Thread: The Definitive Green Dragon (Revised, Updated, Combined)

While heating the alcohol mixture would the THC evaporate away with the alcohol if you boiled it for too long? Or would it be possible to just add more booze and start over?

man I don't know why this never works for me. Today I tried again, half of the bud was set at 250 for 5 minutes for decarboxylation and the other half at 170 for 17 minutes.

Also I used Kind Bud for the last batch.. thankfully I guess I can still smoke it. Is it my oven or what? Should I try one last time decarboxylating at 170 for lesser time like 15 minutes or less?

Non, are you using an oven thermometer as well? I used one since my stove/oven is rather old and found out that it was about 50F hotter than it should be.

man im goin to make some right now
i love trippin like that

yeah Cannibisaurus my oven does the same, about 30-50 degrees higher and then it goes down lower than the set temperature.

Hi Friends,

Happy to see so many of you are having success with GD. Let's see if I can answer a few questions and help you get even better results.

1. Increase the Amount of Ethanol for a Better Extraction
It occurred to me that maybe I could improve the extraction efficiency by using a larger volume of solvent (the ethanol). Think about dissolving salt in water, if you use a larger volume of water you can dissolve more salt before the solution becomes saturated and the salt falls out. Shouldn't the same properties apply to cannaboids in ethanol? So for my most recent batch, I started with 3oz of Everclear instead of the 2oz of rum (a 50% increase in volume as well as a more pure ethanol). After extracting for 20 minutes I had 2oz of GD remaining instead of the normal 1oz.

If my previous extraction method was perfectly efficient, you would predict that the new GD would only be half as strong as the old GD since the same amount of cannaboids were now dissolved in 2oz instead of 1oz. Happily, the new GD was almost as strong as the old GD. This means that by increasing the amount of solvent (ethanol) for my extraction, I was able to extract more cannaboids (goodies).

Thus, it is okay (probably even preferable) to use more ethanol for your extraction as this seems to improve the efficiency of the extraction. It would be great if someone with a good deal of GD experience should test this out (how about you OKSmoky).

2. Boiling Temperature
Ethanol boils at 172°F. It is really hard to make the temperature go above 172 without doing something really dangerous. Just use the water bath, let the ethanol boil, and it should stay right on 170°F-172°F. Relax, float downstream—if it is boiling, you are doing fine.

3. Green Tea
Following up on the idea of Green Beer (aka Dragon Tail Ale for you microbrew fans), I have invented Green Tea. Put your dropper or two of GD into a nice cup of your favorite tea, add honey if you like, and sip away. Have a tea party. Personally I prefer a nice black tea like Darjeeling (and I like calling black tea green tea). It hits slower than Green Beer, but faster than a dropper alone. BTW—this also means you can now make lollipops or other happy confections.

4. Boiling Off the Alcohol
If it looks like you have boiled off too much of the alcohol, you can probably just add more. If you were to boil off all the ethanol you would probably be left with some sort of resin (hmmm). The THC should not evaporate unless the temperature goes over 380°F (vaporization point of THC) if the solvent evaporates.

5. Non—what do we do with you?

• You must follow the directions.
• Don't be high when you do this.
• Don't ever put the ethanol in the oven—BOOM!
• Bud NOT schwag.
• Have a friend help you. Preferably someone who did pretty good in chemistry class.

Master Wu
the Alchemist

Master Wu,

I made this per your instructions the other day and it worked great, just wanted to say THANKS!!

I was nervous about boiling it so I did it in a double boiler. Couldn't get it to a high enough temp in the db so I ditched it and went bk to your instructs. Easy to follow, great results! I love having dosing options!

well I'm jealous. I did follow instructions. I've tried decarboxylation with all the recommended temps. Why oh why does simple cause and effect not work for me...

You are a genius.

here i go.... just made a batch. used 2g of chronic, 2.5oz Everclear (which in CA you can get if you go on base!), and just finished making it. gonna sit here and see what happens. ill get pictures of what my final product looked like. Wu, do you have pictures of what you call "green-brown" vs. "emerald green"?

Kwijibud,

Thanks for reminding me about the color. When I said the color of GD should be green-brown I was using 151 Rum (dark of course). Now that I have switched to using Everclear the color of the GD is a much more lovely deep emerald green.

So don't fret if you get a nice green colored GD when using clear spirits.

Master Wu
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the alchemist

woah. woah woah woah!

okay, so i ended up w/ about 1.5oz of GD. it was emerald green in straight light, little darker (forest green) on a dark background. i wasnt sure how much to dose so i just started scooping it out w/ a flat spoon into a cup. (i need to get a dropper for more consistency).

so i didnt smoke (obviously) to see if this stuff really works. im a pretty big smoker so i thought i would need a lot to get faded. i also hadnt eaten in a long while. pretty empty stomach.

1/2 hour later i was like "um... i think im feeling something. it could be the everclear i guess"

1 hour later i was like "boy im sitting here at my computer not knowing what to do." so i stood up and was tipsy.

