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That's a bummer. I got to where I was using several grams a day (eating it....my lungs are too shot for smoking) so going to the capsules cut me back big time. I can get to where I want all day for a third of the ganja I was using before. It's made a big difference for me.

Well when you do have a surplus....try going with a few more capsules I think you really WILL like the results.
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I'm jealous, OZO. Even that last batch of ours that we were so excited about didn't end up working. We really don't know what the problem is, but because we have lost so much pot to this already, we're going to have to take a break from trying. We may try again sometime since we still have all of this coconut oil and capsules and such, but it might not be for a while.

We have tried to replicate everything that the directions say, and even after 2 revisions, it still didn't click, so we don't know what to do. If there are any suggestions or anything, we could keep them in mind for next time, whenever that might be. Sad
Well niltrog I am not an everyday smoker (more like 2-3 times a week) but one of my friends who took the capsules is and he was stoned as hell.

The weed I used was the BEST weed I have ever grown and maybe the best I have ever had. It was power plant, which is a commercial producer, but it turned out better than any strain I have tried. I said I used about 2.6 grams but I did not weigh the second batch so it could have been a little more I guess.

One more thing: I don’t really have the time to sit and watch these things cook so I left the mixture cooking in my crock-pot all night (almost 10 hours) maybe this helped.
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Cool guide, I like it. One question though - how long does the entire process take to make a handful of pills?
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Talking Making it Simple......

Here we go fellas, I am gonna make it simple for all of you out there that wanna try this out. Flameon is a total stud for going thru the effort and stress of keeping the thread alive and going strong.

Give Flameon major rep for all that he has done here for the CannCom community...

Here is what a typical MMJ patient or stoner needs:

1/8 of good weed
1 tablespoon of Coconut Oil (which = 14 grams of oil)
3 hours of time
1 Cannabis Grinder (some know it as a coffee bean grinder)
1 bag of 00 size gelatin capsules
1 crock pot
1 coffee cup
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expected results = 24 Canna Caps

BTW, I made mine with homegrow Blueberry..... yum!!

Overview:
20-30 minutes prep time
2 hours cook time
20-30 minutes finishing time

Step By Step:

Step 1: put the oil in the coffee cup, then set the coffee cup in the crockpot, put the lid on the crockpot and set it on High

Step 2: turn on the crockpot and get it warming up as you grind up the herb

Step 3: using the cannbis/coffee grinder, grind up the herb to a fine powder, then carefully scrape it into the warm Coco Oil in the coffee cup and stir the mixture, pushing all of the herb into the oil

Step 4: let the oil and herb cook together for an hour, then return to your oil and stir it for a minute.... then let it continue to cook

Step 5: return after another hour (1+1 = 2 hours total cook time), stir it up and remove the oil from the crockpot... use a pair of oven mitts so you don't burn your hands

Step 6: let it cool for a while but be sure to keep your eyes on the oil as Coco oil will solidify at room temp and you need it to be slightly less than solid to pour it into the caps

Step 7: pour the cooled oil into the gel caps, making sure that they are equal in measurement so they will be equal in dosage... if there is any 'gunk' in the bottom of the cup scrape it equally into the caps

Step 8: put them in the fridge or freezer for a while to set up.. I am not quite there yet so I can't tell you how long

NOTE: You can get really Fucked Up on edibles if you do not know what you are doing... read this thread from the beginning and pay attention. I would take 1 cap and wait 2 hours before taking another just to be sure...

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pic 1: blueberry I used
pic 2: another pic of blueberry used
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Nice MVP! Mine seems to end up more of a yellowish color....I'm wondering if that's just the type of weed I'm using.....Master Kush.
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great thread guys!

i have one question though. i made some of these today and had some of the bud residue on the bottom. i scraped it into two capsules that lack oil.

will these two capsules still be effective or has all of the thc transferred to the coconut oil?

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I'd like to post your recipe on my site Flameon, you would retain the credit and the copyright.

Please post if it's not okay. I can also link to here if you want me to.
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Hi Guys (and a slightly late 'Happy New Year!')

Great work on the timescale guide MVP (love the pictures too), bang on!
I've not had chance to try blueberry in a mix, how did they go?

Regarding the time question, I keep all my kit together in the same box (the coconut oil in the fridge), so it only takes me about five minutes to set up.
Then, once the oil is cooking you can just leave it to do its thing. So, although it'll take you about three hours from start to finish, most of that time you can just take it easy, go watch a film or something.
Filling the caps takes a little time (and practice), and is a bit easier if you have a holder, but even so we're only talking around ten minutes.

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i have one question though. i made some of these today and had some of the bud residue on the bottom. i scraped it into two capsules that lack oil.

will these two capsules still be effective or has all of the thc transferred to the coconut oil?

I always take the time to include the residue because the plant material will have soaked up the THC rich oil and is therefore, still very potent (worth trying a batch 'with and without' for a side-by-side comparison - you'll notice the difference).

OZO - You're a star, I may need to get some 'powerplant' myself this year. Glad they went well for you (hope nobody put a Wii remote through your TV whilst under the influence - it's easily done lol)

Snorbel - Many thanks for the interest, please feel free to help yourself to whatever bits you think might be useful. I'll keep an eye out for it.

Catch you later
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Tried these a few weeks ago in my crock pot on low with bad results. Well..no results.

Tried again yesterday with some good but a little old weed on high and used a remote probe thermometer to constantly monitor the temp and make sure it didn't go above 285. this worked perfectly and i took them this morning and have been stoned all day.

Now i'm confident to try it with some good fresh strong bud and really see the potential.

