I thought I'd seen you referred to as a nurse. Sorry about the mistake, but at least your credentials are even more than a nurse's.

I took enough science classes to have an understanding of the method. That's one of the things that really pisses me off about the government - that they blantantly disregard the scientific method when it comes to MJ research. It is amazing that so much crap gets passed off as truth.

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Kick Out The Jams, Motherfucker!

MC5, Detroit

I'll give you a reason whether you need it or not: The water and powerade is what made you passed, not the Certo. You passed because you managed to dilute the THCA concentration in your urine so your home test showed a negative. Its easy to pass home tests after drinking copius amounts of fluids. You wouldve passed that home test anyway just on the powerade and water alone, without the nasty Certo that goes with it.

It seems that many spend too much time perpetuating and promoting the Certo myth, and not enough time learning and understanding the cold hard facts behind drug testing, how drug testing works, and how the human body processes THC.

(*standing up and applauding* ) In full agreement. The drug testing forum is not a playground. Families, freedoms, and careers depend on the outcome of a drug test.

i just had to add my 2cents here because i keep hearing that the testing could mean so much to someone. it seems like if something means so much to someone they should simply go without the drugs and if someone can't do that than maybe (just maybe) they shouldn't pass the test.

You're right, people should bow to their government and obey any unjust law just because it is a law and the government is always right. I mean, that's what this country was founded on. Following rules even if you know they are unjust.

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"I smoke a lot of pot"

i get where you're coming from. i'm not saying that drug testing is a justified practice, i'm just saying that people should be able to exercise some self control for something that is important to them, you know? does that make sense? I like to smoke a lot too, so no offense. i'm just thinking that if it meant i might lose my child or be incarcerated i'd want to go without instead of taking any chances, thats all.

I agree, when I had those consequences facing me a while back I did quit for awhile, but for jobs etc. I put my faith in my trusted method but decided on self control when incarceration and by that my wife and son were on the line, besides I figured that I screwed up and got in trouble so I didn't have the right to smoke at that time anyways. To each there own but if someone is taking the risk they certainly should not be confused or misguided by misinformation or simply being told something will work when there is nothing to support the claim and they do have so much on the line.
I knew a kid that bought jars of pickles and drank the liquid to "pass" the piss test LOL, it work for him twice but not the third, I did not tell him to do this I laughed at him and told him if he was willing to buy and drink that much pickle juice he might as well try the detox drink over pickle juice, if anything I think dilution is what "made it work" b/c he drank so much water and stuff with it. I AM NOT SAYING TO GO OUT AND BUY AND DRINK PICKLE JUICE, I just thought it was a funny story of how people get misinformation and put there faith in it, and he did end up going to jail so it also shows how important keeping the info to solid facts based on science and experience is, like it is here for the most part, not some crazy thing you once tried and it happened to work being repeated as a "sure fire way to pass every time", I personally don't believe any method should be described that way anyways b/c at a very minimum human error is always a strong possibility.

Well what you said in your first post is that if they don't want to go without they shouldn't pass. What I'm saying is that people should be able to pass without going without, being that the drug test to begin with is an unjust practice.

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"I smoke a lot of pot"

you paid 45 dollars for a drug test

home drug tests are not a reliable source
so you wasted your money try doing it
and sending it to a lab where they test
it better yet get every pot smoker you
know and can get a hold of to do it and
send it to a lab get a good exact ratio
AND
then shit on your hand and throw it
like the monkey you are! think next time
remember you walk on two feet
and can stand upright:] one of
the best quotes you can ever
hear and repeat: if you can't handle
the heat stay out of the FUCKIN(variable :])
kitchen!

Just goes to show that you need considerable education on how drug testing works. Because if you really knew what you were talking about, youd understand that:

1)To keep costs down, labs will perform an initial Immunoassay screen on the urine sample first. Only when the sample fails the initial I/A, that the sample undergoes a confirmation GC/MS and an exact quantitative value provided. The IA is a "pass/fail" deal and has no ability to provide a quantitative analysis.

2) The home THC test kits, being assays themselves, are just as reliable as the I/A's used at the labs for the initial screen. So if youre routinely passing home tests (with the first void of the day), you'll pass the initial I/A screen at any time. And when a urine sample tests negative on the initial I/A, the testing process is finished and no confirmation test will be performed.

As I stated previously, the Drug Testing forum is not a playground. Theres careers, families, and freedoms at stake and factual info is vital here. If this idea doesnt suit you, then perhaps the Drug Testing forum is not for you.

thank you for the lecture but it serve's no purpose
i meant a ratio on who passed and who failed

i didn't give out any incorrect information
besides saying the dude was a monkey
and saying the home tests aren't good enough
because passing a home test is much much more
easier then passing a lab test

but thank you for the information
that was interesting

RFLMAO much much more easier LOL especially when they use basically the same preliminary test, in other words thanks for the lecture which I absorbed nothing from LOL

Sounds like a personal problem on your part.

