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Opie I've never put water in.....just the bowl setup you see there. I'd try between 250-275 next and try maybe 2-3 hours total. The longest I've done is 4 hours with correct temps.

Honestly no real thoughts about heating things up in the capsules..that would be my problem as well.

I can say this definitely works but it took a lot of tweaking. Have you tried the very first recipe with the little pan? That really gave me my start. But it's pretty rare that i make some and feel NOTHING.....even if I mess up my temps somewhat.
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I hate to butt in, but I've read the entire thread, and I just wanted to answer Opie's last question.

NO. Do NOT put water in there around your bowl. Once the temperature reaches 212* Farenheit, the water will boil and the temperature will not go higher than that since the pressure caused by the temperature is being relieved through boiling. This is why chefs put custards into ramekins and then surround the ramekins with water; the water keeps it at a constant temperature and cooks it more evenly. It will stunt your temperature climb at around 212, which you do not want since Weedhound said you were already at the lower end of temps.

(Anyway, I'm looking into possibly trying this sometime soon, once I get more bud and a capsule machine. :-) )
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Opie,

Empty your pills and cook it again. If you can't get a good temperature reading in the crockpot, put it in the oven around 285F. I have found that the temperature of the oil and the temperature of the oven/crockpot are not the same.

The problem is that you are cooking at too low a temperature. If you are cooking at say 230F, the actual oil temp is probably more like 180F, which is not enough. Also, if you are cooking 1/2 cup or more, you will need EVEN MORE TEMP in the stove.

I can't tell you exactly why, but more oil means less temp of the oil. For example, you put two teaspoons of oil in one bowl and you put 1/2 cup of oil in the other bowl, both in the stove a the same time at 250F. The smaller bowl's oil will be at 200F and the larger bowl's oil will be at 170F. (Just example temps.)

You must measure the OIL temperature and keep it between 225 and 250. If you can't measure it, just add 50 degrees F and you'll probably be ok. So, if you want the oil at 250F, set your oven to 300F.

I did some trial and error and I can now get a great high 3 times using a less than a teaspoon of mids. Using your high end weed, you should have better luck than me!

MORE HEAT!

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Hi Weedhound

Just got back from a weeks vacation, and dropped in to find all kinds of fantastic recipes and tutorials have appeared on the site.
Superb job, and excellent pictures.
Now both Mr & Mrs Hound have 'green fingers/thumbs' (literally lol).
p.s. many thanks for the name-check - you're too kind.

Hi again opie, I hope you've had more success with the potency.
I couldn't agree more with weedhound about the temperature ranges, it's one of the most critical aspects of the process, but always seems to vary slightly from person to person depending on the kit they're using. A little trial and error with smaller quantities is probably the best advice I can give, once you've nailed the setting on your crock pot, just go for it.

Hey WH, I think we must use the same measuring system, 3 caps of my latest batch is good for a level 8 experience. lol

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Flameon had some good ideas in his thread which I will post a link to shortly since his thread is the single greatest piece of work on cannabis capsules that I have ever had the pleasure to read.
Do you think using this quote as my sig would be a little too much?

p.s. Great work moby, can't tell you how pleased I am to hear you've cracked a system that's working for you!
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p.s. Great work moby, can't tell you how pleased I am to hear you've cracked a system that's working for you!
Thanks so much for your help. I still feel that I can improve the results a bit, but I'd say I'm 80% of the way there. I'm using #1 caps which are 1/2 the size of the 00 caps and I take 4 to get a really really good result. Someday I'll try 6 and see what happens, but I'm actually a bit nervous about that. LOL I'm quite amazed at how long it lasts. I also love that it comes on so slow and natural so you have time to adjust. With a vaporizer, I get to that point in like 5 minutes and can't deal with other people and situations.
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Flame,

Glad you approve as you are the one I owe the most to about these capsules.

PS.....How can the truth be over the top? I'd be honored if you want to use that quote.
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Flameon,
I say go for it with the quote, but I would reduce the size one notch maybe, so it's not so blaring and blatant. If you make a one sentence post, the signature will take over as the first thing to be read.

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Thank you for trying to help, but I was measuring the oil temperature, nothing else.

