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Also N2 ,what do you think about doing a buncha drinking a couple days prior?
and whats your word with compounding,Ive been burning heavy, How high can my levels get before this might not fly?
I know this thread is old but for people who read it and wonder, drinking a lot of water or fluids days before the test is useless. As long as you are properly hydrated you will not be able to raise your kidney's filtration rate by loading up on water. You kidneys will regulate your blood volume to adjust for the increased water intake and you will not be able to increase your kidney's output of THC metabolites.
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Hey N2, i was just wondering how necessary raising your creatine levels are, and where you can find creatine suppliments if it is necessary. Thanks.
Creatine supplements can be found at health food stores or you can eat red meat. This needs to be done 24-72 hours before the test. Some tests will test for creatinine clearance while some do not. It depends on the type of test and how much money the people who are testing you want to spend. What is your weight and height? A big, muscular person will naturally have a higher creatinine clearance than a skinny, little person.
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Hi, new to the board. Viewing tons lately, I will be using the dillution process next wednesday for my court date.

I am 5'9, 165lbs. (smoking for the past year quite a bit has really plumped me up) and will be quitting smoking for 10 days before i try. I am also using Anti-Toxin 7, niacin pills, and tons of exercise.

I'll be sure to let you all know how it works out. Thanks N2 for the help so far!
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Get a home drug test if you want to know for sure if you can pass a drug test. Drinking lots of water for days and days before the test will not help you get clean quicker. All that water will not make your kidneys work better.
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So it is written, so it shall be done. Great info!!!

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its not that hard my dude drink a bunch of water to dilute the THC sum coffee or cranberry juice(same reason) and take sum b-2 vitamins to turn ur piss yellow

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Young hustler, that was some bad advice for your first post. This sticky details in great depth the proper method to dilute. It is not just drink a bunch of water. It is drinking a measured amount of fluid and the preferred fluids are sports drinks. Then there are the creatine supplements or eating red meat for 2-4 days before the test, the rolaids, the aspirin and a few more tricks. Before you post in the drug testing forum you should realize that you need to post accurate information and that sometimes people's jobs and freedom depend on this so this is not the right forum to post some junk just to look cool.
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What exactly does the Aspirin do? I can't take that for health reasons so I'm wondering what I could replace with that. Also, about how much red meat should one eat? I typically eat a lot of fast food burgers, is that enough or should I be having lots of steak?

One last question, I typically find out about my random drug tests the night before the test. Usually I know when I go home at around 7 or 8PM, and the drug test will be around 10AM the next day. Just wondering if anybody has some tips for a short notice test as this!

Thank you for such a detailed and simple to read thread, it sure is nice to know I don't need to spend $30+ on some scam drink!
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i got high and took the test the next day and passed. i just made some thing up about my doctor telling me i need more fluid in my system. lol
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wow dude this guide is the fucking SHIT. I smoked for the first time in 5 weeks on SuperBowl Sunday because i was so fucking pissed about the Bears (normally a 2-3 time daily smoker) was fuckin ripped off my ass, felt retarded. Then i woke up remembered i was pissed and smoked with my friends again, about an hour later got the call from my mom that i had to go get drug tested. Got some clean piss from the only friend of mine that doesn't smoke but then i found out i was being blood tested so i freaked out cuz i didn't know shit about bloodtests and especially since i boomed last weekend so i just told them i smoked. Their rule was that i loose my car till im clean, here it is Tuesday the day after i smoked, followed these guidelines and pissed clean about 30 minutes ago. Happy to say ill be driving my car to school tomorrow even though its fuckin broke but anyways thanks bro.
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Is it b-2 or b-12 we're looking for? I was unable to find a b-2
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It is B-12.
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Here I go!

I have my pee test today at 3pm. I have read N2's dilution guide over and over agian..... it makes much sense. I have also done it before, but i wasn't following N2's advice. I pieced the information together for my self when i had my drug test last year for another job.

N2 has done all the research and work for us.

The aspirin works!, the improvement of using gatorade and a bit o salt . also makes great sense and i will be doing that. as of now 6am. I havn't been able to sleep. When i close my eyes all i see is a meter that reads ng/ml. LOL, it bounces between 30 and 50 ng/ml. and i wake up every hour on the hour.
I am 5 8, 125lbs, not fat at all. But i smoke 24/7 like breakfast , lunch and dinner! ie. joint with coffee in the morn, blunt after work and after dinner. lol


i have abstained for several weeks about 2.5 to 3 weeks. i am still peeing dirty if i don't dilute. But i did a test run. while overdosing on creatine. i would feel better subbing but i don't have a donor. Any ways i will post my outcome. I'm 95% sure i will pass with neon yellow colors! if i don't its my own fault for not drinking enough. I just hope they don't make me wait long i plan to have my bladder very overloaded. to almost painful proportions.
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Ok guys, I really need some help. I get drug tested in 5 days, and it's going to be one of those where I piss in the cup, they put the strip in, if I'm positive, they send the results off, etc...

