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Nov-05-2007, 13:39
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I'm glad you're going to try this because I think it works great. I agree that using a good reliable oven thermometer is probably a good idea, bacause at 325 you are probably cutting it kind of close to the danger zone where you could vaporize something your don't want to vaporize. If your oven thermostat were off, you might not get the results you want.
As far as different strains being affected by different temps, I'm not sure, but I don't think so. No matter what strain you are dealing with, the compounds are the same, just in different proportions. So I think all the vaporization, decarboxylization, isomerization and extraction reactions would happen at the same temperatures, ragardless of strain.
Sounds like you have a good experiment figured out for determining the effects of different beverages. But one thing I've found is that different poeple react differently to the same exact mixture and amount, so some of the differences that the people in your experiment report might be more related to that individual's physiology than to the method of ingesting.
Good luck and have fun! Let us know how it goes.
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Nov-05-2007, 17:53
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Good News!
Friends,
I am most happy to report that I have successfully saved a ruined batch. Here's how:
1. As you may know I volunteered to do a decarboxylation at 200F for 25min to see if it is as successful as 325F for 5 min. It was not successful. The 200F was not enough to decarboxylate and the GD was very sleepy and boring (THCA has mild analgesic effects).
2. My stupid was using a whole eighth and not setting up a small scale test. So I figured I had lost the whole batch and was planning on throwing it out. Then it occurred to me. What if I rebaked the GD extract at 325F and decarboxylated it. Of course I couldn't bake ethanol in the oven--boom--so I set up a water bath and evaporated all the ethanol. This left me with what appeared to be hash oil in the pan.
Note that to do this quickly I set up a simple double boiler with a small steel mixing bowl.
3. I then baked the hash oil in the steel mixing bowl for 5min at 325F. I removed it and redissolved it in 2oz of Everclear.
4. Friends, I now have a darn fine batch of GD. And I believe we have solved the optimal temperature problem.
Cheers,
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Nov-06-2007, 14:28
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Thanks for posting these results.
I'm glad you were able to revive the batch. I felt sort of bad bacause you had tried the 200F temp at least partly on my recommendation. Next time I'll try the 325F and see what happens. For now I still need to work through my last batch. I did it at 200F, and it seems pretty good, but I would like to try the higher temp for comparison. I can't use the technique you just described because I've already mixed it into a liqueur.
(BTW, I wrote this post once before, but when I came back, I didn't see it on the thread. So I posted it again. If anyone sees this post popping up on a random thread where it doesn't belong, that is what happened!)
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Nov-09-2007, 21:32
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Does anyone know if this method would work with stems? I have read other methods to make GD with stems but it was one that took over a month. I have atleast an ounce of stems to work with. I know the stems have far less thc so how much should I use? Any ideas or suggestions would be appreciated.
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Nov-17-2007, 05:33
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u must have gone to weed college were do i sign up
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Nov-28-2007, 22:13
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Made the green dragon using the directions from greendragonsoda.com
However I used .6 gram along with a kief. Baked it at 325 F for 4 minutes 30 seconds. (smelled up the room as if I were using my vape..used candles, fans, and an air purifier to kill the smell and it worked) Next I added the weed to the pyrex in a water bath along with 1 bottle of orange extract (79% alc.)... cooked the mixture at 170 F for 10 minutes, added 1 bottle of lemon extract (83% alcohol), raised the temp back up to 170 F and cooked for 12 more minutes
I had the same effects as dragonrider when adding the water to the bath to cool the mixture...there was an instant color change from emerald clear to opaque and buttery green/yellow. I then mashed the weed as best i could and strained it..
Chugged the green dragon with a Bud Ice on an empty stomach..felt the effects within 15 minutes...still ripped as we speak over 1.5 hours later.
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Dec-01-2007, 07:32
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My GD report
So, I got some shitty weed from a friend to try this out, just so I don't waste good weed. Used 1g of grass and 16ml of Mastika (a 94 proof drink - the most alcohol content I could find).
Here's where I think I might have gone wrong. I pre-heated the oven for about 4 mins, setting it to 325-ish (erred on the less side) then after 4 mins I put the weed in a shallow baking pan. It almost instantly started stinking up the whole kitchen, like in the first minute.
Anyway, I kept it in there for about 4 mins, took it out, put in in a glass jar and put it in the water bath for 20 mins. I hope I got the water bath temp right cause I don't have any kind of thermometer. I took half the mixture (since I used shitty weed and maybe got the baking wrong, I assume half of it isn't really bad) 10 mins ago (3:20 pm local time). I'll update as things (hopefully) develop.
Did I get the baking wrong though? The end product of the baking was pretty brown ....
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Dec-01-2007, 07:58
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ummm, either I can't edit posts or I just don't realize how to, but just wanted to say that I obviously did take it on an empty stomach (and I mean empty, I haven't eaten for about 40 hours  )
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Dec-01-2007, 16:00
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well, it had little to no effect. obviously i screwed up the weed. i'll be trying with better quality and a thermometer next time. should be soon 
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Dec-01-2007, 20:21
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thats crazy 2 mls would put u into space? thats some potent shit man... a shot is 50 mls so 1/25 of a shot = space is awesome... i can see what would make people think to put alot more.
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Dec-07-2007, 00:46
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Alright so I followed the recipe, 325 in the oven for about 5 mins, it was more like 295 or something because the oven wasnt going above that for whatever reason.
