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Hey Flame...

Ok...ive tried it....twice. Unfortunately I simply cannot get around the capsule filling part. The first time I tried using a syringe to draw up the oil part and ended up spilling ALL the oil and lost it....so made capsules from the residue that was left. So far.....a nice head high, not much body high but I can't make a true judgement from them based on my doing it incorrectly.

The second time the oily paste did something to the capsules so that they not only ended up too greasy for the tops to stay on but the oil also created some sort of suction to the capsules so I couldn't get the pieces out at ALL. I lost the entire batch AND my capsule machine which is now full of gooey crud and stuck capsules.

Flame....I love you man. But without another way to store and take these things I'm afraid 3 grams of good bud and a capsule machine is all I'm willing to sacrifice here.

I'm VERY bummed that I'm so stupid I can't get this figured out but I suppose it's par for (my) course. I've thought about putting it on a plate like you said but after 5 hours of cooking I just don't even want to think about it anymore.

Sorry I blew it.....

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well weedhound, where you have failed others will succeed. dont be bummed that it didnt work for you, someone soon will have done it successfully and might know the answer to your problems. this friday i plan to go buy the coconut oil and look for the gel caps and machine and all, and will possibly have tried this by either sat or sun, or possibly later based on my search for the gel caps and machine >_>. once ive tried it ill see how it will turn out and if i am successful, ill post on here what i did and how it worked, and if i fail, it will just be another idea to future participants of this quest on how not to do it. i love this tutorial and plan to rep many times in the future . thank you for the great tutorial!
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Hey Flame...

Ok...ive tried it....twice. Unfortunately I simply cannot get around the capsule filling part. The first time I tried using a syringe to draw up the oil part and ended up spilling ALL the oil and lost it....so made capsules from the residue that was left. So far.....a nice head high, not much body high but I can't make a true judgement from them based on my doing it incorrectly.

The second time the oily paste did something to the capsules so that they not only ended up too greasy for the tops to stay on but the oil also created some sort of suction to the capsules so I couldn't get the pieces out at ALL. I lost the entire batch AND my capsule machine which is now full of gooey crud and stuck capsules.

Flame....I love you man. But without another way to store and take these things I'm afraid 3 grams of good bud and a capsule machine is all I'm willing to sacrifice here.

I'm VERY bummed that I'm so stupid I can't get this figured out but I suppose it's par for (my) course. I've thought about putting it on a plate like you said but after 5 hours of cooking I just don't even want to think about it anymore.

Sorry I blew it.....
Oh man, I'm gutted for you weedhound, absolutely GUTTED!

Firstly, next time your in the UK (or Amsterdam when I'm there), I'll personally replace your weed, and that's a promise.

Secondly, don't be discouraged. One thing that's come out of it (for me anyhow) is that we've now learned that the residue should be kept and used. So at the very least you can be congratulated for pioneering that discovery.

Thirdly, I'm going to thoroughly troubleshoot this part of the process so hopefully nobody else will come 'unstuck'.

OK, here goes:

1st Method

Part of the reason for using an egg cup (or small coffee cup etc) to simmer the oil is because the narrow shape means that the oil is a centimetre or two deep with the residue on the bottom.
If the cup is wide you only get a few millimetres depth, and when you try to syphon the oil up in a syringe it blocks with the residue.

When syphoning up, I just barely dip the nozzle in a couple of millimeters and start drawing up the oil, when you get near the bottom it may stick, if it does, squeeze a little oil back in the cup and keep trying. You'll always be left with some that will need to be carefully scraped out.

N.B. The diameter of the 00 capsules is about 7mm so the size of the handle on your coffee stirrer (or whatever your using) needs to be smaller than that so you can dip it straight into the capsule without touching the sides. One of the ideal scrapers that most people will have in their houses is a pen top (see picture) the shape is ideal for scooping up small amounts of oil and residue and tipping it in.


2nd (Alternative) Method

OK, this part is for people who want to try a COMPLETELY different approach. Instead of trying to 'suck up' the oil with a syringe and medicine dropper, you can use a variation of a cake decorating method, whereby you simply pour your (cool, but still liquid) oil into a piping bag and gently squeeze it out through a VERY FINE nozzle* (see pictures).

I've included a variety of pictures to give you an idea of what I'm talking about.
N.B.The critical thing to remember is to go for one with a very narrow nozzle. You don't want your oil running or dripping out before your ready when you pick up the bag, and you need the nozzle to fit inside the capsules so it doesn't go everywhere when you gently squeeze the oil out and into the capsules.
You could put a little sellotape on the end and make a small-ish hole in it with a pin if the nozzle seems to big.

The price of these things run from about $2 up to about $20 (£10) for the 'all-singing-all-dancing' varieties.

D.I.Y Method

If you want to try making your own capsule filling device, take a large-ish 'baggie' or other small plastic bag, pour in your oil, and when your ready to start filling, make a small 'nick' in the corner and carefully squeeze out the contents into your capsules.

I hope this makes sense, I'll try filming the process and posting up the video at a later date if people might find it helpful.


P.S. weedhound, to get the (now solidified) oil off your capsule holder and syringe, use hot soapy water (washing up liquid works for me!).

p.p.s. Was your oil still too warm for the capsules when you put it in?
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Morning Flame,

First...you are to be completely congratulated on your dedication to this.