Anyways, I've only ever failed a drug test once, and I only gave myself about 48hrs of being clean when I failed that. This time I'm going to run at least a mile every morning plus workout, drink nothing but water and cranberry juice, and boost my creatine levels with some actijube(stuff tastes like fruit snacks, www.actijube.com).

The day of my test, I will follow the procedures with aspirin, vitamin b12, and constant fluid/water intake. Do you think I have enough time and that I will pass? I've been a frequent, 5-6 days a week toker for a long time, but in the past week or so I've cut down on how much I've smoked to try and lower my tolerance a bit. I'm about 169lbs, 5'10, and I have a pretty good metabolism.

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careful not to od on vitamins like i did... i felt nausea all day.. puked once. other than that... all is well, don't know test results yet, but confident.
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I have a question i just took my ua and i didnt take any vitamins or nothing like that.. but 2 days before i drank the shit out of some tea, then yesterday i took an absolute de-tox(not nowing that the Lab would be closed) after that i drank just tea and that was it, and now today i have just drank water and nothing but do you think i will still be ok?
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UPDATE INFORMATION

Using a sport drink such as GatorAid or PowerAid in place of the water for step 2 of the dilution guidelines will help raise the specific gravity of your specimin and help lessen the possability of a negitive-dilute result.
Hope that helps.
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I am a new member- went scouring for information a few days ago because of an upcoming whiz quiz for a job that took me completely by surprise. I had used a combination of dilution/exercise and fruit pectin in ths past with good results but have gained a little weight since my last whiz quiz (munch munch). Anyway, im pretty sure the sample went to a lab with a mass spectrometer- no simple dip test here- they had to send it to a neighboring state! Im a habitual/heavy smoker - take intermittent rips all day long rather than get completely bizzaro all at once, but I was pretty confident so i smoked a few biz-oles about 19 hours beforehand (i think i read somewhere that weed impairs your judgement) took about 15 multi vitamins total in that time.downed a gallon of water 17 hours before test. 2.5 hours before the test i downed a 64oz of orangegatorade mixed with fruit pectin. Voided fluids 2 times before hand (15 min after drink and 1 hour after drink) Oh lord a mercy! When i finally got through all the paperwork at the lab I had to pee so bad! (your third piss after pectin is the best! Dont waste it!) Anyway, put urine from the middle/last part of stream in the cup and i tell you, i had never enjoyed not having to urinate so much in my entire life. Just got a call back today saying all's well! And the best part, is that i know at least for myself that for the time being, i dont ever have to worry 'bout the little plastic cup with the temp strip. Just thought id drop a little science on y'all- orange gatorade/multi vit's/liquid fruit pectin. And now, if you'll excuse me (cough)
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Great service guys!

I will tell you my situation first, and praise you afterwards.

I finally get offered a networking job at a very good company and they want me to work on their computers, this is after I have been applying for these jobs for 5 years on and off and I've been smoking very heavily for about 9 years solid up until 4 days before the test. Anyways I got the job offer pending a drug test. So I freak out, start chugging cranberry juice, and going to the bathroom but not to pee. *Cranberry gives you the runs* Anyways, soon enough I came across this website and it's awesome members who provide incredibly valuable information. I knew that you could dillute your piss, but I didn't know that you could cover it up. So I did exactly this ::

