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*yawn* okay I must again throw in my two cents.

You argue that it is not logical for the US to conspire against its own people and attack them (ie 9/11)

well whats more logical, a bunch of dirt farmers, from the other side of the world getting pissed off and suiciding their own people into a building that was MADE TO WITHSTAND A BLAST FROM A COMMERCIAL AIRPLANE

or option B- the government realized they could never go to war without some major catastrophe, so they proceeded to destroy the towers, then launch a war that netted Bushy boy and his little buddies BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS UPON BILLIONS of dollars

hmm, wow thats a toughy


seriously people, do you really believe that a passport, made out of paper- SURVIVED the plane crash (temperatures high enough to apparently "bring down the towers") then it managed to fall to the ground, and out of the Thousands of tons of debris covering the entire surroundings of the WTC was "picked up" almost immediately and turned into officials who then immediately "knew" it was al queda

Seriously??? your serious? all the black boxes (except 1), which are specifically designed to withstand plane crashes, were destroyed?



more you say?

Amount of money allocated for the 1986 Challenger disaster investigation: $75 million
Amount of money allocated for the 2004 Columbia disaster investigation: $50 million
Amount of money allocated for Clinton-Lewinsky investigation: $40 million
Amount of money allocated for the 9/11 Commission: $14 million

oh you need more?

Days until an investigation was ordered into the Pearl Harbour attack: 9
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Kennedy assassination: 7
Days until an investigation was ordered into the Challenger disaster: 7
Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the sinking of the Titanic: 6
Number of days until an investigation was ordered into the 9/11 attacks: 411

okay I know you have probably seen this statistics before, but do you seriously still not see any sort of correlation between them?

TV is slowly killing our nation, we will believe any crap that box of stupidity spits in our face. People watch fox news as if it were gospel.

once again im not going to flat out say the government planned out and executed the attacks all by themselves, but the official story does not add up, at all
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Just one more time:

Who, or what group, were the master mind/s behind this?

Have a good one!

dude, your kidding yourself if you think bush is anything other than a puppet.

the president has little influence, its his whole administration and all the people that he is able to get into positions of power that really change things.

Bush is just there to act like a Good Ole' American, who fights terrorists to the death, and if you aint with us, you against us! /yawn
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okay I got even more.

your seriously telling me, that the pentagon, the building designed and created to be the central organized point and backbone of our military and intelligence, was able to be struck by a friggin airplane?

Oh I see I see, of course! they some how accidently turned off their friggin SURFACE TO AIR MISSLES that day. poor ole johny the janitor must have bumped the "off switch" yeah that explains it.

You seriously think with the billions and billions of dollars spent each year that they would spend a little money to defend the pentagon? OH WAIT! THEY DO! google it, search it, they damn well do, they just must have been "turned off" that day, to save electricity or something /YAWN

WTC7- Do I even need to comment?

Put options - nuff' said

When I was younger my father took me to a ship yard he was employed at where they frequently work on military vessels. All aircraft carriers (circa 1999) are all armed with radar guided anti air cannons, they fire at ridiculous Rounds per minute and the bullets (they are essentially just giant chunks of metal) cost 15$ a piece (circa 1999)

You cannot get a plane, let alone a missle anywhere friggin near an aircraft carrier without it being destroyed immediately.

I know the whitehouse has the same system.

but the pentagon doesnt?

oh wait...... it does...


musta just been turned off, right guys
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exactly, the evidence that 9/11 was something other than a bunch of freedom hating muslims is absolutely overwhelming...

but the burden of proof for those who don't believe it is set at an impossible standard, whereas those who believe the freedom hating muslim conspiracy don't have to provide any evidence.

those who want to will look into it, those who wish to remain ignorant will do so, all you can do is show people something they may have not considered before and may be willing to look into for themselves.
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exactly, the evidence that 9/11 was something other than a bunch of freedom hating muslims is absolutely overwhelming...
Only in the minds of the sheep following Alex Jones.

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but the burden of proof for those who don't believe it is set at an impossible standard, whereas those who believe the freedom hating muslim conspiracy don't have to provide any evidence.
WE HAVE supplied plenty.....the problem is that some would rather believe the rantings of some "so called journalist" out of Texas. So one last time....what exactly hit the pentagon on 9-11? IF it wasn't a plane, what type of missile was it? After TWO YEARS of debating this issue I'd really like to know exactly what type of bomb.

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those who want to will look into it, those who wish to remain ignorant will do so, all you can do is show people something they may have not considered before and may be willing to look into for themselves.
So if I don't kiss the ass of that assclown in Texas I'm ignorant? LMFAO!!!

