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Old Jun-17-2009, 01:05
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So after my friends telling me how great quick fix was and reading these forums i decided to go with that and kept smoking until my ua. I practiced, and when i went to give it everything went smoothly. The temp in the cup after i poured the quick fix was 96, pretty much perfect right? Thats what i thought. Today my boss called me and the test was inconclusive so i failed, and after working there for nine months as a temp i am now unemployed. I realize it has worked for tons of people, but be warned if you have time to quit before your ua, DO IT! Do not rely on what has worked for other people because you could end up like me, out of a job and pretty much screwed for the time being. And for anyone that says i did it wrong, i didn't. The temp was perfect and i shook it before and after the heating and before dumping it in the sample cup. If you want to risk it then quick fix might work for you, but it didnt work for me!!! I will be sending my paperwork back to the company and see if they honor their supposed guarantee and will update you guys on whether they do or not. BTW I went to an actual lab, quick fix did work for me when they just did the cup that has the strips in it, but the lab caught it and i am no longer employed, thanks quick fix!
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What lab did you go to?

What paperwork do you have to send back to the company for a refund?
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I don't have the paperwork yet as I found out yesterday and was not in the mood to go down there and see everyone, but when I get it I will let you guys know.
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Old Jun-17-2009, 14:27
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which version u had and what was the batch number?
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Today my boss called me and the test was inconclusive so i failed, and after working there for nine months as a temp i am now unemployed.
This doesn't make sense. I don't know a lot about quick fix. But how does an inconclusive test mean a failed test??
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Old Jun-17-2009, 19:16
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I had version 5.7, the batch is 7400832001.
And for a lab ua if they detect that it is a substitution then it is considered inconclusive, and they consider it a refusal to give a sample, thus fail.
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Old Jun-17-2009, 19:39
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I had version 5.7, the batch is 7400832001.
And for a lab ua if they detect that it is a substitution then it is considered inconclusive, and they consider it a refusal to give a sample, thus fail.
Did your boss actually tell you that he believed / assumed that you had used a substitution?
Or did he only state what you described in your original post i.e., "the test was inconclusive so [you] failed."

You said you have worked for this employer for 9 months, right? So, I would think there is already a good enough relationship there that your boss would want to try to give you as much explanation as possible, right?

I just used this Quick Fix (same version and batch number) for a pre-employment screen. They accepted for temperature. otherwise, I will post as soon as I hear back about the results.
But, as much detail as you can provide for us regarding the information from your boss and reasons for your being fired would be really appreciated.

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Old Jun-18-2009, 05:16
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I was there as a temp for nine months. There is a good relationship there and he said as soon as I am allowed to reapply he would bring me back. But as it was a pre employment test he said his hands were tied as far as letting me take another one. And believe me if I thought there was any chance I could pee clean legitimately I would have thrown a fit and demanded a retest. He said that the lab knew it was a substitution, and therefor considered a refusal, which is exactly the same as peeing dirty.
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fishy, fishy, fishy...

You shouldve asked for a copy of the actual MRO report instead of settling for verbal info.

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And for a lab ua if they detect that it is a substitution then it is considered inconclusive, and they consider it a refusal to give a sample, thus fail.
"Inconclusive" and "Substituted" are two different rulings. An inconclusive result generally means that the lab, for whatever reason, was unable to obtain a valid result, is not treated as a refusal. Substituted is a conclusive ruling, determined when the samples creatinine and specific gravity numbers are so low and/or divergent that its not consistent with normal human urine. Substituted rulings are often treated as a refusal.

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This is a bar code number, not the batch number. The batch number is an alphanumeric code printed on the instructions sheet.
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Old Jun-18-2009, 11:48
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BTW I went to an actual lab, quick fix did work for me when they just did the cup that has the strips in it, but the lab caught it and i am no longer employed, thanks quick fix!
What lab did you go to which is reporting "inconclusive" as "failure" ?

and at the beginning of your story, you say you [just] tried quick fix (sounding like you just tried if for the first time based upon your firends and these postings) ?

Also, I am confused by your further story that "the lab caught it" but that the they -- (presumably a different "they") -- who just used strips did not catch it.
How many times are you saying you tested with this quick fix?
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This isn't true. I just got out of the drug testing industry and my mother also does drug testing at the hospital she works at and I can tell you that the described story is not how they do things. They must follow strict guidelines.

If they think you adultered the test, then they would tell you that and fail you. If they believe you substituted (ie. they find a bottle on you or the temp is not right), they make you retest immediately while someone is in the room with you. A test that is "inconclusive" or a "No result" is considered an automatic retest due to lab error.