I Smoked Monday night, test was Saturday morning. Thats 4 full days of being sober. I ate a large fatty steak meal the night before the test, that is the ONLY thing I did for my creatine levels. My test was 20-50 gc/ms what ever the hell that means. So my test is at 9:30 monday morning. I woke up at 5:00 AM and started to drink 1 quart of gatorade and popped 4 aspirin. I downed about 1 quart by 6:00 and started to pee quite frequently (10-20 minutes in between.) I then crushed up 2 Qtabs and took 2 Qtabs whole. I crushed two Qtabs in hopes that it would help me get more creatinine in my system, which it technically could not have done. ANYWAYS - These Qtabs have 11000% your daily value of RIBOFLAVIN which is vitamin B2 which is why some of you are having trouble finding it. If you need it get Qtabs - they cost about 20-30 bucks and have helpful things in them for the dilution process. They should be at any natural food store or GNC (GNC wants like 44 bucks, ripoff a-holes) The Qtabs are a total of 10 pills which I took throughout the 4 hour period of time, the last 6 I took in the last hour and a half before the test so the b2 did its job. Moving on - by 7 AM I drank a total of 2 quarts of gatorade and at 7 AM I popped 2 more aspirin and I popped 4 rolaids. Everytime I peed I drank some more gatorade. by 8 AM I had drank 1 more quart of gatorade and a little bit of cranberry juice. 8 AM I popped 2 rolaids and 2 extra strength tums and started to pop the 6 Qtabs. 3 then 3 more about 30 minutes later. Also popped 1 or 2 more aspirin at 8 AM. With the LAST quart of gatorade (the 4th quart) I poured around 2 tablespoons of tablesalt into the gatorade and drank that, tastes gross. I made sure I peed a couple times before I left. I had to pee something terrible when I finally took my test, but it was nice and yellow when it came out, it was ALMOST curiously green, but it DID look natural for the most part. Just to be safe I put my midstream pee into the cup and the rest into the pot. I didn't fill it too incredibly much, I dunno if that matters. I'm just being precise. I had probably peed a total of 15 times before I took my actual test. From what I am understanding this is overkill - But I am pretty sure they tested me for specific gravity and creatinine levels because this company has money coming out of its bum and they took 3+ days to test it in a lab. Anyways I got a call today at about 1:00 PM Wednesday - 4 days after I took my test - and they said to come in to start on Monday. So I assume that means I passed the test!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now for the praise -
EVERYBODY, from the people that put this website together to the random posters who give their stories, deserve a big pat on the back. You are helping regular people live regular lives in the face of a ruthless beast who consumes our personal rights and freedoms seemingly on a daily basis. I am more then appreciative to the the admins for keeping this site up and available to the public. I also want to thank Imn2Pot but he definitely does not deserve all the credit. But you are very informed and I found most everything you said incredibly helpful and relaxing. Keep up this excellent work, EVERYBODY!

Summary **This is WITHOUT ANY Creatine suppliment, you should take a normal dosage of creatine suppliment if possible for 2 and 3 days before the test**

1. 4 hours before test - Drink 1 quart gatorade pop 4 aspirin, 4 Qtabs
2. 3 hours before test - Drink 1 quart gatorade (optional 2 aspirin)
3. 2 hours before test - Drink 1 quart gatorade pop 2 aspirin, 4 rolaids,3Qtabs
4. 1 hour before test - Drink 1 quart gatorade+2tblspn Tablesalt, 2 rolaids, 2 tums, 3Qtabs, 2 aspirin

Body size may vary the amounts of liquid and other pills, but I think this is a surefire way to pass. I am 6'0 210 lbs mid 20's average metabolism.

THANKS!!!
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DILUTION: aka WATER LOADING
FOR BEST RESULTS ABSTAIN FOR A BARE MINIMUM OF 48 HOURS BEFORE THE TEST AND THE LONGER, OF COURSE, THE BETTER YOUR CHANCES.

Time permitting, 2-3 days before the test you will want to begin raising you Creatinine levels. Creatine, which metabolizes into Creatinine in 24-48 hours, can be raised with red meat and/or Creatine supplement, available on line or at nutritional food stores. The amounts of Creatinine metabolites are measured as part of the urine integrity check (the check to see if the sample is urine and if it is diluted). Creatinine level must be 20mg/dl or greater. 200-250mg/dl ranges are ‘my’ normal. For more info on Creatine loading go to Creatine: How Much to Take and When - Ray Sahelian M.D. - Dave Tuttle - HealthWorld Online


Step 1. 4-12 hours before the test take 4 aspirin (not Tylenol or Advil). This step may be repeated every 4-6 hours up until 4 hours before the test.
Step 2. 3-4 hours before your test, start by drinking 2, 8oz. glasses of water. Water can be substituted for with Cranberry or fruit juice, teas or even soft drinks. Then drink another 8oz. every 15 minutes for the next hour for a total of 6 glasses of water (48oz).
Step 3. In about 1 - 2 hours (depending on your system) you should be voiding ‘clear’ urine about every 15 - 20 minutes. Continue to drink 3-4 oz. more water to replace what you've voided every 20-30 minutes.
Step 4. 1-2 hours before the test, take vitamin B2 or B complex (about 10 times the daily recommended dosage). If the vitamins are time release, crush them before taking. You may also take vitamin B with each glass of water, 2 times the daily dosage, if you find it easier.