No you didnt.

Yes you did.

Again that just shows that you need to be educated on how drug testing works, whether you care to realize it or not.

n2's dilution sticky is all you need to pass a drug test

if you know when the test is, structure your dilution accordingly

if you're subject to random screenings, dilute yourself or obtain clean urine and keep it on your person whenever you go to work, in order to substitute. (various ways of raising temp)



all other potions, gimmicks and theories are hardly worth mentioning. n2's dilution sticky is pretty much all you need.

You can do the Jell-O thing if you think your going to get tested. But if its a random and you don't have time to do this stuff. Tell the nurse you went to the bathroom before you came, they will let you have water, or a certain amount of water, anyways, when you finally go in there...piss in the toilet as much as you can then into the test cup, because THC rest's in the bottom of your kidneys thus the closest thing to your bladder. Yet again as he says it will still show up in your system, but so low of an amount that it doesn't count, but they never tell you that.

P.S. I just read some others notes, yet again, just do what mine stats if its a random drug test, that way you don't hold urine on your person that looks all bad.

I know this works, because I know all people that grew up on the streets, and this has worked for them when it came to THC problems.

I can just tell you my very recent experience, and that was for a job with a law enforcement agency that I needed very badly. I tried a synthetic urine which had to be heated in the microwave before leaving home for the test, then have a hot pak rubber-banded to the small plastic bottle and hidden in my sock until I went in the bathroom at the office. The small bottle had a thermometer strip attached to the side; sample must be between 90.0-100.0F. I went into the bathroom, poured it in the cup, saving a little to pour into toilet for looks, and handed it in. 72 hours later I was contacted to inquire when I would like to start my new job...if you need to pass a test, this is the only foolproof way to go...

i agree its just dilution, ive had random drug tests for the past 5 years. i know people that use the certo method or some detox from the hindu store on the corner but its all dilution. in my experience drink lots of water, its the only way your gonna pass if you dont stop smoking, and its still not a guarantee. if you know they test for dilution make sure your creatine levels are up. as for color ive heard b vitamins but never worked for me when i just drank a shitload of water. nobody has ever asked me about clear urine but if they do , i only drink water simple as that.

Heres, my issue. I just moved from Cali, where I had a Prescription for MJ, to the east coast. I'm currently looking for a new job and forgot how anal they are about drug testing on the east coast, especially for fortune 500 companys.

I'm a daily smoker, but nothing over the top. Maybe 1 joint a day shared with my spouse. I smoked on Mon, my recruiter called me on tues and said I need to come in for a drug screen and background check. I freaked out and started my internet research on how to pass. I bought 2 home test the next day. Tried the first one and failed miserably for thc. Then I tried the certo route and passed. I have been able to delay my testing by bsing about my schedule and so now its been about 4 days. I also ran 5 miles and biked another 40 miles yesterday. Been drinking fluids like a ninja. I tested myself again today with a home test without using certo or any type of dilution. It was bright yellow. I passed again.

What the hell does this mean?

How would you know how miserably you failed when home tests are only a "pass/fail" deal and lack the ability to yield a quantitative value, which would denote how bad a person has failed?

wow really? so if I left that word "miserably" out you wouldn't have commented at all? I think I had you for english class in 3rd grade. Guess I should expect a lame response and nothing useful by posting on a pot site.

No because I would be repeating what I, FBR, and Iguana have stated throughout the thread in regards to Certo. Go back and re-read the thread.



Well if thats truly the case, then why did you bother registering on this site in the first place?

I have to take a drug test tom. at 11 am. I am def. dirty. I smoke everyday except for yesterday. I have taken the CERTO before and passed the test. I mixed one package of certo with Poweraide and think drink one bottle of water afterwards and I go to the bathroom often. I was instructed to drink it 2 hours prior to my testing. I passed the first 2 test but failed the 3rd one. I usually refrigerate it the night before but I wasn't able to on the last test. I was also instructed to drink one package the night before and then drank another one the following morning. WHat should I do????

The answer to that is simple: forget the Certo and read the Dilution sticky thread.

I am new here and I Googled how to pass a piss test. I was directed to this forum and so far I have seen more people saying that Certo works. I got up this morning and smoked. I am heavy smoker too, but I am only about 105 lbs ( I hear that matters) and I got a call at about 1:30 from work wanting me to come in and take a pee test. So I mixed one packet of Certo with a glass of water and downed it. Now I am working a half gallon of water also. I have about an hour or so left before I have to go take the test. So the time elapsed between drinking the Certo and taking the test will be around 2 hours. I hope it works and I will come back tonight to say if it does or not. I just want some quick advise. Should I keep drinking water up to the test? How much? Could I have something to eat or will that screw up the test?