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Old Feb-03-2008, 02:43
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How bad does this stink up a house..and is it really only two ounces of alchy? thats like two shots i think?
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If you follow Master Wu Recipe yes its only 2 ounces, However if you follow Dragonrider and my recipe you will yield much more. You simply take Master wu s Recipe and make a double or triple or ????? whatever size batch you want to make. Its up to you... Just follow the procedure and you will be fine~!!!!!!!
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Let me tell you! Be Warned if your a light wieght be prepared! I have had a few peeps tellin me storys of getting HIGH AS FOOK ON THIS! so dose it easy!!!!!!!!!!!
Yeah, like Fred said, if you follow Master Wu's procedure exactly, it makes about 2 ounces, and that is like two shot glasses. But the number of DOSES is a lot more than two doses. It's as many as 24 doses when I make it, so you have to measure it out with an eye dropper. If you were to just drink a "shot" at that concentration, you would go to the moon, and never come back --- it would not be very fun.

I don't like measuring it out in droppers, so I like to mix the super-concentrated tincture into more alcohol, sugar and water to get something you can measure out in shot glasses. The two ounces turns into 24 ounces, and you can just drink a shot glass full and have a great time. The procedure is earlier in the thread.

And also, like Fred said, you have to be carefull with the doses, or you will get uncomfortably high and have a crappy time.
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Old Feb-03-2008, 11:24
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eh i'm no light weight..just trying to give my lungs a break. so how bad does it stink up a house
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Old Feb-04-2008, 01:21
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eh i'm no light weight..just trying to give my lungs a break. so how bad does it stink up a house
Baking the weed for the decarboxylization process really stinks up the whole house, but it is very important if you want good results. The water bath process smells a little bit, but no too bad.
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Old Feb-04-2008, 07:44
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Keep you fan on, its no worse then when you make butter
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Old Feb-05-2008, 16:57
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will this work with buds freshly cut from a flowering plant?

(say one in its flushing stage or about to go in its flushing stage)
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Old Feb-05-2008, 17:14
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Yes it will work BUT you need to dry it first!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old Feb-05-2008, 17:38
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drying as in the 5 minutes @325 in the oven?

or should i think about doing it longer etc?

IE how should i modify the recipe to account for the bud being just cut from a plant?
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Old Feb-05-2008, 17:45
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drying as in the 5 minutes @325 in the oven?

or should i think about doing it longer etc?

IE how should i modify the recipe to account for the bud being just cut from a plant?

NO!!!!!!!!!! Its needs to be dry first. The the oven at 325. This is not something that will happen if your in a hurry! Take your time, Trust me its worth the wait!
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damnit!

I already chopped the nugs into pieces :/
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Old Feb-05-2008, 19:02
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Thats ok dude they will dry faster now!
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dragonrider / anyone else who may know,

Is it worth double soaking the weed? Currently I make gd by using 1 oz of everclear per 1/8 oz of weed. I soak it once at 170 deg. for 20-30 minutes. This has worked without fail. I wonder however if I'm leaving THC behind. Has anyone sampled gd from a 2nd soaking to check its potency? If anyone knows if a 2nd soaking increases yield, can you please let me know how you do this (times, temp, volume of everclear, etc...). Thanks!!
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Old Feb-07-2008, 13:25
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Is it worth double soaking the weed? Currently I make gd by using 1 oz of everclear per 1/8 oz of weed. I soak it once at 170 deg. for 20-30 minutes. This has worked without fail. I wonder however if I'm leaving THC behind. Has anyone sampled gd from a 2nd soaking to check its potency? If anyone knows if a 2nd soaking increases yield, can you please let me know how you do this (times, temp, volume of everclear, etc...). Thanks!!
I do a second extraction, but I've never actually tested if it made a difference. I just always suspect that there is some THC left behind, and I want to get it. If you think about it, if you are only making 1 ounce of GD with 1/8 oz of weed, then the doses are pretty strong --- maybe just 1 or 2 mls for a dose. There's no way to squeeze all the liquid out of the bud, so there is probably a few mls left behind just with GD still absorbed in the weed residue.

After you do the first extraction, save the GD you have extracted in a separate container and put the squeezed-out weed residue back in the cup that you used for heating. Add in more Everclear. If you used an ounce the first time, maybe use an ounce the second time. (I always use a couple of ounces the first time and a couple the second time. But I don't make a super-concentrated tincture. I like mine to be dissolved in more liquor, so it doesn't matter if the amount of alcohol is a lot higher during the extraction.)

I generally use the heated water bath for the second extraction but not as long, maybe 5 mins. If there is any sticky residue left in the cup, especially if there is a ring of residue from the boiling, be sure to use a spoon to wash that down into the liquid and get it disolved --- there is alot of THC in that stuff that will just stay stuck to the cup if you don't get it dissolved. Then extract the second "squeezing" and add it to the first.

Even though you probably capture more THC, if the end volume is now twice what you had with one extraction, then the concetration is probably close to half --- you'll need to about double the dose to get it right.

