Ok- so my wife made another one of these last night and it seemed to go a bit better. Another small batch (i'll post some pics later). The 'cake' weighed 2.2-2.3g when it was done and only had about .6-.7g of weed in it, so that's about 1.6g oil to .7g weed. In teaspoonfulls, I think it equates to 3/8... Anyway, preheated oil in crock pot on high (I'll have to ask my wife what the temps came out to) and added weed. Cooked on high for 20-30 mins, then stirred and switched to low, cooked that way for another 1.5-2 hours, and switched back to low for 20 minutes or so. Cooled in fridge and each ate half. We were both pretty messed up a couple hours later, but STILL not as good as the time I got the most wasted on these things... One thing that might be worth noting is that my eyes wouldn't point in the same direction for like an hour and a half at least... My left eye would look where I was trying to look, but my right eye was always turned inward at least 30 degrees... Pretty good buzz, but it was more like a compliment to a smoking session because I wasn't so high that I couldn't tolerate smoking as well- if you can imagine anyone who's so wasted their vision won't track properly, and they still want to smoke more... I'm hardcore. Also when I tried to look around rotating my head, it felt like it was skipping in a non fluid motion. I felt like a robot that needed grease, and it was pretty 'giggly' I hope to perfect the recipe so I can get that first high back, but this definitely represents some progress... I'll post pics and more data later...

-Mark

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Hey flame, sorry to bug you but I posted a question about this stuff in a drug testing forum weeks ago and I didn't receive a single reply. Could you tell me what you think?

Could this method keep urine cleaner?


Thanks in advance
-Mark

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Can this be cooked in a toaster oven broiler. It has a bake mode and a temperature dial, but i wasn't sure if the weed would get burnt. Has anyone tried this?

Thanks

Ok, so I made another batch and I'd say that if you follow these simple instructions, you should have good results. I don't know which of these really matter, it's just that it works for me.

1) COMPLETELY dry out your weed.

It should be so dry you really don't even need a grinder or whatever. It should crumble in your fingers. I let it sit out for 2 or 3 days to get to this point.

2) Grind it to a dust.

I use a stainless type of pepper mill where you have to push down on a "piston" and it causes a metal bar to grind against the weed. It is a P.I.T.A to operate, but it does a great job. Mine is so fine I have to be careful not to breathe too close to it or I'll blow it away.

3) Pre-heat the oil in the crockpot on high.

High for my crockpot is 325F.

4) Cook at least 3.5 grams at a time.

Like I said, I don't know if it matters or not, but I usually cook at least this much.

5) Put your weed in whatever kind of container you are using and pour the oil on top just to the point that all of the weed is saturated.

You really don't want a layer of "just oil" on the top. When it is finished and cooled, you should not see a layer of yellow on top.

6) Cook for 6 hours.

Again, I have no idea how much this really matters. I suspect that 3 hours is sufficient, but I've had great results with 6 hours. Also, my oil ends up pretty dark with MAYBE a slight green tint to it on top. The rest is brown/black.

7) Don't use the gel caps.

For me, the release takes longer and the high is lower when using gel caps. When cool, the oil should be hard and easy to cut into sections with a knife. I cook mine in a shallow metal muffin pan and just leave it in the when I'm done. I cut it like a pie and when I eat a slice, I just quickly crunch it up with my front teeth (so it doesn't get stuck in my molars) and swallow it with a drink of water.

8) Don't eat ANYTHING for 4 or 5 hours before dosing.

I eat lunch at 11:15am and dose around 4 or 5 pm. I've noticed big differences when only waiting 2 or 3 hours and also when eating a small snack any time before dosing. EMPTY STOMACH.

9) Eat a meal about 1/2 hour after dosing.

I don't know why, but the high kicks into a higher gear if I eat about 30 minutes after dosing.

10) Use a crockpot that secures the lid.

I really have no idea if this matters or not. My crockpot locks down the lid on both sides and this creates pressure inside the crockpot. Part of me suspects that it prevents THC from gassing off and the other part of me suspects that it doesn't mean shit.

12) If possible, exercise before dosing.

I do 30+ minutes at the gym almost every day and I definitely notice a difference on the days I work out. Eating 30 minutes after dosing on an exercise day makes an even bigger difference.

13) Enjoy the buzz.

I cooked a whole quarter (7 grams) this last time and I would guestimate that I will get about 28 good doses out of it. So, that comes out to .25 grams per dose. I think that's pretty reasonable for a good high. Taking .5 grams is a REALLY GREAT high and anything over .5 is a rocket ride.

I now GREATLY prefer eating over vaping and I'll never smoke ever again. I like how it comes on slow and natural. You get a very pleasant feeling for an hour and then it really kicks in. The transition gives you time to adjust and it feels more natural to me.

