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Mar-01-2007, 21:40
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Northen Lights and some Durban Poison x Skunk #1
Brace yourselves, my dear c.com friends, because sex, fame, and immense wealth are things nowhere to be found sitting on your ass reading my grow log. If we're both lucky you might see some bud porn so stick around anyway.
What I have are 2 batches of NL seedlings... well, the older ones are in veg now. They are 21 and 11 days old. I have 5 more seeds but I don't have space to get them going right now.
Ok a little background. I got 13 seeds from BC Bud Depot, germed 4 and 3 of them were good. Germed 4 more and 3 were good. The last one cracked after a week-ish and grew a little root but didn't make it. 75% success.
Anyway they are great little guys, but they were pretty droopy and I have been watering them every couple days as they need it. I fed them about 1/2 strength Advanced Nutes because one of them (#3, most vigorous) had yellow spots forming on older leaves (Mg or Mn or something? I have no clue) and the most stout little one (#1) was yellowing on lower leaves (N-def methinks). I gave them some molasses for good measure.. maybe it wasn't enough but it lowers the pH a lot so I'm wary to put lots in like some people do.
Shit, this is getting too long and I don't want to bore you guys so here are a few pics...
pic #4 shows some of the yellow spots on #3 there. they're a bit worse now but since feeding it seems to be alright.
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Mar-01-2007, 21:51
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What about the Durban Poison x Skunk #1 you ask?
I recently ordered some seeds from nirvana's and got these as freebies. They're germing slowly but one is in the dirt, hopefully it'll sprout. One more will be planted tomorrow and hopefully by then some of the others that have cracked will show their tap root soon! Nothing to see yet, but later on...
Oh yeah, the 3-week Northerns looked droopy (I've been watering them) so I got them into some bigger containers... grow bags, and they basically suck. I ranted about it in my other grow log (see sig), long story short I won't buy them again. I'll use these ones though. They're no good if you want to train your girls or anything, but maybe good for a SOG. I digress.
I hope they'll perk up tomorrow. I think they look better already but we'll have to wait a bit longer to really find out. That's it today! I don't think this will be a daily thing, more like weekly. I'll try not to ramble too much but I make no promises.
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1- 3-week plants yesterday
2- 11-day seedlings yesterday
3- 3-week plants today
4- 11-days seedlings today
5- the whole veg cab
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Mar-02-2007, 06:54
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Pretty!
Post your lighting equipment and veg space information some time, please.
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Mar-02-2007, 11:19
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Sure thing shov!
I've got a dresser/cabinet thing I had in my room setup as a little veg cab. At first it was just for clones but it evolved. I had to remove a shelf that split the cab in 2 vertically and then put a fan in the back. There's a used 4" muffin fan in there I got for CAD$15.
Dimensions are about 36"W x 17"D x 21"H. There's someone sleeping in my room so I can't measure, but that's pretty close.
Lighting: 10x 27W daylight (5500k) CFLs give my 270W of bright, white light in there and they seem to just love it.
So it didn't cost me much and it works well enough for now... the limited height is it's biggest shortcoming.
Coffee time... -c 
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Mar-04-2007, 19:44
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Day 24 and 14
Today all the plants were fed. The older plants got about 3/4 strength nutes since 2 of them look like they have N-def. The yellow spots on the #3 (largest plant) have stopped so that's good. They all perked right up after the feeding.
The younger ones got about 13% strength nutes (1/6 of a 4/5 solution) since one of them had those same yellow spots. Since they're getting chemical nutes and I don't have any tea or organic nutes in the soil I'm giving them molasses. I have hard water with a pH around 7.2, so I think I'll be fine with what I have.
They're being fed Advanced Nutrients 3 part, as well as:
* AN Barricade (silicate)
* BioBizz Bio-Grow (molasses derivative)
* Liquid Karma
* Thrive Alive
* Molasses
The molasses I might not use every feeding, and sometimes I'll use BioBizz Fish Mix in place of the Bio-Grow stuff. It smells awful but it works well, too bad my plants are in my room or I wouldn't care much about the odour.
That's it for today... everything's going great.
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Mar-06-2007, 00:50
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25 days and the biggest plant there (#3) has a preflower! It's too small for me to see and I couldn't get a look with the microscope so I'll just be patient and wait till it's bigger. There's no way I could snap a pic of it yet maybe in a day or two though.
I can't say I'd be upset if every last one of these Northerns was a girl, but I do want some seeds so even if it's a boy that's ok with me.
The 2nd Durban Poison X Skunk #1 is poking out of the ground. I pulled the seed off of it (gently) because it wasn't having much luck getting out on its own. The first one that went in the dirt is just poking out the top and all I can see is seed, no green like the other one. There should be at least 1 DPxSkunk plant for sure!
