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And All Things New....
So here it is a what you all have been waiting for! A new log from Bree!!! LOL, j/k. But seriously sorry for the vacation....I've been quite busy as you'll see!
If you followed or read my first log, located here Again another Light Question., than you know that I had a pretty ghetto grow, but had a yield that was higher than expected. This time I've actually loosened up my purse strings (read: spent my arse off) plus put in a lot of elbow grease, hoping to have something a little more stellar this time around. I'm using bagseed, mostly because I'm afraid of something happening with all this new stuff. I do have some great genetics waiting in the wings....
Well, shall we start with the room??? I have an 800w dual spec light. gr1 - Copy.JPG The hood is ventalated but not air cooled. Construction 005.JPGnewroom - Copy.jpgexhaust - Copy.JPG I have a 449cfm vortex attached to that puppy! It sucks the glass right up to the hood, but I am not running it full speed. I have been using a light dimmer switch to control it Dimmer switch - Copy.JPG...which I don't recommend since some people have told me that it could start a fire. I plan to change that.....
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I have a humorous book on Cannabis. One wonderful quote from it:
“When growing cannabis males only take up space once fertilization occurs.
This shows that mother nature is consistent if nothing else."
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I also built a carbon filter but I used kitty litter instead of activated carbon Carbonfilter1 - Copy.JPGcarbonfilter2 - Copy.JPG carbonfilter3 - Copy.JPGMy setup is filter, hood, fan (in attic, I also built a box for that to muffle sound). Sometimes that fan makes my head feel fuzzy when it's on....lol. Can't describe it I guess.
I have six babies going right now. 13days - Copy.JPG Four popped the surface on 3-16. The other two popped on 3-24. almost four weeks (2) - Copy.JPG
I just gave three of them thier first feeding of mg all purpose. I gave them 1/4 strength. I have one that is really tall (I'm thinking MALE!!), and one that is my FAV! Why? Because it is wide, fat, and plump. I hope it's a girl. The tall one has been having some droopiness and I don't know if that is due to not watering enough or it's getting root bound...whadda you think??
I hope you enjoy the photos. All comments and suggestions are always welcome.
Happy Growin' and Tokin'  Bree
Now I'm off to read all I've missed in the past week or two.........
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I have a humorous book on Cannabis. One wonderful quote from it:
“When growing cannabis males only take up space once fertilization occurs.
This shows that mother nature is consistent if nothing else."
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Apr-11-2007, 11:41
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It wouldn't be my thread if I hadn't forgotten a few things....lol....smoke another one, Bree.....
Here is a pic of the room with the babies in their home. In thier home1 - Copy.JPG They were under 40w of floro tubes until two weeks old (see pic with both compartments). Then they were put under 400w MH. Today I banged on the 400w HPS in addition. I'm thinking I may repot in the next week...then lst and grow for a week to two..then flower. Here is a pic of the bottom of my room Both compartements - Copy.JPG(I haven't light proofed yet, but thinking I'm gonna). This is where I started my seedlings. This is also where the sixth baby is, if you noticed it missing from the previous post.
And finally I wanted to share my my flower/ornamental grass starts are doing really well this year!! flowers starts 07 - Copy.JPGProlly due to knowing a little more aboot lighting!!
Whew, now I am really going to go smoke another one! Enjoy!!
 Bree
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I have a humorous book on Cannabis. One wonderful quote from it:
“When growing cannabis males only take up space once fertilization occurs.
This shows that mother nature is consistent if nothing else."
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well done bree  looks like a mini version of my room.And you built your own filter! you rock!
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Thanks, divestoned....I will admit, I eyed your log quite closely while building mine! Again, Thank you!
 Bree
I also wanted to mention so far the kitty litter is good (4.00 for that). I didn't think I had any smell to my plants until I took them out of the room for the first time to water them (I usually water them one at a time in sink in the growroom). WHOOOT it was smelly....so filter works!
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I have a humorous book on Cannabis. One wonderful quote from it:
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BREE! That new setup is PIMP-a-licious!  I'm so glad to see that you got that stuff set up. I'm jealous of your 800w dual spectrum.  That is going to make a big difference. That is a nice wide hood as well! Awesome. I see good things in your future.
So, few questions...
1. That is a standup fan on the left there, right? For circulation?
2. You say your hood is ventilated, but not air-cooled? What do you mean by that? From what I remember...and if you did it the way we talked about doing it, you have your fan in the ceiling sucking air thru the hood right? Therefore, ventilated...and air-cooled, right? Sorry, maybe I'm missing something. Do you mean that it's not air-cooled because you don't have an intake on it...or what?
3. Where is your fan? In the celing? How do you have it hooked up? I see you have your carbon filter in the back behind the light, right? So, your fan is hooked up to that? And if so, then how is your lamp vented? Different fan?
4. Oh...last one. You say that you built a box to muffle the sound. How did you build that? The egg-carton idea? Or some other way? I'm VERY curious about that one and would like to know how well it is working.
Sorry for all the complex questions, but I'm anxious to get well acquainted with your growroom, so that I can follow along more easily. Again, congrats on your new room. Sharp!
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Apr-11-2007, 15:19
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yes Great Success.
is the duel specturm light 400W hps 400W MH or 600W hps 200MH?
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Apr-11-2007, 19:48
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I’d actually like to know a lot of things about duel spectrum.
