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Oct-10-2007, 00:26
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Whiskys CFL 2
Did I say i wasnt growing.. I guess that was a lie. Summer is out of the way and its getting cold again. So temperatures drop and having a grow in the place you sleep doesnt kill you with the heat. And its also easier to cool off the plants.
So whats the difference this time? Well just one difference. I got rid of that "grow teepee" and Ive cleaned the sh*t out of the room and moved some furniture.. now I can fit in a wardrobe.. if thats what you call them. I saw them for sale its like a cheap alternative to a wardrobe. You stick some tubes together then put a cloth over it and ta-da! a wardrobe. No more teepees made of garbage bags ! phew...
So ill be doing that shopping this weekend and hopefully everything will b set and ready for the plants to flower in. The wardrobe will be used only for flower. I didnt have many 2700Ks last time just 2 ( wtf was I thinking ) the flower hut will have 5 this time at the top and several 6500K lights at the bottom. If I see that it isnt enough ill add more.
I have 7 plants now in veg inside the little hub I made in the last grow, that place is great! The seeds unfortunately are still sucky.. and even more sucky cause I ran out of the other ones and had to get some weed and use the ones that came with it.. Well most are born with defficiencies and one is really mutant, mor then last time but the new growths are looking normal. Ill be posting pics tomorrow.
Theres 7 plants but another 2 pots with seeds which will be coming out soon. Out of the 7 1 looks like it has ozone damage but isnt ozone damage and its hangins on there the new growth is green i hope it manages, just in case I have seeds germing. 3 are ok but are burned a little bit ( they were going crazy deficiency so I nuked them, sry ). One is mutant and is about 2 times bigger then the rest. And the other 2 are small they were planted later then the rest but are catching up there growing the 3rd leaves.
Theres 6 6500K 23W Cfls at the top and its just fine for veg. Im hoping for 2-4 females. I might buy new pots to size it better with the hut but we shall see how it turns out this weekend, then I can tell you for sure. Im also getting a big fan for the hut, Ill place it to the side and cut a hole there for the fan.
Remember I said the previous weed sucked. Well yea it did but I dont understand a part of it. I smoked the whole jar and then the last.. say 10 joints were fabulous. I was amazed I got some friends to smoke it too and they loved it.
Its cheap its sh*ty but this time its going to be better. I will also buy a timer so I dont f*ck up on the schedule as I seldomly did last time.
Well.. thats about it, I hope some old friends visit this post Ive missed you all 
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Oct-10-2007, 13:33
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I just took some photos.
Sorry about the smudge The flower pics will be in proper pots and with good pics. I wont take veg pics that often since its almost exactly like my 1st grow.
Notice the deformed leaf growth on the big plant, and the nute burn on some others, its under control no worries. Theres also a f*cked up one on the first pic middle row first plant, its has extreme defficiency or some mess up from birth Im just letting it grow along, the new growth on it seems cured.
The foil everyone hates it but its not a big deal, no worries 
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Oct-11-2007, 12:58
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Went shopping today. Im exhausted I dont have any motor vehicle so I have to pedal the f*ck out of the bicycle for 2 hours just to go to the place.. Its this other big market that sells this kind of stuff. It was worth it. Stuff was all half price then capitalist a**hole bauhaus.
Bought a pack of 4 2700K Cfls. 36W -> 180 1600 lumens for 16 AMD.
Bought 2 timers. I saw electric ones but they were twice the price of normal ones so I got normal ones... its the same thing. 7 AMD each.
Bought also .. dont know what you call them but.. "circuit divider"? like you plug one and theres 6. Ill have total of 9 circuits.. Ill be running 8 lights ( 6 2700K 2 6500K ) and a big 16cm 50w fan I got from my friend.
Ill be buying the hut thing in the weekend and ill have the flower system set up by monday. Im busy in the weekend. Thats it for today.
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Oct-12-2007, 17:02
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wounds in my hands, back pain because of a cramp, very tired... pissed off because prices are higher then last summer.. but I made it. The flower hut is set up and fully operational. Took me 5 hours. I remade all of the light fixures because some were shortcircuiting the whole house due to wires touching inside the electrical tape.
Its all perfect now the only thing missing is.. plants!!!
I have 6 pots in there, 10 fit but Ill be doing 6 only. Ill get probably 2-3 fems this time Ill plant those and clean out the veg pots and re-seed them and get another bunch and get them into the flower hut. So therell be continual harvest which is pretty cool.
I will get much better buds this time Im sure of it.
I could have more lights but I think this is enough.. Ill be adding 1-2 more if I see it necesarry. 4-2.7K 180W CFLs and 4-2.7K 120W CFLs in there at the moment. I let it run for 15 mins and there was almost no heat at pot level. That fan is kicking butt.
I have all the wiring up at the top shelf so waterspills get owned 
My friend knows this guy that came from amsterdam some weeks ago and is growing. He might be able to give me some seeds! But I dont count on it.
Thats about it.. friday 5 plants are going into flower. They are 3 weeks old now 1 month big or not is enough so in you go (gaschamber)  it would be fun to smoke inside that closet with the zipper closed, lol!
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Oct-12-2007, 17:57
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Just stopped in to say good luck! I didn't see your last grow, but this one looks promising.
You can have all those CFLs in there and it not get hot? What are the temps? That fan must kick ass! What kind is it? Only reason I ask, is that in my cab now w/ 6 cool CFLs, I'm getting up to around 83, which isn't bad.. but when I put in those red specs, temps are gonna rise. I'm going to have to get a stronger exhaust fan and add intake.
Looking forward to seeing your plants flower under some CFLs. What strain are they, or is it bagseed?