Either this poster is a liar for some reason or the clinic did not follow protocol.
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Its beginning to sound like maybe they were just trying to find an excuse not to rehire. If temp is right, which it will say that on the copy of the paper work that you get back after turning in the sample, then you would have passed. I suppose there is always the outside possibiity that there was something wrong with yours but highly unlikely.
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I agree with killerweed420, if the test really was "inconclusive", and I have never heard of an inconclusive test out of the millions of results I dealt with on a daily basis for nearly 2 years, they would let you retest. Failing a drug test is kind of a big thing because most places bar you from employment for a year, they have an MRO doctor call you to talk about when you last used the drug you tested positive for, etc. so a failed test not something they are going to just drop on you without any further explanation. THey have strict regulations they must follow with failed tests. Sounds like they were just trying to cut you out without laying you off, probably to try to get out of paying unemployment or something.
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Old Jun-18-2009, 17:03
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I just used this Quick Fix (same version and batch number) for a pre-employment screen. They accepted for temperature. Otherwise, I will post as soon as I hear back about the results.
Things are looking good for my success this past week with quick fix 5.7 ... (though I get it that one of these numbers is actually the bar code and not the batch number).

I am supposed to start my new job on Monday which was subject to pre-employment screening. The lab said my employer should have the UA results by today. I don't plan on inquiring further as I understand if I had failed or if there had been another problem, someone would let me know not to bother showing up for work on Monday.
But I will still let you all know more.
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Old Jun-18-2009, 17:10
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Things are looking good for my success this past week with quick fix 5.7 ... (though I get it that one of these numbers is actually the bar code and not the batch number).

I am supposed to start my new job on Monday which was subject to pre-employment screening. The lab said my employer should have the UA results by today. I don't plan on inquiring further as I understand if I had failed or if there had been another problem, someone would let me know not to bother showing up for work on Monday.
But I will still let you all know more.
Please do post how things turned out. As someone who is still not 100% sure as to whether or not a Pre-Screen Drug Test will be administered for his new job I'm definitely interested in seeing if Quick Fix is still a fool-proof subbing method.
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Old Jun-18-2009, 17:22
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I will definitely post quick fix results

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Please do post how things turned out. As someone who is still not 100% sure as to whether or not a Pre-Screen Drug Test will be administered for his new job I'm definitely interested in seeing if Quick Fix is still a fool-proof subbing method.
Again, if no one calls me tomorrow to revise the last instructions that I show up for work on Monday, I think it's pretty clear all is good. But, in any event, I expect to hear a final word when I meet with the human resources offices on Monday morning.
So I will post Monday when I am back home.

This forum has been awesome. I just finished college and felt so lucky to get a job. Then, I found our I needed to do pre-employment screening - a background check an ddrug screening. I had 3 weeks and I quit smoking. And I drank Total Eclipse but with only a few days to go, all my home tests were still failing for THC.
I was a mess. Then I found this forum and bought Quick Fix on friday delivered this past Monday before noon.
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I couldn't agree more, User616. These forums have been a fantastic resource for me as well. I actually graduated from college right at a year ago with my Masters degree and haven't been able to find full-time work that can pay for all my bills (i.e., student loan payments, rent, etc). Luckily I have some really cool friends and family that have helped me out but. That's why my new job is so important as it pays decently and will allow me to fully support myself.

Best of luck to you!
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I have the paperwork finally, and so sorry for my mistake, inconclusive was the wrong word. INVALID is what the paper work says. I have no motive for lying, believe me I wish I could tell you guys its foolproof. Verbatim the report says: Specimen is invalid due to abnormal physical characteristics: NO URIC ACID (thats a big one), no odor (smell your quick fix), no foaming and bright yellow color.
I am not trying to fuck with anyone, just want people to have good information when dealing with something as important as getting a job. Its not worth it guys, if you have time to quit do it. Quick fix failed me, and if I had read my posts I would have a job right now because its not worth risking it just to be high for 30 days.
Like I said before, I realize that quick fix has worked for a lot of people on this forum, and if you want to gamble you have decent odds to beat the system, but it is not guaranteed by any means.

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Old Jun-19-2009, 02:58
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What lab did you go to which is reporting "inconclusive" as "failure" ?

and at the beginning of your story, you say you [just] tried quick fix (sounding like you just tried if for the first time based upon your firends and these postings) ?