If you do all that and it doesn't work, I can only assume that you are buying schwag. I don't have great connections and consider the bud I get to be pretty average or a little above. I can't imagine doing this with some high quality weed.

The condensed version:
1) COMPLETELY dry out your weed.
2) Grind it to a dust.
3) Pre-heat the oil in the crockpot on high. (325F)
4) Cook at least 3.5 grams at a time.
5) Put your weed in whatever kind of container you are using and pour the oil on top just to the point that all of the weed is saturated.
6) Cook for 6 hours.
7) Don't use the gel caps.
8) Don't eat ANYTHING for 4 or 5 hours before dosing.
9) Eat a meal about 1/2 hour after dosing.
10) Use a crockpot that secures the lid.
12) If possible, exercise before dosing.
13) Enjoy the buzz.

mobyone

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Hi Non
There's quite a few different types of 'crock pot' these days. The ones I tend to use are pretty basic (hence the need for a separate oven thermometer), but you can get digitally controlled models where you set the temperature and the 'pot' maintains it. Some 'pots' come with 'probes' that you could put in the oil to monitor temp. They cost a bit more (expect to pay upwards of $40), but I hear they do the job well.

Hi Mark

Thanks for posting the link. It's something I looked into myself a little while back so I'll post up what I was able to discover in more detail later on that thread, but the short answer is .. I'm not sure, but I don't think so.

There was a scientific study back in 2000 that looked at how much THC the average person could consume (bound in oil) on a daily basis before it would show up on a typical workplace drug testing program and it would seem the amounts we're taking are above the line.

Hi vastoner
Yeah, a toaster oven seems to work just fine. A couple of people in the thread have reported successful results using one.
What make and model are you thinking of using?

P.S. Great work mobyone,

The point about exercise is a good one, I often walk my dog just after taking a couple to help kick start the process (helps speed up the metabolism), although I now make sure I'm home before things get too bent out of shape. I once found myself hugging a tree in the woods, how do you explain that to the neighbours?

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Flameon,
I used a Cruisinart Classic toaster oven and didn't get very stellar results. It could have been a few things, either i didnt cook it long enough (i cooked for 3 hours at around 250 degrees F) or the weed was not ground up enough. im going to give it another shot in a regular oven and make sure I get it right this time.

Hey, I have all the ingredients and tools to make these capsules and I am ready to make them tonight. I am Using finely ground bud. Would it be best to use the syringe to remove the oil or to let the final product set in the refrigerator and then cut it into 12 pieces? have you made it with bud before? What problems did you run into? I want to make sure I do this right the 1st time! Please reply asap!

Hi StonedChef and welcome to the forums.

When making capsules I always tend to use a syringe, however, usually there is a little residue left over which needs to be scraped out, and this can be a little fiddly and time-consuming (especially with small batches).

For your first go, and to make sure you've got on top of the technique, you'd probably be just as well to allow the oil to set on a plate in the fridge, then divide up and test a sample.

That way (assuming you've not gone in at too high a heat), if it's not 'hitting the mark, you can simply re-heat the remaining mixture again at a slightly higher temp, and re-test. This will also help to give you a good idea of the how the temperature and cooking duration affects the final results.

Oh yes, and good luck!

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Hey thanks for the prompt response. Is it necessary to decarboxylate the bud in the oven at 325 F prior to grinding?

Also, I am very interested in getting into the medical scene, and being a chef would like to learn alot more about how THC reacts within the body. Do you have any literature you can reccommned I read? Also, being that the capsules take up to an hour and a half to "kick in", do you think there is a way to speed up the rate of THC absorbtion into the bloodstream. Perhaps employing some sort of catylst in the capsules to lessen the absortion time?

I always put my semi ground weed in the oven for a bit to just get rid of any moisture that may be in the budbefore I powder it in the coffee grinder. If it actually chemically changes the weed i'm not convinced but I wouldn't skip this step because any moisture is not good. My capsules have been too strong at times so if it works don't change it is my theory.

I think if you want a quick hit you need to smoke, vaporise or inject it. ha ha. My guess is that if you sped up the oncome, the high would not last as long. You would need to speed up your metabalism (sp?) then slow it back down somehow. IMO.

Hope this helps.
Subzero

Hey I made these capsules a few days ago and did no get the results i was looking for in the least. My procedure was as follows:

1. I ground up about 3 grams of bud in my coffee grinder. Super finely ground. Same consistency as dust.

2. I Decarboxylated the ground bud in the oven at 300 for about 5 minutes and then added the bud to 14 grams of coconut oil which was preheated to 230 degrees Fahrenheit.