1.5 hours later i was walking around aimlessly like "What the fizuck??!~?!?" i was stoned off my ass.

2 hours later i was laughing hysterically for no reason. i was toasted. toasted toasted toasted!!

the whole thing lasted about 5 hours (6 hours after consumption) and lingered for another hour or so.

let me just say i was pretty skeptical about the whole thing but now im a firm believer! this is great especially since ive been having some coughing problems lately. this totally eliminates smoking. however, it does require a full day of being stoned (im not complaining!)

thanks Wu. awesome recipe. awesome results.

i just gave my Girlfriend a hefty dosage on an empty stomach, so we'll see what happens.

thanks

Last week I added a about 1.5 oz everclear to the mixture I had left, boiled it a little and then let it sit to cool down and ended up with about 15mL. Thursday I took about 1.5mL and was a little buzzed for a few hours, but nothing major. Saturday I woke up at 11 and took 3mL on a completely empty stomach. About half an hour later I really started feeling it and I was completely ripped until about 5 or 5:30. This mixture was made with schwag so I'm excited to see what I can do with good bud. Thanks Master Wu!

Another question that came to mind though. How long do you think it is able to sit before it separates (if it ever does)?

Hey Master Wu, good to see you are still experimenting. Mind if I post more of your results on Green Dragon Recipes (Marijuana Drink) ? I will probably update that in the next few weeks when I have some time.

Last fall I did a little experiment, and I believe I found the most convenient method for making green dragon:

1. Microwave *dry* weed on high for 2 minutes. NO ALCOHOL IN MICROWAVE.

2. Place 1/2 gram of crumbled weed in a dry, clean, empty glass bottle that is used for iodine water purification tablets. Fill all the way with lemon extract (90% alcohol). Do not use the iodine tablets, only the bottle. Make sure the lid is metal with metal threads. This prevents bursting from vapor pressure.

3. Place bottle inside a black light-proof sunglasses case or camera case. Leave on the dashboard of your car for several days in the sun. For some areas this will only work in the summertime when it's at least 90F outside.

It can be very strong! I accidentally got really high at a music festival by drinking this. :-)

what if i wrap the weed inside tinfoil (airtight) while baking it at the beginning so that it won't stink up the house? will i need to bake for an extra minute or sumthing?

also, will there be less odor if i use the microwave for 2 minutes?



great recipe tho, can't wait to try it. would it work with any kind of alochol beverage to some extent? i only have an 80 proof bacardi lyin around..

woops double post sorry

Originally Posted by Non

man I don't know why this never works for me. Today I tried again, half of the bud was set at 250 for 5 minutes for decarboxylation and the other half at 170 for 17 minutes.

I think this is your problem, doesn't the recipe say 325 degrees for 5 minutes?

Anyway I haven't tried this yet but plan on doing so very soon. Sounds like if its done right you really get a bang for your buck. 30 servings from an 8th :O

I've tried the temp at 325 thing, but my oven thermometer says it goes over 325 degrees. And I've seen other decarboxylation methods that call for 150 degrees for 15 minutes. Plus I read that weed starts decarboxylating at the temp 240 or so, and at the set temp of 170 to 180, it goes to 240 at times. So I set it there thinking that should be fine... I read that thc is vaporized around 340-50(?) and if I set my oven at 325 itll go higher than that, but also then lower, and higher again, then lower, etc.

Maybe 275-300 degrees could work, just need a time frame.. I guess 6-9 mins?

Damn! I went to a St Patty's day part and this would of gone over great. We all smoked but we all would have been that much more fucked up! I'm making this on Tue so thanks and I hope it turns out perfect.

anyone know a method of making green dragon in a freezer or in cold temperatures just above freezing?? like if I'm making a tincture by just letting the bud sit in alcohol for some time, except in cold temperatures.

I doubt it would do anything since, alcohol has a lower freezing temp...

I've been trying to make a green dragon tincture using about an ounce of lemon extract and half a gram to a gram of 'crippy', lots from roaches in a 2 ounce dropper bottle, sitting next to a window in an eyeglasses case.

It's been out there about 3-4 days. a lil more than 3. I wonder when it's going to be ready. and if i'd have to drink the whole thing to have an effect on me and even the bud or I can just do dropperfuls. Also i stuck it in the freezer one time for some time, wondering if that could make the extraction process faster or more potent. maybe drinking it cold would make it better too..?

i dont see how that makes any sense non considering the only reason this works would be the prebake of the buds and the simmering in the alcohol. but goodluck with it maybe something could turn out lol

Originally Posted by Non

anyone know a method of making green dragon in a freezer or in cold temperatures just above freezing?? like if I'm making a tincture by just letting the bud sit in alcohol for some time, except in cold temperatures.

I doubt it would do anything since, alcohol has a lower freezing temp...

wow u sound desperate

Made 2 batches for St. Patty's Day and it was a hit! All over the SF Bay Area people are praising Master Wu for the Green Dragon. Btw, young hot nurses seem to love riding the Green Dragon!