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Old Jan-20-2008, 10:11
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I tried making green dragon yesterday, following directions to the tee. I did it the safe way -- 200 for 20 minutes and making a batch and then the higher temperature for 5 minutes and making another batch. I think they both had some worth -- if you mixed a dropper or two in a shot glass with some soda like seirra mist it tasted so floral and good. It was hard to judge which batch was stronger. It definitely wasn't super super strong though (I put way over an 1/8th of nice kb in there and all of my keef and about another 1/4 of regs) I think it did what it was supposed to do though? I might try making it again I just wish i knew that I was doing it completely right.

to the person in the previous post asking about the heat of the mason jars -- Put an extra lid or two under the glass if you are worried about it -- It was a little trick that I learned from growing boomers (when you put them in the pressure cooker)

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Old Jan-20-2008, 13:23
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Ok, thanks for the info... Will try this soon.. hopefully this weekend.. can't wait..
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Old Jan-21-2008, 20:25
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I just did it

I followed the direction but changed the ratio. I used a bit over 1/8th of dank. I used this chinese rice wine I have. It's 40% alcohol. Its also been infused with honey comb and ginseng for months. I use about 3/4th of a remy bottle worth of the alcohol. after I was done I had 1/2 of a remy bottle left. I took a shot 1hr and half ago. I didnt feel anything the first hour so I figure I'm going to just experiment. I still have the weed tied up in cheese cloth soaking in the bottle. So I poured 1/4th of bottle of Absinith in the green dragon bottle. I'm going to see if it does anything in a few weeks. 1hr and 30mins now, I'm feeling it. I'm high but not baked. I'm trying to have it as shot servings. I also ate a big big bowl of rice and ox tail stew after I took the shot. Maybe I should of used more weed.

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Old Jan-21-2008, 23:09
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i'm interested in trying the original method ( first post )

Would i be able to use 4.5-5 grams of "regular herb" ( not dank ) shake in 2 oz's of bacardi151 to get similar effects as an eigth of headies?
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Old Jan-22-2008, 01:08
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took another shot a few hours later. this is the one with the Absinith. it had a stronger weed smell and taste but the effect is weaker, almost no effect. Damn could it be that I diluted it?

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Old Jan-22-2008, 09:29
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Talking WoW !

This sounds delicious ...

I'm gonna get this cooking some day

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Old Jan-26-2008, 12:19
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Freds take on the Dragon!

I read and reread this thread so many times I hope I got this right.

Let me warn you I usually OVERKILL everything!

I took 32 Grams of sit on the couch weed

Ground it up in my food processor to a fine powder

Preheated my oven to 325 for 10 min then put the powder on a sheet of foil ans baked for 5 min.

When I took it out I saw the wisp of vapor! it was browner then when it went in.

Then I place the poder in a double boiler added 2 1/2 cups of 160 proof vodka broght the mixture to 170 degrees and left it for 20 min.

When that was done I strained it and had 1 1/2 cups left.

SOOOO I washed the powder 2 more times I ended up with 3 cups or 24 oz of booze. Now trying to duplicate Dragonriders recipe in which he used 4 Grams bud to get 12 oz before he added the simple syrup.
I had started with 32 grams of bud so My recipe should have been 96 oz or 12 cups at this point. However I didnt have enough vodka! so I added all I had left that brought the volume up to 7.5 cups or 60 OZ

So by my calculations My mix is 62% stronger weed to booze.

Now to get to the goal of doubling the volume with a 2 to 1 simple syrup to mineral water I figured I needed to add 5 cups of simple syrup and 2.5 cups mineral water.

Am I on the right track here????
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Not to be a dick to anyone but if you don't know things like what a water bath is or if it's OK to drink isopropyl alcohol or how to convert Celsius to Faraeheit then you probably shouldn't be doing this kind of "advanced" chemistry. And for safety's sake I would consider Pyrex.
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Old Jan-27-2008, 22:11
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Not to be a dick to anyone but if you don't know things like what a water bath is or if it's OK to drink isopropyl alcohol or how to convert Celsius to Faraeheit then you probably shouldn't be doing this kind of "advanced" chemistry. And for safety's sake I would consider Pyrex.
OOOOhhhh Yea this is "advanced Chemistry" Come on man we are just a bunch of stoner tyin to get High!!!!!!
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Old Jan-28-2008, 13:35
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Has anyone experimented with how grinded up the green is during the extraction process? If its ground up too much couldn't it get vapped much quicker? ... like what if you microwaved it? lol
Also, I have a crystal catcher on my grinder so what if I just put the crystal straight into the alcohol and heated it up?
This is just a thought I had, I don't know much about the science of this stuff.

I'm definitely gonna try this later this week though
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Old Jan-28-2008, 17:04
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Just made a batch of GD, it's dark green, and should be ultra dank.
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Old Jan-29-2008, 22:28
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Do you guys think this technique would work well for making absynth???????


I've got like 3 ounces of Wormwood lying around.
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I've tried it twice now, with no results, and think I may be going wrong at the baking stage.

Even on a very low (180F) setting, my powdered bud goes brown very quickly and there's a burnt smell about it. Even after just a few minutes it turns that way.

This results in a brownish, burnt smelling product at the end of the water bath stage, and a pungent alcohol mix.

Tastes bad and there's no effect.

Any ideas?
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Old Jan-30-2008, 07:46
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I've tried it twice now, with no results, and think I may be going wrong at the baking stage.

Even on a very low (180F) setting, my powdered bud goes brown very quickly and there's a burnt smell about it. Even after just a few minutes it turns that way.

This results in a brownish, burnt smelling product at the end of the water bath stage, and a pungent alcohol mix.