I only had maybe a half gram of some decent shit so I wasn't expecting too much. I broke it up as small as i could and put it on some tinfoil.
Then i put the bud and two oz of lemon extract (83% alc) into a glass jar, then put that into some boiling water. I kept it at around 165 F using a thermometer inside the bud/lemon mixture for about 25 minutes.
Next I filtered it through a coffee filter and was left with a little less than an oz of the dragon, which was pretty green.
Finally, I took maybe a 1/4 of a shot of tangere and put in about 1/4 of the dragon liquid that i had made. As soon I put the dragon into the shot it like fizzled up and turned the whole thing into a greenish whitish mixture. Looked reallly cool.
I drank that at about 5pm and by 615 i was flyin high... all the way to like 10pm when things started to simmer down and I still had some effects till about 12. Definitely wasnt expecting it to be that potent. Very chill high that left me totally in control but sfeeling great for a long time.
Cant wait to make a bigger batch. Thanks for the recipe.
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Dec-07-2007, 13:54
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^^^Always good to hear a success story.
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Dec-10-2007, 12:37
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Has anyone tried doing green dragon with Absinthe? should be easy to hide, as nobody would question a green liquid in an absinthe bottle
found a nice site in the uk, carries some 89% proof stuff
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Dec-10-2007, 12:45
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Absinthe will work, and some people just soak a lot of weed in Absithe to make green dragon. But I would recommend making the green dragon tincture acoording to Master Wu's instructions and then adding that to the Absinthe. I've added it to Creme de Menthe before, and it comppletely disappears into the green minty liqueur --- both color and weed flavor disappear. I usually make my own liqueur by making the tincture first and then just adding more Everclear, sugar, and water to get the right proportions, but it doesn't taste quite as good as just adding the tincture to another liqueur.
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I am waiting for my green dragon to finish boiling at about 168-170 for another 7 minutes. I freaked out a bit because when I baked it at 325, right when I pulled it out, vapors were coming up. They just started but then I realized that it was the water and such. I'll let you guys know how it goes.
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Dec-30-2007, 18:23
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I used not enough Bacardi 151 initially and most boiled off. I would of had maybe 3 ml of rum pressed out of about 3g of nice bud. I poured in more rum and brought it to 170 for another 5 minutes for a total time of 23 minutes.
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Jan-08-2008, 15:32
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Great recipe!!! Thank you for posting..
I did a batch myself and it came out ok for the first time but DEF boiled the 151 at too high of a temperature (didn't have a thermometer)..My lady and i felt the effects but not for a long period of time..I have a thermometer now and plan on doing another batch this evening..
I used 2 oz. of 151 and it reduced by waaaaaaaaaaay too much..probably had about a 1/3 of an ounce by the time we finished...
ANy thoughts??
Temps were probably the problem right??
Thanks folks!
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nice im gunna have to make a batch of this. or even better i should brew some white widow ale
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Just tried my 3rd batch, the 1st two were used with schwag and I used a meat thermometer which told the temp poorly. I bought a candy one which was able to properly read the temp with the electric coil stovetop. My girlfriend diligently stared at the thermometer for 20mins or so keeping the temp between 160-165 taking the pot off the burner if when it got to the upper ranges. Let filter through coffee filter and currently we have taken a good amount of it and added some beer 30 to our diet. We'll see what happens we report back with results.
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Jan-16-2008, 16:10
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Quote:
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u must have gone to weed college were do i sign up
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Yeah. This is quite a thread.
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I am so eager to try this recipe.....I went around shopping for Bacardi 151 and the only bottle I found was about $25.00....
I will eventually try this recipe.
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You should be able to buy a pint (375) of 151 for around 10$
Well a few test subjects were used and the effects of the green dragon were very powerful. The worst side effect was the destruction of patience which lead to more or less an over dosing of green dragon, as too much goes too far and leads to whiteys.
2 of the 3 girls who tried it last night ended up puking and it wasn't just the 151. They split under an oz between the three of them. It is a very enjoyable time and even once lead to the peeing of pants due to laughter.
The effects mainly lead to a lot of laughter the silly but an over does lead to spinning and paralysis aka not really being able to move their limbs around and sickness.
Over all I would recommend this recipe to anyone and it is certainly a fun way to spend 50$ if you follow the instructions and make sure to maintain proper temperature (: It will be interesting to see how the next batch turns out!
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Jan-17-2008, 17:29
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Success! It ain't a party until someone pees their pants and pukes! Glad to hear it worked out so well!
The dosing is hard to get right because of the patience thing. You don't want to waste your time not getting high, but you don't want to overdo it either. So when you don't feel it coming on right away, you want more, and then, "Woops! I think i just peed myself! .... BLAAARPFFFFFFF!!!!!!"
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snap, me and my buddy are trying this tonight with a shit load of fresh BC bud
we just got all the shit today, thermometer and jazz, i'll report back in a couple hours see how it went
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Great recipe Master Wu...
Will try it.. but wanted to ask people..
What's the success rate of doing this? Cause alot of people complain it didn't work althou they followed the instructions ...
Like Non... he tried to many time's but still couldn't make it right...
When ill first try it I will use like 0.5 grams.. and scale everything else to appropriate measures.. Will it work just aswell on a smaller scale!?
Also about the mason jar.. doesn't glass brake at hot temperature? and how can i prevent it if so?
Cheers, this is my first post btw.. 
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