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dutch.lover · #26 (**permalink**) Mar-08-2007, 21:17

We put Dutch Treat into darkness this afternoon. Beforehand, Harris7 cut off all the large fan leaves. Maybe the plant will be more resinous, who knows.

Harvest and manicure pics to follow!

Bree1978 · #27 (**permalink**) Mar-08-2007, 21:46

sorry to intrude, just wanted to give you some props...Love the pics and both the logs! Everything looks super scrumptious!

Bree

dutch.lover · #28 (**permalink**) Mar-11-2007, 03:05

Another Update: We chopped Dutch Treat yesterday.

Weren't too impressed with the buds, they were quite a bit skinnier than the last plants we harvested and were very leafy. The length of the main colas are really impressive tho- at least a foot long each. The manicure pics are the most fun- so I shall post some when the time comes. Stay Tuned!

Abattoir Dream · #29 (**permalink**) Mar-11-2007, 04:36

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Concerning the removal of fan leaves; here is an experiment to try. On one plant choose a node somewhere along the main stem and remove one of the fan leaves from one side. Leave the other intact. Notice when the plant is finished how much bigger the bud is with the leaf than the one without.

I did this once and was amazed at the difference in size. The bud with the intact fan leaf was over twice the size.

Perp is completely correct...

LATERAL BRANCHES GROW IN DIRECT CORRELATION TO FAN LEAVES! BY REMOVING A FAN LEAF, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH DISABLE THE GROWTH OF THE EXISTING LATERAL BRANCH...

...man ive been waitin for someone to bring this up..

dutch.lover · #30 (**permalink**) Mar-11-2007, 13:11

very interesting! it's good to know that there is an actual science to removing fan leaves-smaller branches/buds. (i was gonna give u some rep for that but i can't apparently)

Have any of you heard about pinching buds to make them grow larger? The logic behind this is if you pinch the bud, the plant will feel like it's being damaged and kind of grow an extra bud in it's place. By pinching, I think my friend meant squeezing the stem near the bud so the plant thinks it's been severed. Anyone?

harris7 · #31 (**permalink**) Mar-11-2007, 13:25

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

Perp is completely correct...

LATERAL BRANCHES GROW IN DIRECT CORRELATION TO FAN LEAVES! BY REMOVING A FAN LEAF, YOU CAN PRETTY MUCH DISABLE THE GROWTH OF THE EXISTING LATERAL BRANCH...

correlation isn’t causation.

I remove fan leafs all the time and the axial growth from the node continues fine.

TheGreenFog · #32 (**permalink**) Mar-12-2007, 10:40

Hey, guys. Wanted to see how the continuous harvest is going. Any new harvest pics?! I'm patiently waiting.

Hope they come soon!

The Fog

dutch.lover · #33 (**permalink**) Mar-12-2007, 11:09

We chopped and hung a plant Friday night, so manicure pics will be coming soon! We actually smoked some quick-dried (i take little popcorn buds off the stems when we chop the plant, and put them above my fridge where it's warm and they take about 2 days to dry) bud from Dutch Treat last night, and it was very smooth. It has a strange smell, different from our other dutch treats, but the taste was unaffected. The high was really awesome too, and when combined with The Hog...giggly goodness. lol.

Will post some pics today of the hanging buds and flowering plants, to quench y'alls bud-thirst!!! lol

dutch.lover · #34 (**permalink**) Mar-16-2007, 00:09

The moment has arrived!! Im just gonna start manicuring Dutch Treat, so stay tuned!

harris7 · #35 (**permalink**) Mar-16-2007, 12:37

Well here are some photo’s of the newly chopped Dutch. This plant seems more potent than any of the others from the density of trichomes and how fast our trimming scissors got stuck.

We have the ritual of smoking the first bud trimmed and it was quite nice. We’ll see how it is after a nice long cure.

Now we need to talk about a little problem called LYD. Low yield disorder has been affecting the last 5 plants Here’s what we got:

C-1
Yield = 14.9g
C-2
Yield = about 1.8 oz
DT-1
Yield = 20.1g
DT-2
Yield = About an oz
Hog (H-1)
Yield = 14.8g
DT-3 (this plant)
Yield=22 g

One explanation is that the huge amount of stress these plants went through during Veg and flowering, stunted their growth rate.

To test this hypothesis we must wait, one more plant (Mud bud) went through such stresses. She should be chopped in a few days from then on the plants had a very happy life.