I know it’s the best.
But…. Is it better to have 400W HPS + 400W MH than one 800W hps?
What is the best ratio? 50% hps, 50% MH?
My attempt at mixed spectrum is putting a flowering plant in my veg chamber for a few hours once and a while.
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i've used dual spec, seems to produce more compact buds. i havent' noted a difference in yeild, and my experimentation is down and out; not growing anymore...
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Wow Breeness! Your new setup is awesome! I'm looking forward to this!
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BREE! That new setup is PIMP-a-licious!  I'm so glad to see that you got that stuff set up. I'm jealous of your 800w dual spectrum.  That is going to make a big difference. That is a nice wide hood as well! Awesome. I see good things in your future.
So, few questions...
1. That is a standup fan on the left there, right? For circulation?
Yes that is a stand up fan for circulation. It also is an ionizer. Only bad thing about it is you have to clean it pretty often.
2. You say your hood is ventilated, but not air-cooled? What do you mean by that? From what I remember...and if you did it the way we talked about doing it, you have your fan in the ceiling sucking air thru the hood right? Therefore, ventilated...and air-cooled, right? Sorry, maybe I'm missing something. Do you mean that it's not air-cooled because you don't have an intake on it...or what?
Yes, I do not believe you can call it aircooled unless you are pulling in cool air from some other source (meaning not the same room). Am I incorrect in this assumption?
3. Where is your fan? In the celing? How do you have it hooked up? I see you have your carbon filter in the back behind the light, right? So, your fan is hooked up to that? And if so, then how is your lamp vented? Different fan?
Again yes...lol I didn't post a great pic to show it I guess. Here are two. setupwhole - Copy.JPG wholesetup2 - Copy.JPGThe vortex is in the attic, in a box.
4. Oh...last one. You say that you built a box to muffle the sound. How did you build that? The egg-carton idea? Or some other way? I'm VERY curious about that one and would like to know how well it is working.
Actually I was going to use the egg carton thing...but eating all those eggs made me quite sick, ha ha. No, I used an off brand of a product called The Great Stuff. It is a foam spray sealant, I'm sure you are familiar. It really worked 'great'! The only sound I really have is the air rushing through the ducting. I highly suggest to anyone to control the speed of your fan as well (obviously not with a dimmer switch like I did). This REALLY cuts down on noise. With the door closed you can't hear anything unless the house is DEAD silent...which happens once in a blue moon around here...... Unfortunately, I was half crocked when I built the box (don't worry I had help!!!! ha ha ha) so I didn't take any pics...sorry. If I have to maintenance it I'll be sure to take some snapshots....although I refuse to take pics in the attic....that's another story.
Sorry for all the complex questions, but I'm anxious to get well acquainted with your growroom, so that I can follow along more easily. Again, congrats on your new room. Sharp!
Thank you very much, I love the questions!
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I’d actually like to know a lot of things about duel spectrum.
I know it’s the best.
But…. Is it better to have 400W HPS + 400W MH than one 800W hps?
I don't know, it's highly debated. I believe Scarlet Sky is correct, it will mainly just give you denser buds...with maybe more trichs...but that is highly debatable too. I would say for yield, the 800w HPS would be best from what I have read.
What is the best ratio? 50% hps, 50% MH?
I've read that a 2(red)to 1 (blue)ratio is best. I do not have any growing books....that would help here I'm sure.
My attempt at mixed spectrum is putting a flowering plant in my veg chamber for a few hours once and a while.
I personally wouldn't do that. It sounds kinda stressing (I'd imagine your chambers have different enviromental factors..yes?). I would put a few cfls in the blue spectrum in your flower chamber instead.
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i've used dual spec, seems to produce more compact buds. i havent' noted a difference in yeild, and my experimentation is down and out; not growing anymore...
IA, SS. I haven't told you I'm sorry to hear of your predicament. How is that going? Is there an end in sight?
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So do you guys know what wrong with this tall lanky thing? droopy - Copy.JPG Awfully droopy...does it need a repot, more circulation (I could remove my ballast from the room and add a small intake hole in doing that), or less dense soil? Let me know. The others look like they are going that way too.... sigh - Copy.JPG
Happy Growin and Tokin  Bree
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Thank you very much! Your log makes me drool everytime I pop in over there!
So howdoya feel about tall and lanky....needing to be repotted methinks.
 Bree
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If I had to guess, I'd say repotting too. It looks overwatered. Is drainage a problem?
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Hmm, I put rocks (steralized from the driveway) in the bottom but the soil I used is terrible and I hate it. It gets really hard like clay soil when it's dry. Probably compacting like a mofo everytime I water... That has to be it...
Thank you thank you. Are you still using the hyponex for your seedlings? If not, what? I need something fluffier. I'm going to Lowe's probably tomorrow...what shall I pick up to repot them in?
 Bree
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I have a humorous book on Cannabis. One wonderful quote from it:
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any chance of gettin better soil for when you transplant?? good soil is crucial(IMO).
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oh duh you said that....stuff w/perlite an vermiculite an such is fluffiest.
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Yah, obviously the stuff I used is utter junk....I'm still wondering what would be the best stuff to get at a local non hydro store. I have the perlite and vermiculite...I even added it to that soil, tells you how crummy it really is...sigh.
 Bree
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