Anyone,
8 seemed to work for me, but nothing like I was expecting and hoping for. I watched the entire first disk of Lost, and I said I aint moving for nothing. I'd say it was more of a body stone than a thinking or creative stone. Not quite what I was expecting. Wait, I already said that.
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Hmmm....shouldn't need 8....that's quite the body stone. I'd say adjust temps.....try mobyones suggestion about the oven perhaps with a few of the pills....

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Thank you for trying to help, but I was measuring the oil temperature, nothing else.
Just try more heat man, what do you have to lose? The first time I was successful, it was because I thought I had ruined a gram+ of weed and said "F IT, I'm just putting it in the crockpot on high for four hours." This was after cooking for 3 hours on lower heat in the oven. I observed the crockpot temp going to 350 and hovering around 300. This means my oil was 250+ and you only hit 222. More heat.

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Got it. I'll try again.
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You're almost there Opie....you just need to tweak a little and find what temp is right for you. Big body stone that comes on real slow and hangs on forever? That's what happens to me when I don't cook it enough.
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Bro, when making the capsules, you've got to decarboxylify your herb, this turns the THCA into THC and makes it absorbable into your blood stream.

Bake the oil in your oven at exactly 325 for 5 or so minutes (get a cheap oven thermometer to make sure) then put the shit back in the capsules.


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Certainly worth trying max, thanks for the tip
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Certainly, it makes me sad when someone tries something and it doesn't work out like they'd hoped. That weed wants to be smoked/ingested/whatever to make people happy lol.

I'm just helping everyone (weed, and consumer of it) be happy!

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max, good attitude, and thanks. If my little hick town has a candy thermometer, I'll be getting one today.
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Lemme know how it goes man!

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OK folks, thanks to everybody who's trying to help me get this working. I am probably going to try again today with my new candy/deep fry thermometer. After researching a little I've found the two are interchangeable. I'll probably try to get the oil to about 280 and see what happens. Also, longer time, maybe 8 hours?

Don't know why I didn't think of it before: Why can't we use our laser thermometers to measure the oil temp? Wouldn't this be the absolute best way? I guess I'll use both and compare.
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Oh please do compare. I'd love to know that. Opie, here is what I would do if I were you and if you have the weed .....start some take it up to 280F.....after 2 hours take out enough for one dose....after 4 hours take some again etc.....Let me say I have NEVER cooked mine for 8 hours so while I have only heard good things about cooking longer I can't swear to them with my life.
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I'm having a 3-way

That's right, as I type this I am taking bong hits, baking for capsules and making firecrackers. Well I guess I really should be ingesting all 3.

So far the the temps have been about 12 degrees cooler when measured with the laser thermometer. However, I can't get the whole bulb submerged. I'm up to, I don't know whatever that picture shows.

I've never made firecrackers before, and I have to do a little improvising. I'm using crackers and nutella and almond butter (more fat). Hope they do something. Should be about done. I split up 10 grams for capsules and baking.
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I think MVP has the cooking thing down better than I do. My cookies put people to sleep.
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So Opie....what time are we supposed to meet at your place for the party?
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WH, that's a good idea about taking some out at different times. If I can only remember to do so. I'm not really expecting much, but I just ate 2 of my version of firecrackers. Talk about taste, my oh my. The nutella one tasted like ass, and almond butter one tasted like finely aged butt cheese. I don't think I could have got them down without washing them like pills. I used roughly 5 grams for 5 cracker sandwiches and 1 little cookie sandwich.

Laser thermometer is reading 12-15 degrees F lower than candy thermometer. Party at my house, when is good for everyone?
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Doesn't really have to be exact either.....meh...2hrs-ish. Yeah, the taste sucks to me....one reason I like the capsules.
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Alright Opie, the suspense is killing me....
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Bro, when making the capsules, you've got to decarboxylify your herb, this turns the THCA into THC and makes it absorbable into your blood stream.

Bake the oil in your oven at exactly 325 for 5 or so minutes (get a cheap oven thermometer to make sure) then put the shit back in the capsules.


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hm well, Im not sure if the weed will decarboxylate if it's still wet. I thought the point of decarbing was to dry it out completely.
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