Also, I am confused by your further story that "the lab caught it" but that the they -- (presumably a different "they") -- who just used strips did not catch it.
How many times are you saying you tested with this quick fix?
You can try and discredit me as much as you want, but this is just semantics. Do you really expect me to list the name of each place that tested me? That might seem fair, but as a lot of smokers I am paranoid and don't want someone randomly reading this to put two and two together and suspect me. Its pretty plain, if you go to a lab then you might get caught as I did. If its just a simple test where you pee in a cup that already has the strips in it you are good because they aren't going to test for anything more than the drug metabolites. But in that case you might as well save some money and dilute and take some B12 because they wont know the difference anyways and the temp is guaranteed to be right.
Also I think it is pretty obvious that when i say 'they' i am inferring another entity. Why the hell would the lab test me, say im clean, then when i use the exact same system have it come back invalid?
If your job is important to you and you have the time to get clean DONT RISK IT. If you don't have time then your hands are tied anyways, and it has worked for a lot of people. One of my friends that recommended quick fix to me went to a hospital and he passed. All I am saying is that it is not 100%, and if you value your job don't risk it.
And to clarify I have used it twice. Once when it was just a cup that had the strips in it, (obviously) and once at a lab.
Sorry if I come across as being pissy, but I am! I fucking lost my job, am trying to help people not lose theirs and am being accused of lying. FUUUU!!!
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Old Jun-19-2009, 03:40
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After doing a google search I found these links.
http://www.occ-doc.net/_disc1/0000018c.html
quick fix.. uric acid? NOT HUMAN? - Marijuana.com
Decide for yourselves.
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Tell you guys what, you vote on who you trust the most on these forums, and if that person will give me their email address i will give them my phone number and we can talk. I am totally serious about everything i have posted here, and am doing this purely so other people don't have to go through what I did. I just want all the pot smokers to live in peace and not get screwed by the man. So if thats what it takes for people to believe me I will do it for your benefit. Tomorrow I will hook up my scanner and scan my paperwork so you guys can see it for yourselves. I believe that quick fix will work for the majority of people, but if you have time to get clean and you cant afford to lose your job then don't rely on this alone. I am sincere, and will for sure call or give my number to whoever you guys want to talk to me.
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Tell you guys what, you vote on who you trust the most on these forums, and if that person will give me their email address i will give them my phone number and we can talk. I am totally serious about everything i have posted here, and am doing this purely so other people don't have to go through what I did. I just want all the pot smokers to live in peace and not get screwed by the man. So if thats what it takes for people to believe me I will do it for your benefit. Tomorrow I will hook up my scanner and scan my paperwork so you guys can see it for yourselves. I believe that quick fix will work for the majority of people, but if you have time to get clean and you cant afford to lose your job then don't rely on this alone. I am sincere, and will for sure call or give my number to whoever you guys want to talk to me.
Definitely disconcerting...I hope some other anomaly occurred because having Quick Fix become irrelevant would be absolutely insane, and definitely not insane in a good way...
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I'm not trying to scare you guys, if this is your only hope then go in and be confident and don't give anything away because it obviously has worked for other people, I'm just saying if you have time to get clean don't risk it. When I went in I was nervous, but forced myself to act natural and to talk w the lady. I joked w her and even made her laugh when I asked if I could wash up while she was writing shit down, and she said no and handed me the pen to sign, I said damn you guys must go thru a lot of pens cause I know your not handling that thing after I just pissed. Like I said, mine couldn't have gone better, and when I walked out I thought I killed it and slept like a baby because of what my friends had told me and what I had read. I wasn't afraid at all until my boss called me the next day way before I was supposed to show up (I worked graveyard so I knew it couldn't be good).
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I have the paperwork finally, and so sorry for my mistake, inconclusive was the wrong word. INVALID is what the paper work says. I have no motive for lying, believe me I wish I could tell you guys its foolproof. Verbatim the report says: Specimen is invalid due to abnormal physical characteristics: NO URIC ACID (thats a big one), no odor (smell your quick fix), no foaming and bright yellow color.
I am not trying to fuck with anyone, just want people to have good information when dealing with something as important as getting a job. Its not worth it guys, if you have time to quit do it. Quick fix failed me, and if I had read my posts I would have a job right now because its not worth risking it just to be high for 30 days.
Like I said before, I realize that quick fix has worked for a lot of people on this forum, and if you want to gamble you have decent odds to beat the system, but it is not guaranteed by any means.
My urine doesn't foam. Unless its the first sample of the morning, it doesn't smell either. If I take my multivitamin in the morning, it has a bright yellow color.

Now to go google "uric acid"
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Tomorrow I will hook up my scanner and scan my paperwork so you guys can see it for yourselves.
I, for one, will be looking forward to seeing this.
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