Originally Posted by Branall1

Here's another "scam" within the drug testing industry.

When people think of "drug abusers" they normally think of the big ones. Cocaine, Meth, opiates, etc. These drugs are no longer detectable within HOURS of use by modern drug tests. This means you could be a crackhead every day of your life, abstain for a DAY, and go get tested. You will pass.

Weed is detectable up to 45 days in heavy users (like me). This is part of the cause with the obsession with the "marijuana is bad". If we stop testing for weed, 99.999% of all drug tests would come up negative, rendering the industry useless. Companies that make millions of dollars will stop at nothing to keep that company alive, including pushing false information (Especially OLD test results. Never do you hear of recent studies showing the "terrible effects" of chronic marijuana usage.) or extrapolating ludicrous results from ludicrous tests.

Originally Posted by MsStrawberrySwisher

Um, hate to sound negative, but you will need a minimum of at least 20-30 days to pass the test naturally. Plus it all depends how your size, weight, metabolism and water drinking habits. If you drink to much water, your sample might come up dilluted, then they might have you retest or fail you all together. Best solution I suggest to you is going the substition method. Either buying some Quick Fix or using a clean family or friend pee is the only way you have a great chance of passing the test. Good Luck.

Originally Posted by Branall1

Hello everyone, I am a new member, but I have some experience that I think (And hope) will clear up a lot of the misinformation (And flat out money wasting) I see on this board.

My name is Brandon and I used to work for a medium sized drug testing firm located in North Carolina. We provided everything from record keeping, laboratory testing to legal compliance and on-site test kits.

Here are some basic things everyone needs to know about drug testing.

1. It is an entire industry formed on mis-information that's only exists to make money. Margins on drug tests are very high, especially when compared to other types of medical testing. This means companies like LapCorp and Quest Diagnostics earn more per drug test than any other test they perform, so they obviously aren't going to complain.

2. Drug tests do NOT detect THC. You could drop a bud into water and stick a drug test in. It will read negative. Every time. Drug tests look for the byproduct of THC consumption in your body, not the drug itself.

3. The detoxification industry is just as shameful and money oriented as the drug testing industry. Almost every detox product out there requires you to drink copious amounts of water prior to your test. It's the WATER, not the product that dilutes the sample and lowers the Ng/Ml (nanograms per milliliter) concetration of cannibinoids. Your system cannot "flush" all of the cannibinoids just because some product claims it can. Cannibnoids are stored in fatty cells, and I think everyone wishes they could magically "flush" fatty cells from their body

4. Laboratory testing is actually on-site (rapid read, quick scan, dip card. Whatever you want to call it) testing in disguise. Here are the economics:

The NIDA 5 (Cocaine, Meth, THC, Opiate, PCP) dip cards cost $1.10 wholesale (For a decent, american made card). They are much cheaper if you go with the Chinese imported version (remember, this is a money motivated industry. Most people use the cheapest they can get at the time)

Lapcorp charges the company anywhere from $14-$39 per "Laboratory Test" plus a "collection fee" of $10-$15. That's $25 per test at the least.

GC/MS (Gas Chromography/Mass Spectromity) testing actually costs a lot more than what they charge. GC/MS normally costs close to $100 per test. Anyone can obviously see the problem is every single test was run through GC/MS. Lapcorp would loose money. This is obviously not what happens.

ALL lab samples are "screened". They know that 99% of all of the tests are going to come up negative, so they hit them with the same $1.10 test that an onsite kit uses. If it comes out negative, it's reported negative and never sent to GC/MS. If it's positive, it heads over to GC/MS for quantitive verification.

All you have to do is be able to pass an at home kit and you are golden. Here is where the magic comes in. Drink WATER and take a B Vitamin. This will re-yellow your urine, which will pass visual inspection.

These companies are all about making money (on both ends, testing and "detox") Everyone knows drug testing is Bullshit (Penn and Teller should totally hit this for an episode). The truth is it's a multi-billion dollar industry, and the industry wants to keep it that way. Lapcorp, Quest, etc make a substantial amount of their profit from drug testing. They aren't going to deliberatly damage that.

The point of this post? Save your money. Chances are if you are looking for a job money is tight already. Add in gas prices and time wasted at interviews and driving all over town to be tested and $30 is a lot of money. Drink water, and take vitamins.

Brandon

PS: Hair testing is increasing in popularity, but it is still prohibitively expensive. Wholesale on a hair test is about $79 per test. Unfortunately, nothing works to fool a hair test. They can only use 1.5" (They CAN use more, but cannibinoids break down in the hair a little after 90 days, so long hair is NOT a "timeline". It's just long hair). Shaving your head also won't work, they'll just find it somewhere else (Pubic, chest, back, anywhere really) and they will also make a note that your head was recently shaved. The cannibinoids are stored WITHIN the hair folicle, so those "cleansing" shampoos are total bullshit also. Like I said, save your money,

Originally Posted by Branall1

4. Laboratory testing is actually on-site (rapid read, quick scan, dip card. Whatever you want to call it) testing in disguise. Here are the economics:

The NIDA 5 (Cocaine, Meth, THC, Opiate, PCP) dip cards cost $1.10 wholesale (For a decent, american made card). They are much cheaper if you go with the Chinese imported version (remember, this is a money motivated industry. Most people use the cheapest they can get at the time)

Lapcorp charges the company anywhere from $14-$39 per "Laboratory Test" plus a "collection fee" of $10-$15. That's $25 per test at the least.

GC/MS (Gas Chromography/Mass Spectromity) testing actually costs a lot more than what they charge. GC/MS normally costs close to $100 per test. Anyone can obviously see the problem is every single test was run through GC/MS. Lapcorp would loose money. This is obviously not what happens.

ALL lab samples are "screened". They know that 99% of all of the tests are going to come up negative, so they hit them with the same $1.10 test that an onsite kit uses. If it comes out negative, it's reported negative and never sent to GC/MS. If it's positive, it heads over to GC/MS for quantitive verification.

All you have to do is be able to pass an at home kit and you are golden. Here is where the magic comes in. Drink WATER and take a B Vitamin. This will re-yellow your urine, which will pass visual inspection.