That's it. Within 30 - 45 minutes of taking your vitamins, if you took your vitamin B in 1 dose, your pee should turn from clear to "vitamin" yellow and remain so for the next 2-4 voids. Be sure you have voided diluted urine at least 3-4 times before you test. It is always best to do a practice run as everyone is different and times may vary. Good luck, remember to post your results, and don’t forget that a diluted results, while not the results wanted, IS NOT a failed results but may require a re-test. For more info on diluting/water loading, go to http://www.dot.gov/ost/dapc/main/waterloading.pdf
Hope that helps!!! N2

PS There is no absolutely 100% effective dilution method. That includes ‘detox’, ‘xxx carbo’ or ‘super flush’ magic potions. But these guidelines will, IMHO, work as well as ANY magic potion, better than many magic potions and you got it here for FREE$$$$$$$
Ya know I don't get why some people think it cool to post there own methods in a thread someone else started so I'm quoting the original post that so many have had success with here again for proper reference. I'm not saying no one else's ways work but if it ain't broke,....

I smoke about 3 or 4 times a week and I recently followed the above to a T and not just passed a piss test but a piss test for a clinical study at a medical lab, Ha! I did substitute 32oz of the water for Gatorade though but the original post said that was ok. I passed the initial drug screening and will be tested once a week for the next 4 weeks. I'll keep ya posted on how it goes!
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dang guys i got b12 instead of b2 u think this is good or should i just go get b2 to be safe?
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ok well i guess i will just tell u my story for my own comfort very new to weed only smoked two times once last monday(2 grams split 2 ppl) and the following thursaday(same amount) now i get a call from a job asking me to come in for interview on friday (not the day after i smoked, the next friday) so on the interview friday i will have been clean for 8 days and only smoked twice if im given a drug test that day u think i should be straight? im 5'11" 150lb's ok metabolisim so yeah u think i should be safe?
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Unhappy 48 hour deadline- Please help!!!!

Hello, I am in the middle of changing jobs, and I was just offered one but a drug test is part of the pre employment screening.

I wouldnt call myself a chronic smoker but I do smoke at least 3-4 times every couple of weeks, but its just a one blunt or joint when I do. The last time I smoked was Monday evening, and I stopped after one hit because it was rolled too tight and I was pulling anything, the time before that was probaly Tuesday or Wednesday of the last week, the week of the 9th....

Now that you know my smoking habits, I was just notified yesterday that I need to take the test in 48 hours! Since yesterday I went to this health store and purchased Wellement herbal cleansing tea flavor red rasberry! Im looking at other post and I havent seen anyone using this. I am also drinking a lot of water since last night, i would say that I have consumed a gallon, and I just ate some chicken and pasta like 5min ago, my urine is clear too clear! should i go and get another detox drink that is more popular, I havent taken that other yet I was going to wait until tomorrow tomorrow morning right before the test, I have also taken 2 niacins today so far one at 8 am and one just a few minutes ago, strangely I am not getting that hot and itching like someothers said I would, very minimumal. I really need this job, what do you advise? what other steps should I take, what shouldnt i do, what do I need to right before the test, would a practice test be good for me? If I pass that does that mean I need to keep up whatever method Im using or if I pass that now, I should be good for tomorrow mid day?

Will the testing center detect anything?
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Do whatever you can to delay the test to give you more time. How badly you want to keep this job will determine the lengths you'll go to protect it so we can't help you there.
But if it were me and there was absolutely no way out of it and I really wanted to keep this job I'd be thinking up some kind of calamity that would allow me a few days to a week off. Beyond that, start drinking. Anything that'll flush out quickly (I suggest cranberry juice) and AVOID FATS OF ANY KIND! I also recommend a diuretic such as "Aqua-Ban" to help get rid of excess water build-up from all of the drinking you're doing. Then on day of the test be sure to empty the bladder as much as possible before giving them their specimen and take niacin or b-vitamin when you wake up to put color and weight back into the urine (too much raises suspicions too so don't go overboard with them). You will most likely pass but will probably be disqualified from being diluted but that's ok, you should be given another test in a day or two which gives you even more of that valuable time you need right now.

But still the best and sure-fire way to pass is by substitution. Especially for employment tests as they usually are not watched and if so not all that closely...usually.

Hope this helps and good luck!
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And if they really want to watch you can always claim "Shy Bladder Syndrom" then pull a switch when you're left alone. It's a very real malady that leaves one unable to pee in the presence of others.
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