Buy his b.s., buy his videos, buy his hats and t-shirts.....THEN when you wasted your cash explain to me why Al-Jazerra hasn't had a one on one interview with Osama Bin Hiden about how he's been framed.

J.F.K. couldn't hid Monroe, Nixon couldn't hide Watergate, Clinton can't get away with a hummer in the Oval Office but G.W. can hide the biggest conspiracy of all time that cost the lives of thousands of people, GET REAL!

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It's amazing to see that people still believe this tripe! Good thing for these wingnuts this site has a 'Conspiracy' forum, otherwise this silliness would constantly be finding its way into the trash bin... where it belongs.
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It's amazing to see that people still believe this tripe! Good thing for these wingnuts this site has a 'Conspiracy' forum, otherwise this silliness would constantly be finding its way into the trash bin... where it belongs.
It used to be in the politics forum.....

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Well there is obviously something fishy if the government wont release some easy info
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It used to be in the politics forum.....

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LMAO... why am I not surprised?

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Only in the minds of the sheep following Alex Jones.


Alex Jones is out there exposing the "truth"... and god damn is he ever cashing in on it.
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read and think......and by think i mean think for yourself don't let others think for you.

The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True by Dr. David Ray Griffin
The Destruction of the World Trade Center: Why the Official Account Cannot Be True

Scientific Evidence Official 9/11 Story is a Lie
by Frank Hoogerbeets
DMC - Scientific Evidence Official 9/11 Story is a Lie

STILL UNANSWERED 9/11 MIRACLES
Allen L Roland's Radio Weblog

Thermite and the WTC Collapses
Thermite and the WTC Collapses

The First Fifteen Minutes of September 11th
Former Air Traffic Controller Robin Hordon speaks out
on 9/11, NORAD and what should have happened on 9/11.
By Jeremy Baker
The First Fifteen Minutes of September 11th

This is only the tip of a fucking huge iceberg of information.
This is only for those who want to open their minds. Free your mind and the rest will follow.
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we all know it was the nazis who blew up the towers, come on
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I just have one question that nobody has been able to answer me that pretty much throws a wrench into this whole 9/11 conspiracy thing; If the Bush administration was able to orchestrate 9/11, why the hell couldn't they get WMDs into Iraq? If it wasn't Al-Qaeda, why would they blame them and not Iran or Iraq?

Did our government know about the attacks ahead of time? Of course, and they welcomed the attacks, just like we welcomed Pearl Harbor as a reason to get involved with WW2, however that doesn't mean we were behind 9/11, or had it all setup ourselves? No, that seems a bit nutty to believe.
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If the Bush administration was able to orchestrate 9/11, why the hell couldn't they get WMDs into Iraq?
they did, the US sold Iraq WMDs back in the 80s
Rumsfeld Hussein photo - Google Search
Iraq WMD's, US involvement ??? - Corporate Media Watch - tribe.net
How Did Iraq Get Its WMD? - We Sold Them To Saddam

However they didn't find any of them because the U.N. destroyed them, Saddam told this to people, it is recorded both in video and paper. There was no need to plant any WMDs on Iraq, how do i know? because no WMds were planted, we went to Iraq, we destroyed the living shit out of there, then they told us that they couldn't find any WMDs, we didn't give a shit, now we are still in Iraq, people are still dying there everyday, we are still not giving a shit, overall: WTF

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Well that one is very simple, if they were to blame Iran or Iraq then we would know who our enemy is. When they blame "Al-Qaeda" what we think of is a bunch of people in the middle of west bubble fuck chillin in caves. We do not know who they are, where they come from, what they really want...and so on. Of course enough research will provide you answers to those questions, i suggest you research.
It's like what Dumbledore said, it is the unknown that we are most afraid of. And while that was a fictional character in a fictional world, that statement is a very real one.
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pretty obvious when you consider the buildings were blown to dust in midair and collapsed at free fall speed...

good to see someone else using their noggin and realizing the official conspiracy theory is bogus...