Tastes bad and there's no effect.

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Follow the dirrections.


Get an oven thermometer, then follow the dirrections.
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Old Jan-30-2008, 08:08
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Yes, I can assure you that I've followed the directions as closely as I can - can you be more specific with where you think I'm going wrong?

I have an oven thermometer - the over temperature is 180F. The cannabis is grinded into a powder, so I suppose there's a large SA:V ratio, but nothing so significant as to account for the quick burning.

Having read this thread in some detail, it seems very important that the baking stage is followed to the letter, but I'm loath to lose any more bud.

Unless someone can offer some helpful (i.e. not you Max) advice, I'll try a final time, ignoring the length the bud is in the oven, but concentrating more on the release of vapours and just taking the stuff out as soon as it starts to brown.

I am still curious as to how/why it's going brown so quickly.

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Old Jan-30-2008, 09:30
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Yes, I can assure you that I've followed the directions as closely as I can - can you be more specific with where you think I'm going wrong?

I have an oven thermometer - the over temperature is 180F. The cannabis is grinded into a powder, so I suppose there's a large SA:V ratio, but nothing so significant as to account for the quick burning.

Having read this thread in some detail, it seems very important that the baking stage is followed to the letter, but I'm loath to lose any more bud.

Unless someone can offer some helpful (i.e. not you Max) advice, I'll try a final time, ignoring the length the bud is in the oven, but concentrating more on the release of vapours and just taking the stuff out as soon as it starts to brown.

I am still curious as to how/why it's going brown so quickly.
I think it would be almost impossible to actualy "toast" the bud at 180F. I cook mine for 200F for 20 mins, and it does not really appear browned or burnt in any way --- it does get drier and loose some of its green color, but not much. So it sounds like your oven is too hot.

Do you have a separate oven thermometer that is not the built-in thermostat? Sometimes the thermostat can go bad, and it will say the oven is being held at a particular temp (say 180F), but it is actually much higher or lower. So you might want to put a sepaate oven thermometer in there to verify that the thermostat is working properly.

The other possibility is that the oven is still pre-heating when you put in the bud, and it is getting hot spots as it heats up. The burner elements get extremeley hot as the oven heats up, so the oven may read 180F, but next to an element it may be much much higher. Make sure to set the temp, turn on the oven, and let the oven pre-heat for 10 -15 minutes so that it gets up to an even temperature. Then put in your bud.

Those are my suggestions. Good luck!
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Old Jan-30-2008, 10:30
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Mine worked perfectly! I ground up the bud in a food processor, PREHEATED the oven with the cookie sheet in the oven, then after about 15 min of preheating I places the stash on the sheet. Closed the door set the timer ti 5 min and woolaa!

You can NOT hurt the thc unless you get hotter than 380 or something. It will NOT vap off at 325! When I tryed this at lower temps it did not work for me! I got a bunch of buddies now that want MORE GD!!!!!!!!!!
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Mine worked perfectly! I ground up the bud in a food processor, PREHEATED the oven with the cookie sheet in the oven, then after about 15 min of preheating I places the stash on the sheet. Closed the door set the timer ti 5 min and woolaa!

You can NOT hurt the thc unless you get hotter than 380 or something. It will NOT vap off at 325! When I tryed this at lower temps it did not work for me! I got a bunch of buddies now that want MORE GD!!!!!!!!!!
Fred, if your avatar is any indication, you could just decarboxylize using your own farts. Can you keep that up for 5 minutes?

Next time I make GD, I'm going to try the 325F for 5 minutes. Master Wu said he thought that was better than the 200F for 20 that I was using. My method worked pretty well for me, but I want to try the other way too.

Glad to hear your GD was a success!
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Old Jan-30-2008, 12:46
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Thats how I heat my grow in the winter!!!!!

I owe you a big thank you Dragon Your recipe is by far the best tasting! More peeps seem to like it better as original is too much booze for some! I think its also very important to follow the shot with a beer!!!!
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Old Jan-30-2008, 13:19
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Thats how I heat my grow in the winter!!!!!

I owe you a big thank you Dragon Your recipe is by far the best tasting! More peeps seem to like it better as original is too much booze for some! I think its also very important to follow the shot with a beer!!!!
Ha ha! Glad you enjoyed the recipe. I thought it was a bit more drinkable that way too. And a beer chaser is definitely the way to go!

I also found that if you mix it with Creme de Menthe, the grassy flavor seems to just disappear into the mint --- so if you have a few people who still don't like the taste, that's one thing you could try.

I just went back to check your earlier posts. I had missed them the first time around. Did you end up with something like a gallon of green dragon? Woooohoooo! That plus a keg of beer and 50 of your closest friends --- we could send a whole colony to Mars!
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Old Jan-31-2008, 07:45
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I got 40 2 oz bottles out of it. Plus what me and the boys had already drank!
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I found that green dragon in orange juice gives the juice a spicy kinda taste and will have you feeling it much faster.


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How bad does this stink up a house..and is it really only two ounces of alchy? thats like two shots i think?
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How bad does this stink up a house..and is it really only two ounces of alchy? thats like two shots i think?

If you follow Master Wu Recipe yes its only 2 ounces, However if you follow Dragonrider and my recipe you will yield much more. You simply take Master wu s Recipe and make a double or triple or ????? whatever size batch you want to make. Its up to you... Just follow the procedure and you will be fine~!!!!!!!
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Old Feb-02-2008, 19:59
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Let me tell you! Be Warned if your a light wieght be prepared! I have had a few peeps tellin me storys of getting HIGH AS FOOK ON THIS! so dose it easy!!!!!!!!!!!
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