Hey everyone, I have a small grow going on right now for my own personal stash. These plants that Im currently growing are nothing more than bagseed. I have attempted to grow before but was unsuccessful this time I want to do it right.
anyway on to buissness. As of now they are on day 13 from when the split there seed. I think they are a bit small for 13 days but hey Im no expert. I have these seedlings in a 4x4 homebox. Up until yesterday (day11) they were growing with the help of some CFL's then I put them under what I had hanging in the homebox a 1000 watt HPS( I got rid of it due to the tremendous heat it was producing) I had it with exhaust helping to expell any hot air but it didnt help. So after a day (day11) under the HPS I decided it was way to hot and put the CFL's back up and they were up almost all of day 12. Now (day13)My New Wave 8 bulb T5 lighting system is up and it produces little heat.
Yesterday the soil felt pretty dry so I saturated the soil until I had runoff water from the bottom so I could test my Ph level. It was around 7 so I added a little bit of PH down to my gallon of distilled water Im using to water the plants with and got it to 6.0. Now My plants seem droopy and a couple look like they have a case of leaf curl. Is this from too much water? Included are some pics of my equipment and set up. Please any suggestions are greatly appreciated.


here they are under the T5 lights.


Pulled them down from the light to get a overhead shot and to stir up the top layer of soil.


different angle


although not the best pic this one seems to be the worst with the leaf curl and saggyness.


This one seems to be my biggest plant.

I have the cups numbered to try and keep track of which plants are which.
Will post more pics.

Forgot to mention that Im using a mix of Fox Farms Ocean forrest potting soil with some pro mix mixed in with the fox farm. Nutrients will be Technaflora BC (plants have not recieved any nutrients yet) only a capful of superthrive went into my gallon of water. They will be grown in 3 gallon grow bags(they were cheap and work well) Also forgot to mention the bulbs that are in my New Wave hood are the blue ones 6500k, when its time to flower I will be putting in the red bulbs 3000k. Let me add some more pics.

Nice shot from under the hood looking down the lights.


A shot from outside the homebox with the doors open, I will close them when its time to flower.


Random shot.


Here are my nutes that I will be using.


Fox Farms Ocean Forrest Soil.

Pro mix that is mixed in a 2:1 ration with my Fox Farms soil.


Good reading material, also a bottle of superthrive down in the corner.

When do you think its safe to start giving nutes to the plants I have always read week 2-4 in veg stage. Tommorrow will be 2 weeks. I think I might wait a little longer though.

Looks good!

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Thanks evertking, but Im a bit worried about the saggy leaves and the curling.

They are looking nice and green. Low heat bulbs are the way to start.

I wonder if your leaf problem (non-problem) is because of the light being so close to the plants? It could be that they are growing alot outward. You have large healthy leaves for the size of the plant. If you raise the light a little, they will grow more up instead of out. I'm not suggesting this, just pointing it out if you have an issue with the leaves. I think your leaves look good and healthy.
Good Luck!!!

thanks Pass that shit. I will raise it up a little but I thought that was one of the reason most people bought these bulbs was so they can get the light alot closer to the plants.

It's true. They are much closer to the light with a cool bulb. They would have died already if you had an HPS/MH that close to them.
Because of soil fertility, I probably wouldn't feed for another 2 weeks. The leaves look large and green for their size.

Now go look at the difference between your plants and the plants in that other thread at 2 weeks. I was trying to point out to the readers that they would NOT get their plants like that in just 2 weeks. He was not being honest with us. Good Luck with your grow!!!

Looking good. I wouldnt worry those leaves yet. Plants look healthy.

nice neat set up. Keep at it. I'd be looking to put them into bigger pots right off.

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I knew what you were saying. I thought he said he got those as clones and those pics were taken 2 weeks after he put them into his system. anyway I never thought those plants were 2 weeks old anyway. Just giving him props for having a T5 thats all, Im no idiot I know he was stretching the truth a little.