Harris

canuck grower · #36 (**permalink**) Mar-16-2007, 20:11

I guess that is a bit low. Nice looking plants in any case though... can't wait to see the ones that are LYD-free!

-cg

dutch.lover · #37 (**permalink**) Mar-17-2007, 19:23

i am disappointed with our yields, but at the same time our weed is soooo potent that I really can't complain too much. For all I know, the buds have 'concentrated' themselves and have increased potency as a result. lol. We vaporized our weed last night, and it tasted soooo good. Apart from an awesome high using a Volcano provides, it's really nice to actually taste the weed...instead of resin from a bong.

i just watered the kids, and let me tell you, some of them smell amazing! one of our next champagnes smells so dank, i couldn't believe my nose. seriously. lol. I wish we could all get together and try each others' weed...if only there were "smelly-net"

ps: Mud Bud is the next plant to be chopped down...(we haven't harvested a Mud yet so it will be a new experience

)

Abattoir Dream · #38 (**permalink**) Mar-17-2007, 19:44

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very interesting! it's good to know that there is an actual science to removing fan leaves-smaller branches/buds. (i was gonna give u some rep for that but i can't apparently)

Have any of you heard about pinching buds to make them grow larger? The logic behind this is if you pinch the bud, the plant will feel like it's being damaged and kind of grow an extra bud in it's place. By pinching, I think my friend meant squeezing the stem near the bud so the plant thinks it's been severed. Anyone?

i have thought of that before, i expect the plant would bleed to death though, or bleed enough to hermie...

i was thinking... if every lateral branch minus the top 4 were removed... would it focus all energy on the main cola..? maybe not.. i guess the leaves at the top can only take in a certain amount of light... what if every lateral branch (other than the main cola) were to be removed, but all fan leaves where left on... would the plant produce a boulder of a top cola??? i wonder if anyone has looked into this?!? maybe someone has some useful notes floating around?

hey, dutch lover... next time you harvest HOG, could you post a pic?

thnx 4 ur time...

Abattoir Dream · #39 (**permalink**) Mar-17-2007, 19:48

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correlation isn’t causation.

I remove fan leafs all the time and the axial growth from the node continues fine.

ahh yeh, i see what you mean, what i said was you CAN disable the growth of a lateral branch, - if it hasnt got enough leaves to support itself..

obviously, if a branch is well developed, loosing its fan leaf wont matter..

dutch.lover · #40 (**permalink**) Mar-17-2007, 20:02

I will totally post a pic of Hog next time it's harvested...it will be awhile unfortunately, I think at least a month. We have a lot of champagne coming up tho. I know that's what you were growing, and I laughed when I read you said it smelled like bananas...but then our last plant smelt really weird when it was drying, so then I realized smelling like bananas wasn't so strange after all, lol.

Chronic Chrissy · #41 (**permalink**) Mar-17-2007, 21:27

Awsome thread guys, and some nice plants. I did a little experiment of myself before harvesting the top colas of my Afghanis.
I stuck the three in a closet to control dark period. 2 of them got 15 hours of dark(I slept in), and the other 36 hours. Then I took the top colas and put them back in the room to finish up the bottoms, tomorrow I'll take the bottoms using the same dark period for each plant.
So far we noticed that the plant left in the dark smokes a little nicer and is a little more potent, but she was the better plant to begin with, so hopefully the bottom harvest is a little more equals seeing as how they were all shaded.

Abattoir Dream · #42 (**permalink**) Mar-19-2007, 05:39

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Originally Posted by dutch.lover

I will totally post a pic of Hog next time it's harvested...it will be awhile unfortunately, I think at least a month. We have a lot of champagne coming up tho. I know that's what you were growing, and I laughed when I read you said it smelled like bananas...but then our last plant smelt really weird when it was drying, so then I realized smelling like bananas wasn't so strange after all, lol.

lol GREAT! champagne sounds good too

haha yeh, it did just smell like fresh bananas... unfortunately im not all that pleased with the HOG, its meant to yeild big, greasy buds... but it never seems to... ill try a few outdoors this summer.. see how things go eh?

this may be a stupid question... but does anyone have any diagrams of a cannabis plants vein/arterie structure... i need to know how the blood is pumping before i experiment with lateral branches and such...