Former Governor Jesse Ventura: WTC Collapse A Controlled Demolition
Navy veteran and movie star savages official story, says media covering up truth about attacks Paul Joseph Watson
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Former Minnesota Governor Jesse Ventura vehemently savaged the official 9/11 story on a syndicated national radio show today, saying the WTC collapsed like a controlled demolition and was pulverized to dust as he also highlighted the impossible 10 second free fall speed of the towers.
Appearing on The Alex Jones Show, Ventura said that his initial reaction to 9/11 was much like most people at the time, and he accepted the official story outright, a response he now regrets because he was in a position of power and could have used it to raise a lot of pointed questions.
"I kicked myself when it initially happened that the light didn't go off but I was so shocked that this thing had even taken place that I apologize for not being more aware," said Ventura, adding that watching Loose Change at the insistence of his son was part of the catalyst for his wake up call.
"To me questions haven't been answered and are not being answered about 9/11," said Ventura, before highlighting the collapse of Building 7, a 47-story tall skyscraper that was not hit by a plane but collapsed in its own footprint in the late afternoon of September 11.
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"Two planes struck two buildings....but how is it that a third building fell 5 hours later?" asked Ventura, "How could this building just implode into its own footprint 5 hours later - that's my first question - the 9/11 Commission didn't even devote one page to that in their big volume of investigation," added the former Governor.
Ventura then explored how it was possible that all three buildings could rapidly collapse at almost free fall speed.
"How could those buildings fall at the speed of gravity - if you put a stopwatch on them both of those World Trade Center buildings were on the ground in ten seconds - how can that be?" asked Ventura.
"If you took a billiard ball and dropped it from the height of the World Trade Center in a vacuum it would hit the ground in 9.3 seconds and if you took that same billiard ball and dropped it 10 stories at a time and merely stopped it and started it it would take 30 seconds - if you dropped it every floor of the World Trade Center to the ground, simply stopping and starting it on gravity it would take over 100 seconds to reach the ground," he surmised.

The former wrestling star then questioned how low-temperature burning jet fuel could melt steel.
"Jet fuel is four fifths kerosene - which is not a hot burning fuel - and they wanted us to believe it melted these steel structured girders and caused these buildings to pancake collapse to the ground?" he stated.
"I was on the site within two weeks after it happened and I saw none of these pancakes - wouldn't they all be piled up in a huge mass on the ground and yet everything was blown into dust - when you look at it from that aspect none of it makes any sense," said Ventura.
"Never before in the annuls of history has a fire caused a steel structure building to fall to the ground like these two did," he concluded.
Having undergone Basic Underwater Demolition Seal training, Ventura is speaking from an experienced standpoint and he unequivocally stated that he thought the buildings were deliberately imploded.
"Upon looking at the film in super-slow motion and the way the buildings fell and comparing that to the way that they do like a controlled demolition of a hotel in Las Vegas, they both fell identical."
"I did watch the film of Building 7 going down and in my opinion there's no doubt that that building was brought down with demolition," said the former Governor.
Ventura also questioned the lack of wreckage outside of the Pentagon after Flight 77 allegedly struck the building.
"When I was watching Loose Change with a friend of mine - he happens to work for a company that helps build the Boeing airplanes and they said that when the engines completely disappeared and were destroyed, his response was, excuse my French - bullshit!," said Ventura.
"I turned to him and said why and he said because they're made of titanium steel - they can't disintegrate."
Ventura said that the corporate media were going to continue to cover-up the truth about 9/11, but that the number of credible people speaking out and increasing education and knowledge about the subject would eventually reap dividends.
"We don't want to lose our country, after all it's still our country and until they put us down we have the power," Ventura concluded.
Click here to listen to the full interview.
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Sorry to say it my friends.I work on buildings here in Mobile, Alabamathe number 1 fastest growing metro city in the world and yes we have the boeing contract!My father owns a contruction bussinus.First we need to address the FACTS of 9/11!

1.)No video was realesed from ANY of the airports that day.If a arab boarded,hijacked,and slammed a plane in the building then why was the airport tapes NEVER shown to the American public?If I walked in a store and stole a tip jar and ran wouldn't a video tape if they had it win the case?
2.)I helped build Alabama's first skyscrapper.And it was prolly a quarter of the Twin Towers and to be honest with you ALL buildings from 1985 were reinforced with what we southerners call "anti-plane wigs"basicly steel so thick the gas from the planes can't go trough it thus the basises(foundation) of the building won't callaspe or "domino!"
3.)Bush is evil sorry all we heard was "Saddan Hussian,Suddan Hussian,Tyrant this,Tyrant that!"Is it [i]funny[i]that the terriost suddenly attacked us when he was in office and never realy did much agian?!It's BEEN 7 YEARS!!!If we was in a "Holy War"with Islam they would have done hitt us again!
4.)Anti-America compains all over youtube look them up,we Americans arn't the only one saying someting is fishy.
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