Ok.....I gave it one more try but havent' eaten them yet. No capsule machine so I put the stuff on a plate and it dried BEAUTIFULLY. I completely underestimated how hard (and how PLIABLE (sp?)) the coconut oil would be,.......the stuff is sort of like PLAYDOH
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I will definitely add here....if you can't make the capsule DONT WORRY if you have the coconut oil. It's hard to explain but it holds together excellently when cool....nothing to even SPILL when hardened. I'm sure it would melt if not kept in the fridge (or in a capsule the way you are supposed to) but seriously it worked just fine.

I just took my first one....easy to swallow (same size as a pill) and no taste. I cooked these on the high setting of my crockpot for 2 hours.....will let you know how they do.

Thanks again for all your help Flame.

I shall re-report soon.
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I'm keeping my fingers crossed for you.

Yeah, the Coconut oil out of the fridge is almost as hard as a bar of chocolate, and tastes and smells pretty good.
My experience is you'll start to feel it in about an hour and a half, it'll then get progressively stronger (in waves) till you peak about three-ish hour after that (about 5 hours after swallowing), with the 'come down' lasting another three-ish hours.

Hey, keep us updated
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Howdy,

Ok....I've taken two and feel a pretty mellow buzz but not as couchlock as this stuff usually does me (white rhino). I consider that a plus as the rhino will normally drop my jaw to the floor and leave it there next to my ass on the couch. Nothing along the way of bizarreness.....but a very nice feeling of mellow. I'm about 4 hrs in right now.

Flame....I've eaten mj for quite a while....probably a couple of grams a day sometimes on days off but cooked the way I did in my recipe. . I'm going to make some more of them today (!) but how many do you think would cross the line for me? I just took a third one....(they're really cute little blobs on a plate) so we'll see..... I'm really afraid of taking too many and getting sucked into the tv or something

I have to call success here.....nice and relaxing imo with an edge towards daydreaminess.... The REALLY impressive part is the fact that I am using such small amounts of ganja to accomplish the buzz.

I will return and give another report later......

This coconut oil is COOL STUFF!!
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The REALLY impressive part is the fact that I am using such small amounts of ganja to accomplish the buzz.

I will return and give another report later......

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Glad you were able to crack it.

Quantities can be a bit tricky, I took three of my current batch on Saturday at 6pm and was still wide awake and tripping at 5am the next day (almost 12 hour later)!!! Whereas, sometimes they're wearing off in the early hours 1 or 2am in the morning (8 or 9 hours later). It's all down to the quality of bud/hash/kief.

I made some using good nederhash a month back that I took on Sunday eve that had me high until Monday lunch time. I had to get someone to drive me to work, where I just stared into space for the first two hours.

You know you've really cracked it when a cup of coffee the next day triggers a relapse.

One last tip, I find that if I have something to eat at around the point I'm starting to come down, about an hour later I'm right back up again at the peak for another hour or so.

Hey, looking forward to reading the full report.
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You mentioned hash and keif being more predictable than bud....do you usually use hash yourself?
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You mentioned hash and keif being more predictable than bud....do you usually use hash yourself?
Just lately, because I've been waiting to harvest my own plant, and so haven't bought any bud recently.

The reason for mentioning that hash and kief are 'more predictable' is purely down to the wider percentage margins of THC content found in different types of bud (everything from 5% to 20% - depending on strain and source).

So, for example someone making capsules using mid grade is going to need to take 'roughly' two capsules to get the same effect as someone who takes one made from good bud.

As a rule of thumb though, the THC content of 1 gram of kief/hash is the equivalent to that of 1.5 grams of good bud (once the stems, pointed leaves etc are removed). So, hopefully, the capsules will be as uniform in potency as possible regardless of what they're made from.

So far, my own results have been pretty similar using all three (though I have found the oil made from hash easier to fill the capsules with - less residue).

How's the experience been for you so far?
I hope its gone well!
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Hi Flame,

Well...I've had 5 pills total over 7 hours and I'm pretty much where I want to be. The amount of high for the amount of bud used is AMAZING.......probably about 1/5 of the amount to get to about the same place as I usually need BUT with a somewhat less physical drag on the body (but still a NICE body stone) That alone is extremely impressive to me......BUT the easy cooking, storing etc are NOTHING to sneer at either.

I'm right about at the place in my mind that is perfect for me....very relaxed but not STUPID with a fair amount of body stone and (if not poked at) most likely drifting off with a smile. This is EXACTLY what I was looking for....so HUGE THANKS to Flame for making this very doable recipe.

These will definitely be my method of choice from now on...could NOT be easier to cook with that crockpot method and I'm pretty sure my next batch (on low) will be more head and less body which is a pretty damn cool selection for only one type of weed.

I've been careful with the amounts I took....waiting for the effect before taking more (as I have made THAT mistake in the past....) but I can EASILY see that if you took enough you could get P-R-E-T-T-Y stoned off these babies so DO take Flame's good advice and go easy.

GREAT JOB Flame!!!!!
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Weedhound, thank you so much!

I'm so glad they're working well for you.
I too was very surprised at how strong you could make these things out of just a little bud. Over the last ten years I must have tried virtually every space cake type thing going (I could write a book on the commercial ones available in Amsterdam lol), but so far, not much gets anywhere near the 'bang for the buck' I've had out of these things.

I'll look forward to swapping tips with you.
Hey, let me know if you try a four hour simmer, as that's something I need to experiment with myself.
Thanks again and cheers
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cheers to that!

ive gotta get me some hash now! and some capsules! and some oil! and some....wow....

...guess ill smoke some hash while i wait for the ebay delivery truck....lol
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