experience cooking with a thermometer that 300 degrees is too high.....I've done it several different ways. Keep your temps between 200-250 imo and the longer you can cook it the better.
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I can tell you from my own personal experience cooking with a thermometer that 300 degrees is too high.....I've done it several different ways. Keep your temps between 200-250 imo and the longer you can cook it the better.
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I've seen people say 4 hours is too long and seen others say the longer the better. I'm assuming that you've found a method that works for you, so how long do you cook it? If it didn't matter to you how long it took, how long would you let it cook? I would assume that there is a limit. Obviously cooking for 10 days isn't going to do you any good.
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i'm wondering why not use a double boiler, stovetop style?
seems to me, if u use a thermometer in the water of the outer boiler, get it to the exact temp u want with the flame regulated, it would stay that temp until the water evaporates. in which case, i would have another pot of water, preheated to replace whats evaporating
given the apparent fluctuations that exist in different crock pots and ovens in general, this is the method i plan on employing as soon as i have the nugs/keef to work with.
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This worked great. 1 teaspoon of butter and 1 g made 10 pills. i took 3 the first time and felt a good buzz. I took 4 at work the next day and was good and messed up for about 4-6 hrs made work and class go by fast......they took about 2-3 hrs to kick in. gave the last 3 to my boss because he thought it was all in my head. In about 3 hrs he changed his mind. The whole thing was a great experience.
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Nice job spector, glad to hear they worked out for you!
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Pretty close, but 1 gram of bud to 1 TEASPOON (not tablespoon) of butter, or preferably coconut oil. Heating the oil first, and then adding the herb is a good idea. Here is the link to my post showing how to make 2 dozen capsules with an 1/8 and 1 Tablespoon.
Making Two Dozen Caps w/ 1/8 herb + 1 TBSP Oil
Have fun and post back your results!
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Hi MVP, as always, you are my ambassador of 'Quon'! Thanks.
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ok, I'm trying this for my first time.
I've measured the temperature on the crockpot, and it's stayed at about 250 degrees f
it's been about an hour, but the mixture isn't super dark green (I used .5g's of dank to 1 teaspoon of ghee)
it's light to medium green, and the herb doesn't cover the whole surface of the container I'm cooking it in (a small bowl, 3 inches in diameter, 2 inches high).
should everything work fine?
2 hours of cooking, let it cool, freeze the substance, and put into capsules correct?
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Hi mbizzle
The temps sound fine, although 0.5 of a gram is not going to fill too many capsules. How many were you planning on making?
Also, I'm not sure why you're going to freeze the mix before putting it into the capsules.
You'll find them easier to fill while the oil/butter is still in liquid form (room temperature).
You can freeze or keep them in the fridge afterwards.
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Hi mobyone, and wecome to the Forums
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I have some questions for you Flame, that I'm dying to know.
1) At what setting had you been using before measuring the temperature?
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I'd been experimenting with two different 'crock pots' (and the double broiler method), to see what different strengths could be achieved using similar amounts of bud and hash, and what (if any) differences I saw in their effects, but mostly it was on 'low'.
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2) After measuring the temp, did you change the setting you were using?
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No. I tried a couple of batches on 'high' in the second 'crock pot' (the larger one in the pictures with the black bowl), but found that the strength was less than I was getting on low.
I suspected as much, due to both the smell, and of course the potency of the capsules. This was confirmed later when I checked using a thermometer.
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3) If so, why? If it's not broken, don't fix it right?
It would make more sense to change your opinion on the temperature than it would to change the setting if the results you were getting at that temperature were outstanding.
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True. I was just 'tinkering' to see what (if any) improvements I could find.
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4) If you did change it, how did that affect the final product?
Did you get better results when you moderated the temperature down to what you THOUGHT it should be?
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Yes. In my experience the three critical factors are: the quality and consistency of the bud used, the amount of cooking time, and the temperature. Bearing in mind that the process isn't quick, if your 'over-cooking' the bud at too high a temperature (even if it's only 10 or 20 degrees) its going to have a detrimental effect on the overall potency.
For example, if you cooked a pizza at 190 degrees instead of 180 for 12 minutes its not going to make too much difference to the end product, but extend that to three hours... well you see what I mean.
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5) Why use a crockpot?
It seems clear that a lot of people who have tried this have had wildly different results with crockpots and, in some cases, uneven distribution of heat within the pot.
6) Why not use an oven?
This question is really just 5) continued. I have used a thermometer to see if the temperature reported by my oven is accurate and it was spot on. Intuition tells me that the temperature distribution in an oven would probably be more stable due to the larger size. In other words, you have less chance for temperature variances based on localized heating (being closer or farther away from the heat source).
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In theory I would tend to agree, however, the chances of inconsistent temperature ranges is as great (perhaps even greater) using conventional ovens.
The differences between Make and Model, age, whether they are Gas or Electric, fan assisted, etc all mean that they too are subject to unpredictability. The reason behind the choice of 'crock pot' was based on the typical operating ranges they are supposed to run at.
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7) Assuming that you are working with very dry bud, approximately how much bud is in one tablespoon? Would you say that is about one gram?
I don't have a digital scale, and even if I did, the weight varies with the water content of the bud. Either way, how much oil would you suggest using for one tablespoon of bud? (based on the previous posts I would guess 1 tablespoon or maybe 1.2 tablespoons max)
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I'm hoping Weedhound will help me out on this one, as I use digital scales and a small tray, however it sounds about right.
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So, I will be trying your method in the next week or so. Here are the parameters I'm using.
1) 1 tablespoon of bud, ground to a fine powder with an electric coffee grinder.
2) 1.2 tablespoons of ghee or coconut oil, whichever I can get. (Hopefully ghee)
3) Pre-heat oven to 250F, verified with a thermometer.
4) Add oil to a small ceramic cup with a ceramic lid and wait for it to reach 250F.
5) Add weed to cup and mix.
7) Cook 1 hour and stir.
8) Cook another 1 hour and stir.
9) Cook another 30 minutes and remove.
If the results match the results of my vaporizer, this should be enough to get 4 people high as a kite for hours. I will report back the results, though I am curious to hear any opinions on my plans.
Thanks,
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Sounds good to me, will you be using capsules or 'setting' the oil/ghee and dividing it up into portions?
Good luck and let us know how you get on.
Cheers
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i'm wondering why not use a double boiler, stovetop style?
seems to me, if u use a thermometer in the water of the outer boiler, get it to the exact temp u want with the flame regulated, it would stay that temp until the water evaporates. in which case, i would have another pot of water, preheated to replace whats evaporating
given the apparent fluctuations that exist in different crock pots and ovens in general, this is the method i plan on employing as soon as i have the nugs/keef to work with.
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The beauty of the double boiler method is you cant 'overcook' the weed (the boiling point of water prevents you getting over 100 C), however, it also means it is possible to 'under' cook it (as some people have experienced).
You need the temperature to be as close to boiling as you can consistently keep it (it also requires a bit more work, you need to watch it, regulate the flame up and down, and make sure it doesn't boil dry), otherwise the THC won't dissolve into the oli/ghee.
Its a technique that some people have struggled with, but as long as you're aware of the 'do's and don't's, you should be rocking and rolling.
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The beauty of the double boiler method is you cant 'overcook' the weed (the boiling point of water prevents you getting over 100 C), however, it also means it is possible to 'under' cook it (as some people have experienced).
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