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flame, i gotta hand it to you, awesome post... ive read the whole thread 3 or 4 times now, and ive tried the recipe twice... and i cant seem to get it. ive taken up to 3 pills in a sitting of my first two runs with nothing more than a little buzz.

im using 1.5 grams of 420/oz weed that i ground twice... in 7 grams (1 and a half teaspoons) of coconut oil (12g sat fat per tbsp). making 12 capsules. first time i let simmer for 2 hours on low, 2nd time for 2 and a half hrs, just to make sure (thinking that maybe i didnt let it simmer for long enough)

however, then i wondered what the temps were in my crockpot. i have Amazon.com: Hamilton Beach 33141 4-Quart Oval Slow Cooker: Home & Garden this hamilton beach cooker, and ive read on the internet that it runs a bit hot. the user guide says it will cook food at 200F no matter whether you put it on high or low, it just takes longer depending on the setting. after an hour on low, the inside of the crockpot was about 110C... not too hot by your instructions but still well above the recommended 80/90.

The room doesnt smell strongly of weed when i do my simmering, but it does smell as if i fired up the vape once or twice... and when i take the weed out a strong woosh of weed smell comes out of the crockpot once the lid's off. unfortunately, the "keep warm" setting doesnt seem to get above 50C on its own... so the question is, am i better off grabbing a new crockpot (like Amazon.com: Rival 5025WG 2-1/2-Quart Crockpot: Home & Garden) or is there some other avenue i should be trying?

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... ive read the whole thread 3 or 4 times now, and ive tried the recipe twice... and i cant seem to get it. ive taken up to 3 pills in a sitting of my first two runs with nothing more than a little buzz.
I have to think that in your situation the herb is not being simmered/cooked/whatever you like to call it at a high enough temperature. In my post about 1/2 dozen above this I outlined a quick easy summary, recommending one cooks the oil on High.

Why you might ask? Because crock pots are notoriously difficult to control the cooking temperature and even when cooked on High are designed to stay below 200 F or so.

The batch I made were sampled by my GF (I can't as I have a hair test to pass soon) and she said they were as good and strong as the brownies I make... which means a really nice, long lasting buzz.

This is a great recipe that works, so experiment and it will end up working for you. Look at the post above just yours and read what they experienced - similar but eventually successful.

BTW, I am just stepping in for Flame to get you a quick answer and encouragement. Now go start that new experiment...

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haha ok cool MVP... i was hesitant to use my kief stash at first but i am currently warming up the crock as we speak. Im gonna use a gram of kief to see if I cant just get this to work. I love this recipe because it only uses a gram and a half at a time, while masterwu's gd recipe uses an eighth (and ive tried that 3 times with not so great success either, lol)

I will let you know how it goes (crossing my fingers)...

PS - do you think the kief would be better done on Low or High for this run?

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Well candidly, I take educated risks. And here is how I see it: Since the first couple of runs were on Low and didn't get the job done, I would cook it on High. But that is just me. Besides, I like the word High quite a bit better than the word Low.

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Lol, I agree with MVP....the issue could be your crockpot. Lately I've been doing mine the "old fashioned" way and gotten better results. I use a candy thermometer to moniter temp and have found that if I keep the temp between 200 - 300F for about 20 mins (and I'll try letting it go longer as well but you have to stand there and watch it constantly) and have gotten much better results than with the crockpot. I honestly think it's my cheapy crockpot as MVP suggested.
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Tried again yesterday with some good but a little old weed on high and used a remote probe thermometer to constantly monitor the temp and make sure it didn't go above 285. this worked perfectly and i took them this morning and have been stoned all day.

Now i'm confident to try it with some good fresh strong bud and really see the potential.

thanks guys.
Hi Drinkmilk - Glad to hear you cracked it, nice job and keep up the good work

tjcioffe - I'm in agreement with MVP and Weedhound, although your question has given me something to think about.
I tend to switch between two crock pots depending on what I'm making and have been fortunate not to come across any difference between the two in terms of results. I don't however, have a separate thermometer to accurately test the temperatures of each (something I think I'll now have to get hold of).

One of the reasons for originally advising the use of the 'low heat' setting was to avoid confusing people who may have read about cooking weed with a 'high heat' in other threads and be tempted to 'overcook' their weed by other methods and potentially reduce their available THC content.

The fact is, as far as using 'crock pots' goes there should only be a marginal difference between 'low' and 'high' settings (roughly about 10 to 20 degrees centigrade), so if in doubt - I would go with 'high' setting.
N.B. Typically, the heating element heats the contents to a steady temperature in the 175–200°F (80–95°C) range - 'low' is generally 80 to 90, and 'high' is about 90 to 100°C.

A couple of technical points that might be worth considering are:

1.) Could the container your using for the oil be resistant (ish) to heat and slowing down the time it takes for the oil to reach optimum temperature i.e around 90/100 degrees?

2.) Also, normally, in a crock pot liquid (H2O) is present which helps to evenly distribute the heat, it may be that some crock pots have 'hot' or 'cold' spots depending on where the heating element is placed which may also slow down the oil reaching the correct temperature.

3.) The lack of a liquid with a 100 degrees C boiling point being present (i.e. water) also means that it is possible that some crock pots may run quite 'hot' (I'd be curious to know what the highest temperatures are that people have recorded).

p.s. As mentioned earlier in the thread, an oven is Ok too if your not confident about your Crock pot's performance.

Hope this (rather long and dull) explanation helps some

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holy mother of god. tried the kief on high for 2 hours the other night. the first one i took had me feeling relaxed for a few hours. i took the second the next day and it knocked me on my ass for like 4 hours. i was just sitting there in a daze for awhile, and all of a sudden i looked up and it was 3 hours later.

so, success. thanks for all the help guys =)
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