I have a PH UP and down buffer solution, this should work its what Ive been using to bring it up or down when I have to use tap water.

LOL, He was shady from the start. He failed to tell us that he was working with clones until he was questioned about it. He also stated in his first post that it was the best grow he's had in years because of the T5, but yet, he was only 2 weeks into the grow.

I wouldn't rely on the accuracy of that pH meter. I have the same one actually, but it's sitting in my shed somewhere. I always add some peat to help keep pH down in pots. I also use coconut husk chips which have a natural pH of 6.5 and hold water well.
I bought the chips over 3 years ago, and I've been re-using them since.

By the way, if the number to the right of the temp is for humidity. During veg, they like it high, during flower, they like it low. You may want to mist them when you visit them to keep humidity up during veg. If your room is dry, make sure they are moist.
By the way, nice grow bags!!!

Thanks Pass that shit. Well the plants have perked up a bit since yesterday. I had them on a 24 hr light schedule. I have now cut it back to 18/6 light/dark schedule. As far as the PH meter as mentioned before its the only one I have for now and it will have to do. Im currently unemployed and have spent so much money already and wouldnt get another dollar past my wife. Eventually I want to get a hanna meter or something similar to that.

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havent added anything to the soil but Pro mix and from what I under stand is that promix can screw with the PH level. If I would have know this I would have left the Promix alone and went with just the fox farms soil. I guess I was trying to strech the soil or make it go further by adding the Pro mix to it. I now know for my next grow its going to be just Fox Farm soil and thats it, might also go with their nutrients too.

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D rock. I have been following along and I am not sure if we are at the same stage. I used Northern Light seeds and sowed directly into cocosoil. I put my Tek light down about 6 inches and keep things moist. They all popped within a day. I think I told in another post that I really screwed up the first time and kept them way to close. So I am keeping them way off about 24". I went with the General Hydropoics Flora series just cause they make it very close by.
But here is my novice question. Am I comparing apples to apples as I keep thinking about the heat. I have the tek light 48 and I am using all 8 tubes. I am running T-5 HO 54 watt. Are we running the same??
I am curious because our timing seems to be the same on this batch and I like to compare. Thanks Penn

You have the tek light T5 and I have the New Wave T5. I also have the 8 bulb system as you. They are the same wattage and Lumens. Your hoodis Black and mine is white that is the only difference, Mabey your is a little lighter than mine since you are able to use the retractable hangers and Im not. I actually have my light about 13" from the tops of the plants. Im at day 16 naow since the seeds have poped. some look good and some look likr they did 3 days ago. Guess thats what you get with bagseed though. Next grow is definately going to be somethingf better maybe strawberry cough.

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after I posted that I went and got my little catalog that I picked up from the grow shop and it says that your is made of aluminum and mine is steel. No wonder I cant use those hangers for my light.

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Ok mystery solved. Like I said my buddy was really on edge because they each are rated at 22 pounds but the guy in the shop swore they would hold fine. We still have the chain as a safety but so far no problem.

Mine is in a 4 ft by 5 ft room and you saw the top I think with the ventilation. With that running that room is a minimum of 75 degrees but usually higher and like your situation, it gets hot outside. Big ass box fans are the best I can do but I can keep the temp below 95 during the high sun.

Still learning about nutients. I use well water and the best I can do at the moment is use a pool kit and the ph looks like 6.7. I need to get a better method. My next step is figuring this out. The guy from the Netherlands swears by this Flora series and up until now I have pretty much used a blend of CoCo soil and planters choice. He said just use the moisture meter and keep them happy. Use nutrients everytime. Gave me another product called Sweet. Mostly Magnisium as far as I can tell.
I know I can do much better because the last batch had some pretty sorry looking leaves towards the end. I am trying to catch on to the right stuff to use in the medium I use.

I guess I should start a grow log so you can see what I am doing and can laugh you butt off. The pack had fourteen seeds and all fourteen popped. So far they look good but I don't quit have the leaf sets you have just yet. Maybe moving the light lower?? Do you use a light meter??

Thanks for sharing your log, it helps.. Penn

I dont use a light meter.

And you should start a grow log... you will get tremendous help and suggestions on making your grow a better one, Im glad to see someone other than me has taken a step to T5 lights.
Oh and why would I laugh at your grow. We all start somwhere. As a matter of fact this is only my 3rd grow and This one has done better than the previous 2, there is a hell of alot to learn but thats what makes it so fun and enjoyable. Go ahead and start a grow log so we can see your progress. Good luck!

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Here are a couple updated pics of my grow at day 19 from when the seed split open.