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Mar-07-2007, 14:26
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Unless my eyes deceive me then #3 is a girl. I used a 8x magnifier and I'm 99% sure I saw tiny pistils.
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Mar-08-2007, 21:26
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day 28
Today the vegging plants are a month old. I am going to have a full flower cab for the next 2+ months so I don't know what to do with them that long. I may just keep 1 or 2 of them as mothers and try a SOG when I have the space, and forget about getting seeds from them for now.
#3, the biggest one who looks even bigger because she's in a bigger bag up higher, is indeed a she.
#1, the different one of the bunch, has got to be a girl, I am 99% certain about her now too. #2 doesn't have pre-flowers I can tell from yet but everything about it looks female, so I'm pretty sure it'll be a girl as well.
I don't know if I'm extremely lucky, or if this is because I wanted to get some seeds from these plants but I am getting all females it seems! If I want seeds I may have to grow those other 5 beans as soon as I have the room in there instead of trying out another strain (Mandala's Satori). Decisions, bah! I just want a real grow room.
#2 and 3 each have one little CFL burn... I'm trying to keep it that way but I leave them for a few hours and they're close to the light again there's really not a lot I can do unless I start tying them down.
more on the little ones after this...
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Mar-08-2007, 21:30
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18 day NL seedlings
These little guys are over 2 weeks old now and just growing like mad. I gave them some nutes today according to the AN schedule on their site, which is probably for clones, but they seem to have taken it well. The older ones can handle them so I thought I would try it with these younger ones and see how it went. So far so good!
Before the fan was hoisted up they were taking turns right in front of it. It's not very powerful but you might notice they warped some of the leaves a little bit. The last pic shows just one of them which has crazy leaves! I don't think it's from the wind since it didn't happen to the others. It's just awesome how it's doing that.
The 2 DPxSkunk seedlings are pretty sad looking and I'm not too hopeful for their future. Who knows though maybe they'll surprise me.
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Mar-17-2007, 17:07
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Day 37
I have run into a bit of a height problem in the veg cab!  I don't want to move them to the closet, but that looks like my best option right now since bcchronic's 250W HPS is still just sitting in there.
Anyway #3 is getting it the worst as you can see in these pics. She barely flinches at the burns... she's only droopy from thirst. She's perked right up today. I won't need clones for about 2 months. blah.
It's probably nicer to prune the poor girls relentlessly than to let them grow into the lights and burn so that's my other option. I don't think I want to prune them enough so they'll still fit though... argh! I don't want the light from the closet on all the time as well as the veg cab.
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Mar-17-2007, 17:10
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Day 27
These little guys are almost a month old now. They've been re-potted into larger containers. I think I have one girl and 2 boys but no pre-flowers yet that I can see so I have to wait longer. I think the one on the right is female and the other 2 are males.
I chucked the DPxSkunk ones. They were sort of picking up the pace but I don't have space to waste on half-assed plants like they were. I wasn't expecting much out of them anyway.
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Mar-19-2007, 23:14
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Egggggg sell ent.
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Mar-20-2007, 12:34
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Well the little one I thought was female definitely is. No sign on the other 2 male-ish yet.
I topped almost all of them yesterday. I have to clone them this week, but tomorrow I have a balcony+apartment inspection so it's going to have to wait a little longer.

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Mar-25-2007, 00:56
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Day 43, 33
Well friends, the inspection is over and went without a hitch (just as expected).  *phew*
I mercilessly pruned the big girls again but then today bcchronic came over to smoke some of Mercedes and we ended up cloning and trashing the 2 big girls. A few days ago I put the middle-sized girl into the flower cab since there was no room in the veg cab, as you all saw here!
What that leaves me with in the veg cab is a dozen clones, some of which are tall and are really wilting, 2 male plants and one small-ish female (front right in the 2nd pic). bcchronic wants some of the clones and I want a good mother or two out of them.
It's going to be at least 2 months and likely closer to 3 by the time I can flower a full crop of NL so this log is not going to be exciting for a while. All the fun's in veg though so I guess it depends on what you consider exciting. There'll be lots of plant bondage so if you're kinky stick around!
(3rd pic: the NL in the flower cab is front right. she just had 6 branches pruned off the bottom after the photo. you can see she's a little CFL-burnt)
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Mar-27-2007, 09:20
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Hey, man. Glad the inspection went well. You seemed to take it much more mellow....ly...than most. That's good. Plants are looking good. You should be able to pull out those popsicles soon and give the other girls some more room, eh? Cool, man.
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