3. I simmered the mixture for 2 hours and then put in the refrigerator on a plate for 10 minutes

4. I portioned the "loaf" into 24 pieces and filled the capsules

5. I swallowed one capsule to start and after 1 1/2 hours of being sober, I swallowed 2 more.

6. 1 1/2 hours later, I was still sober, so i took 2 more. 1 1/2 hours later still nothing.

7. I gave up that night and went to sleep.

8. The next day I had 18 or 19 capsules left so I too them all at 6:00pm.

9. By 7:00pm I began feeling a light head high.

10. At 7:30pm I was truly high, and by 8:30pm I was feeling a peak.

11. This peak, which turned into a plateau, lasted until around 11:30pm.

12. By 12:30am, I was no longer feeling any lasting affects.

13. These pills are not practical to me atm. If i have to take 18 in one sitting to feel a high then its is neither cost effect, nor is it worth my time and bud.

I believe that I may need help in my cooking methods. I want my capsules to be so potent that the daily stoner can take one and be knocked on his/her ass for a couple hours(following the 60 to 90 minute wait).

To those that have had success with these capsules please respond asap. I'm looking to make these capsules as potent as possible. I want the capsules to be almost too strong! What temperature do you preheat your oil to? Do you add the bud the the oil prior to heating or once the oil is heated? How long do you cook your bud? Two hours? Please help by answering my questions in as much detail as possible. I want to quit smoking ganja for health reasons, and I am hoping these capsules will be the solution I am looking for.

I have been having consistent success for about 7 months now. I do tend to use a lower grade so I usually need to take two 00 capsules three times a day for my symptoms but when I am having a bad day I'll take up to four. I have a very high tolerance (I no longer smoke) a fellow patient who had no tolerance took only one around 6pm and she woke up still feeling the effects.

I like to make a month's worth of medication with each batch so I use about 2 ounces per batch.

I pre heat the oven to 275F (I used a candy thermometer to check my oven temps out just because its set at 250 doesn't always mean it gets to 250 fpr mine I set it at 275 and it gets to 250).

I do not Decarboxylated in the oven beforehand so I have no expereince with it but I think 300 degrees is too high because thc starts to vaporize around that temp.

I have heard that coconut oil is the best to use. I use a mixture of coconut and olive oil because when you make as many capsules as I do it will cool down to the solid state before I am done putting them in the capsules which is a pain.

Do you use the Crockpot method and fill the Crockpot with the coconut oil?? What temperature do you preheat the oil to?? What temperatures do you cook it at?? How long do you cook it for?? Please respond ASAP. I have been struggling with these for a few weeks now! Please help!

try reading the thread again

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I've used both the crockpot and oven method. If you use a crockpot you are going to want put your mixtured in a smaller heat resistant carrier because unless you plan on making a ton of it you'll end up with this too thin layer on the bottom of your crockpot that will end up burned. I got a crockpot that allowed me to set its temps I had it set at 250F preheated it before placing my mason jar inside. When I have used coconut oil I just heat it until it melts probably around 100 if I were to guess. I really did not notice any difference between the batch I made in the crockpot vs the oven for me its a matter of preference and I prefer the oven. With both the crockpot and oven I turned up the temp to 300 for ten minutes after I have "cooked" it for two hours. I then turn the oven off and leave it alone until it cools naturally another hour or two.

Think they would work as well bumping up the weed and skipping the hash? I can never find any hash....

You know with one batch I made I added three grams of hash with two ounces of ground bud and it really wasn't stronger. I plan on making a small hash batch to see if it really makes a difference.

Alright, I've been following this post for months now and I've tried almost everyones recipes. I've tried with everything from shwag to headies and I've never had a recipe work for me. I've tried it with my friend and they have had success. My question is, is it possible that some people can't get high from ingesting THC. I've had brownies and rice crispy treats many times and also never had success. I realize this probably isn't the correct place to post this but I don't know where else to put it and I feel like enought people follow this so that I might get an answer. Could it be that I just need a lot more? I'm 6 foot and only 180 lbs so I don't know what the problem could be. I've made batches with 3.5gs and taken the whole thing myself and....nothing. The pictures I've seen look just like mine and I'm out of explinations.

You are not the first to have failures and I agree I think there has to be some kind of metabolic issue to explain it. Making these capusles is not rocket science its actually quite easy.

Ok thanks. I've gotten to the point where I want to stop trying because how much money/bud I've wasted. I'm going keep trying but I need to rethink what I could be doing wrong. I'm trying to figure out if maybe I'm just doing something wrong. The only thing brownies have ever done to me is get me really tired and i've read on one of the forums here that it has to do with either the type of bud or the cook time. I'm thinking of starting a new topic about this. See if theres other people out there.

http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/1...ml#post1867924

Here's the thread if anyone is interested.

http://boards.cannabis.com/recipes/1...ml#post1867924

Here's the thread if anyone is interested. I'm lost, someone HELP PLEASE.