All plants are doing pretty good some are better than others with the 2 biggest plants being up front and to the right in the picture. I guess every plant is going to be a little different cause it came from a mixed container of bagseed that I collected overtime. There are a couple of seeds that were from some hydroponic grow weed that was dank as hell, those are probably the ones that look the best. Will update when there is more to show.

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Hey D Rock your looking good. So tell the new guy some stuff. How rigid are those grow bags? What is the capacity your using? Is the white specs Perlite??
How close is your light at this point. Everyone says lower so I am at 18" now. Temp is 86 at plant top and fan is running now right next to the plants.
Are the cups of water for humidity? I live in a fairly dry area and I am curious on humidity.
Sorry for all the newbie stuff. I will shot some shots in a couple of days as I think you are 6 days ahead of me.

the grow bags are good to use they are extrememly inexspensive, and are a little thicker than a heavyduty black garbage bag and they are 3 gallon grow bags. Yes that would be perlite although the fox farms soil has vermiculite in it too. the perlite you see is from the ProMix that is mixed in with the fox farms. Im at about 12-15" right now and I was going to lift it up another 2-3 inches tonight. The cups are for humidity, the humidity inside my house is at 40ish% and I put the cups in there to keep it right about 50@ thats as High as I can get it with all the fans I have blowing around in there.

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Most excellent. 18" has worked today. Hottest it got was just under 90. They took a good jump today.
The growbags are perferated on the bottom, correct?? Wonder if I should try those. As long as they are stout I will be in good shape. Probably it more in the room by the look of yours.

Maybe I should pull the humdity up to match you. Probably 30% in there as a guess so I could up in some water as well.

How many fans are you running on yours and how big? I use the 7" Target two speed specials. Up to two per room.

You should try and stay 85 deg and under. Yes the bags have holes on the bottom and on the sides just before the bottom of the bag, they are cheap as hell at like 15cents a piece or something like that is what i paid for mine they ,make them in 1 gal, 3 gal, 5gal, and 7 gal Im going to just use the 3 gallons as I wont let my plants get to big.

As far as the humidity tommorrow Im going to get a big container to fill with water and put behind the bags. The cups with water just aint cutting it. I really need my humidity to stay above 50% and its only at 50% or higher when I water or mist the plants down with a b1 vitamin that was designed for misting the plants down with.

Fans I have 3 right now. One is a small 4" clip on fan that is cliped on the inside of the tent. One is a tower fan that moves back and forth, and the other is like a 6" fan that I have on the floor right in front of a A/c vent that is drawing all the cold air from the A/c vent and blowing it into my tent. Im going to have to figure out how to keep it cool like this when I have to shut the doors to the tent when its time to flower. Keep updating your crop man so we can see each others T5 grow.

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great job D!

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D rock your looking good. I posted a few more today but I am making a shopping list as I need to go into Los Angeles for some things. If I want to follow in step with you I best get these girls transplanted quickly. I am with you on the Ph thing.

edit.....Nice job DRock! Keep up the good work

Thanks Chronisseur!


I appreciate all the support guys Im very anxious as this is the first time I have taken a grow this far. The two previous grows didnt make it due to lack of knowledge. This time I have done alot of research and made some good connections on the net to help me through any problems that I might come across.

I will probably update with some more photos tommorrow.

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Hey D Rock. Wife and I are looking at your grow bags again and sold on it. How many total do you have under your lights? Thanks.

there are 9 total. I could probably fit 12 under there if I wanted.

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Ok guys here are some pics I snapped today. Foilage is growing at a pretty rapid rate now. Sometimes the leafs are droopy but I have figured when they do this they are thirsty. I just got done watering my babies about 3 cups of water each. So I should be good for another 3-4 days then they get nutes with their water.

Anyway on to the pics.












Anyone know if these are a sativa or indica strain? Im pretty sure they are Indica, but Im no expert. The reason I ask is because they are bagseed so I dont know if they are any particular strain.

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Wow. Too cool. They have really taken off. I am no expert believe me but I have had similar plants that have been indica dominant. One of the veterans here will probably post the strain before I finish typing.
I will update my log. You are doing great!

Thanks man. Im getting to the point where I think I might want to top the plants and see if it does any good. Or mabey LST them any thoughts people?

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Looking good! I'd like to get T5's for vegging too, but right now I'm doing a SIHLA grow (stuff I have laying around).

I'm using the ProMix high porosity, watering with filtered tap water, and I haven't had any ph issues. Water is around 7, and runoff is around 6/6.5 or so. Plants seem happy. They didn't need nutes for the first 5 or 6 weeks.

As for lst, I'd say it depends on your plans for them. Potential mothers, bud quickly, veg for a while then bud...

What kind of bud lights you got?

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