Good luck and let us know how it goes!
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Old Feb-07-2008, 14:14
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I washed it 3 times! I agree with DR get it all!!!!!!!
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Old Feb-07-2008, 15:28
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Thanks for the advice dragonrider. One correction, I use 2 oz. of everclear per 8th. Next time I make a batch of gd, I'll try a 2nd extration and sample it separately to see how much THC is in there.
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hey, just a question..

would heating the alcohol to too high a temperature (like for example 'boiling point' or so of pure ethanol alcohol) make the thc loosen up from the alcohol molecules? reason I ask is because it's been hard to keep the temperature at 170, it either goes way under, or way over, the way my stove works. and I've been trying the way over but not to boil the alcohol. I dont do it with 151 proof rum, I do it with 80-90 proof , so I guess the boiling point would also be higher. still that alcohol in there could fizzle along with the water.

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hey, just a question..

would heating the alcohol to too high a temperature (like for example 'boiling point' or so of pure ethanol alcohol) make the thc loosen up from the alcohol molecules? reason I ask is because it's been hard to keep the temperature at 170, it either goes way under, or way over, the way my stove works. and I've been trying the way over but not to boil the alcohol. I dont do it with 151 proof rum, I do it with 80-90 proof , so I guess the boiling point would also be higher. still that alcohol in there could fizzle along with the water.
Hotter is better. I would not worry too much about the heat other than to keep the water in the water bath from boiling too vigorously around the cup with the GD in it. You don't want too much bubbling and sloshing going on just to keep stuff from spilling. I usually get a good boil going in the water at first, then back it off to a decent simmer. If you are using very pure alcohol, then I guess it can boil kind of funny and get sort of a "burp" that will blow liquid out of the cup, so maybe that is why the original instructions made a point of keeping it to 170. But if you are using vodka or 151, I've never seen that happen. Also, if too much of the alcohol seems to evaporate because of higher temperatures, just pour in some more.
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I guess I dont count!
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By the way, is that picture on the deck of an aircraft carrier? Maybe if they used a little more steam in tha catapult, they wouldn't need the "after burners!"

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Wow Talk about Blasted!!! I was totally blasted last nite!
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What if I make a batch of honey oil with butane extraction and mix it with grain alcohol?, would it be similar?, I figure this way I don´t have to worry about temps and it might be slightly easier, but I don´t now if butane leaves any toxic residue. Just an idea. Cool recipe manĦĦĦĦ
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That will not be as effective. See you would smoke the oil so it would be burned. since in GD your not smoking it, you MUST heat it to decarboxylize it. With out that step it would be like eating weed NO HIGH.

Brownies work because you bake them. You MUST have decarboxylization for the thc to work
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Smokez: Your problem is using too low of proofage alcohol. You need to use HIGH PROOF stuff. And ONLY drinking alcohol. Ispropyl or Isobutyl WILL MAKE YOU BLIND. Bad stuff.

Maxsuperdanks: If you've never made Absinthe by yourself before, I wouldn't start out with it. The reason it's banned in the states isn't because people were dying when they were drinking La Fee's Absinthe, but were dying when they drank Billy Bob's Hoedown Green Fairy version. It's easy to muck up.

Non: If you were using 90 proof stuff all the times you were doing it, that could be your problem. You also said most of the time you were using shake, which was probably your second problem. You need to increase the amount of alcohol you use, 90 proof is 45% booze, and everyone else is using 151 or 190, which are 75.5% and 95% respectively.

I am also not sure if using lower strength hooch is even advisable, because the alcohol might have some ionic bonds to the compounds that give the lower strength stuff it's flavor. And if you evaporate the booze when you heat it, then you break the bonds, and it never sucks out the THC from the stuff. I would only do this with OVER 75% drinking alcohol. If you can't find 151 or equivalent in your area, smuggle that crap in!
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Chico loco: If you do a butane extraction hunt down one of the cans that has the 99% additive free butane on it. Some smoke shops and a few tool stores carry it (butane torches work best with the pure stuff) so it shouldn't be too hard to find. I wonder if you did a decarboxylation with some bud you were gonna make oil with if it'd work better....
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Maxsuperdanks: If you've never made Absinthe by yourself before, I wouldn't start out with it. The reason it's banned in the states isn't because people were dying when they were drinking La Fee's Absinthe, but were dying when they drank Billy Bob's Hoedown Green Fairy version. It's easy to muck up.
People were dying?


I extracted 3.5 grams of wormwood into 200 ml's of 151, boiled down to 100 ml's of liquid.

Shit makes you feel nuts.



Is the Thujone that toxic that it can kill people? I've never heard of people dying just because of absinthe, they usually just go too far.
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"Bake the pot at 325 degrees Fahrenheit for 5 minutes. I chop mine in a mini-prep (or chop by hand) until it is quite fine. Then I spread it out on a piece of aluminum foil which is placed directly on the oven rack. If you place the foil on a baking pan you will need to account for the additional mass of the pan which will increase your baking time. Pre-baking should stink up the house."

Wouldn't baking the pot just vaporize it? Resin Evaporates at around 300 - 400 *F
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