Abattoir Dream · #43 (**permalink**) Mar-19-2007, 05:41

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So far we noticed that the plant left in the dark smokes a little nicer and is a little more potent, but she was the better plant to begin with, so hopefully the bottom harvest is a little more equals seeing as how they were all shaded

this would make sense... light degrades THC, so therefore the more dark... the more potent...

Scarlet Sky · #44 (**permalink**) Mar-19-2007, 05:47

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

i was thinking... if every lateral branch minus the top 4 were removed... would it focus all energy on the main cola..? maybe not.. i guess the leaves at the top can only take in a certain amount of light... what if every lateral branch (other than the main cola) were to be removed, but all fan leaves where left on... would the plant produce a boulder of a top cola??? i wonder if anyone has looked into this?!? maybe someone has some useful notes floating around?

not only have i some useful notes on the topic, i've the experience to boot.

if all lat branches are removed (except four, you hit the nail on the head) the plant will flower a main cola, and that's all. the result is a cola bud up to twice the size of those that were left natural.

at the same time, i've some multi-topped plants that put out hundreds of popcorn buds totalling up to a qp, so the top yeild prize goes to the giant wiry freaks...

Abattoir Dream · #45 (**permalink**) Mar-19-2007, 06:56

hahaha great, should i be removing the fan leaves along with the lat's? or just leave them? (lol excuse the pun) sounds like something new to try...

as for multi topping, whats your method? when i top its from 4th-5th node, how many nodes do you leave between topping when you 'multi-top'..?
also, how long do you leave them to vegg from the last topping to the first day of 12/12?

im really interested in all these ideas...

any more info would be much appreciated...

lol sorry for hi-jacking the thread harris7 and dutch lover, though surely your keen to find out these things too? - good luck guys

Chronic Chrissy · #46 (**permalink**) Mar-19-2007, 12:12

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

this would make sense... light degrades THC, so therefore the more dark... the more potent...

I think it's more of a stress the plant out and it tries to produce extra resin to protect itself.

dutch.lover · #47 (**permalink**) Mar-19-2007, 14:00

don't worry about hijacking, this thread was meant for discussion...

checked the trichomes on Mud Bud yesterday....they're about 20% amber, 20% clear and 60% cloudy....gonna wait a while longer before cutting her down...

TheGreenFog · #48 (**permalink**) Mar-20-2007, 00:18

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Originally Posted by Scarlet Sky

not only have i some useful notes on the topic, i've the experience to boot.

if all lat branches are removed (except four, you hit the nail on the head) the plant will flower a main cola, and that's all. the result is a cola bud up to twice the size of those that were left natural.

at the same time, i've some multi-topped plants that put out hundreds of popcorn buds totalling up to a qp, so the top yeild prize goes to the giant wiry freaks...

This is basically the technique you could use for a SOG grow. Sea of Green. A bunch of plants...lots of them...all pruned to yield a single LARGE cola each. I have yet to see a good example of that on here. Maybe I've seen it a long time ago.

I'm curious to see if there are any grows that utilize that method. Most people confuse SCROG with SOG, but they are not the same. Unfortunately, in some places, so I hear...you'd be much better off doing a SCROG due to the number of plants used...if ya know what I mean.

Anyone got a good pic of a SOG grow of am I gonna have to find it myself?

The Fog

Abattoir Dream · #49 (**permalink**) Mar-20-2007, 07:58

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I think it's more of a stress the plant out and it tries to produce extra resin to protect itself.

lol, when i said light degrades THC i meant AFTER the plant is cut... thats what i thought you meant... obviously now after re-reading your post i know different, darkness produces the flowering hormone in a plant, making more bud... whether its any more potent i dont know... its doubtfull though...

if you extend dark periods you have to extend the whole grow, its simple, i think i also heard the buds have more leaves if grown under more dark hours...

harris7 · #50 (**permalink**) Mar-20-2007, 11:17

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Originally Posted by Abattoir Dream

lol, when i said light degrades THC i meant AFTER the plant is cut... thats what i thought you meant... obviously now after re-reading your post i know different, darkness produces the flowering hormone in a plant, making more bud... whether its any more potent i dont know... its doubtfull though...

if you extend dark periods you have to extend the whole grow, its simple, i think i also heard the buds have more leaves if grown under more dark hours...

For all oil bearing herbs the oil amount peeks after the dark period.
So the idea is that if we extend the dark period we’ll get the amount to peek higher.

I’ve read it so many places and in quite a few books that I believe it

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