Thanks shovelhandle. The next time I transplant will be into my 3 gallon grow bags. do you think they are ready for this? I will take one out of the cup and see how the roots are doing, if they are circling the inside of the cup then I will transplant.

Thanks for the kind words. Im just a little paranoid thats all. I dont like it when the leaves are starting to curl makes me think something is wrong with them.

Oh yeah Pass that shit, I raised my light up about 3 inches.

Well I checked My smallest plant I took it out of the cup and looked and the roots are all on the outside of the dirt so I say its time to transplant. I looked at my smallest plant to make sure I havent looked at the bigger plants yet. Well Im off to Transplanting.

Good Luck with transplanting man, I like your grow setup. What size pots did you move them to?

Thanks, I put them in 3 gallon grow bags Im about to upload pics check back in a few minutes.

Here are some photos after transplanting them into bigger Grow bags. They sure look like they are pissed off at me for transplanting them into the bags but I guess thats just a part of transplanting. Hope that they kick back ok and start growing. It seems that they have been growing very slow for the past 2 days. My light is about 15 inches away from tops of plants, I read in Jorge cervantes Grow Bible that after transplanting when under a Fluro set up to have light 12-18 inches away. Hopefully I can start giving them nutes next week.

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Hey, nice setup.
7 was too high but 6 is too low- aim for 6.7 +/- .2
That's why the petioles are reddish. But the plants look good overall. Wehn you lock in your pH they will start looking better.

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Thanks stinky attic. Today was a pain in the ass with the whole PH thing, transplanting and all. I had to adjust my PH level several times due to me running out of distilled water. I had to use tap water so I was adjusting my ph level so that I could give my plants a good soaking after transplanting them, I also added some thrive alive B1 to my water. Its suppose to help with transplant shock.

Ok Stinky I have a question that maybe you or anyone else that wants to chime in can answer. Here goes.... I have a relative cheap PH meter, the kind where you stick the probe into the soil and read the needle on the actual meter.... well never mind here is a pic of the thing.

I always check my PH level before watering my plants I have the little test vial that you add drops to and watch for the color and match up the coresponding color next to the Level, well I always get it to where its suppose to be, but then I water and check with the PH meter by sticking the probe into the soil and its almost always above 7.0 what is causing this and how do I fix it? I think this might attribute to my slow progress lately in my plants growth. I know the digital ones are better, but as of right now Im Broke as hell and cant afford to buy anything else right now plus if my wife finds out that I spend another dime on this growing thing as she like to call it then I will be either sleeping outside or on the couch.
When the plants were in the cups I tried saturating them till I had runoff water but I kept watering and watering and felt like I was going to drown my plants so that didnt work. I feel as if this is going to cause a big problem if I dont nip it in the bud right now. Someone please help.

What is the ph of the soil mentioned in the Foxfarm bag? In 3gallon grow bag ph level shouldnt change much after only few waterings. Unless you've put something else in there.

Curling of the leaves maybe a symptom of K Cu Zn B or Mo shortage. Try giving nutes to some of them and see if theres change to the others.

Im not sure of the PH level on the soil as I dont see it anywhere on the bag, It does say it has oyster shell in it for PH adjustment. ususally the soil PH level is around 7 or higher when I stick the needle in the soil.

"Ocean Forest® is pH adjusted at 6.3 to 6.8 to allow for optimum fertilizer uptake" FoxFarm Soil & Fertilizer Company
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So the soil seems to be optimal for its pH level. Have you add garden lime to the soil? If you have, that might have raised the pH to seven or over. Nutes usually bring the pH a bit down. To lower pH and increase acidity you can add sulphate of ammonia or urea which are high nitrogen fertilizers. Maybe try it to one or two plants and see if that helps. If your pH meter still shows 7 or over, test it to make sure It really works(unless you already have). You can pee on it

Oh and keep the needle in the soil for good five minutes.