I'm actually putting my one and only plant into flower on Monday, it's been vegging for 38 days. (it was the only bagseed to sprout/germ out of 4). It'll be under 6 - 42 watters (2700K). Hopefully it turns out to be a GIRL.
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Oct-12-2007, 23:45
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Hey Whiskey. Everything is looking good as far as i can see. I with bron wondering what your temps are. What is your total wattage and what is your cubic footage of your flower room? Keep up the good work.
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Oct-13-2007, 04:00
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The seeds are bagseed. You can check out my first log and look at pages 5-10 which will give you an idea of what they will look like in the future. But these will be much better then that. 2 seeds which had still to sprout have dissapeared into the mud.. dont you just hate that. Im still waiting for the guy who supposebly has some nice seeds to get in contact with me. I would buy seeds Im not cheap or anything but where I live you cant get seeds. And even if some seedshops ship worldwide, postmen might open the package and if he finds seeds, even if its legal they will say oh its "drug" seeds and try to do something and they would ship it ofcourse to my friend because I dont want them searching my house 
Thanks for the output guys,
hopefully bron post pics of its progress.
44cm wide 55cm acros 114cm high ( 17.3in 21.7in 44.9in ), the room is actually bigger ( 44cm 108cm 114cm -- 17.3in 42.5in 44.9in) but I leave what I dont use empty. The fan is blowing right onto the bulbs so its not letting any of the heat accumulate, although I wish I had a smaller fan I could put on the floor and make it shoot upwards. For the temps Ill tell you on friday so I can have it run the whole day and see for sure how its going to be. The material of the wardrobe is cloth so maybe it transpires heat from the inside to the outside.
And theres no aluminum or mylar, just big rolls of plasticy white paper which reduces heat build up by a small amount ( painting walls white vs using mylar less reflection but less heat also deffinately worth it ). The fan is a 40 cm ( 16in ) 50W fan.
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Oct-14-2007, 04:01
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just a cool pic to show how tightly packed nodes are on a couple of these plants..
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Oct-14-2007, 05:35
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cheap lazy people cant clean be bothered to clean the water. Im 90% sure the problems Im having is because the water is dirty. I let it sit out 2-3 days before using it but even with the chlore out of the water its still white/orange-ish. sick bast*rds. Im buying clean ( what did you call that evaporated then collected and bottled? ) purified ph balanced water. I remember my plants last time loved it and to spend an extra 20 bucks per group of plants is irrelevant. Ill buy 10-15 liters, it should go a month or so.
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Oct-14-2007, 15:25
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Buy the gallon jugs of distilled water....its like a dollar per gallon and its totally nuetral with no additives...
Its what I like to call THE BOMB!!!!!!!!!
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Oct-15-2007, 13:37
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yea man clean water is da bomb.. plants love it and appreciate you. bought a bunch of bottles, ill be feeding only this type of water from now on. my plants are really crying because of the other water.
everything in the flower room is done i added the last light and now its 9 2700K lights .. 14400 lumens.. thats little compared to what some other people have. im thinking of adding another 4 of those 180W cfls, that still has time though
i bought some party cups and i put 12 seeds into germination using the wet towel method. you get some paper towels or toilet paper and put seeds on it then wet it ( not soak ) then put it in a plastic sanwich bag and put under the lights. make sure no air goes in or out so humidity builds up and gets to the inside of the seeds and awakens the babies
i will be cloning this time for sure. ill take 2 clones or so out of each girl plant and put in water ( they dont sell cloning gel or powder here  ) it cant hurt so i will try. i couldnt find rockwool for that eigther so dirt will have to do.
these 12 new plants are going to be much better first starting off with good water and all. but that doesnt mean i trashed the current ones.
the flower hut can house 6 plants currently which is the number of females ill get if im not extra lucky. if i am extra lucky i can add those 4 lights and another 4 pots fit in there. |
Oct-15-2007, 17:39
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Hey Good Luck, whisky. The timer is a great addition!
Plants are looking good too.
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Oct-15-2007, 19:00
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Sounds like a good plan dude. Just remember all those cfls are gonna put off a ton of heat.
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Oct-17-2007, 11:37
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Removed total of 3 males. 1 ( the mutant unfortunately.. why me why meee.. ) turned out female and 2 to sex in the upcoming week. another 2 popped out of the dirt and i planted 3 of the germed seeds into their small cups. A friend of mine found a guy who might give us seeds but we dont know what they are or how they are yet, and were thinking of buying online so Im looking at seedshops right now. Anyone knows good world-wide shipping seedshops?
Im thinking that since I cant get HID lamps I should stick to cheap breeds and cheap feminine seeds would be great. We shouldnt waste 50 bucks to get WW and just have 3 females who dont grow or produce as they should at maximum efficiency... instead get a pack of cheap ( not dirt dirt crappy just cheap - average ) seeds feminized and grow those.
I cant get the expensive WW / bubblegum / blueberry strains ill look into this and post my thoughs about things i see, keep tuned!
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Oct-17-2007, 14:15
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Hey dude. I recently ordered from Gypsy Nirvana's Seed Boutique and had no problems at all with them. Gypsy Nirvana's Seed Boutique
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thanks, I looked at that I think its pretty cool and they give you a freebie pack of seeds? like random that you dont know what it is? The prices seem reasonable also. We were about to order from Sensi-Seeds and then it said they cant ship it here... I wrote Gypsy Nirvana asking if they ship to my area..
If they do, ill be thinking about the following.. (allfeminized) durbanpoison, hollandshope, FMX-Grapefruit x NL, FMX-Zamal x Skunk Special, kerela krush, afganica, strawberryhaze, .... are prices i can afford. And if I do buy ill make clones or collect polen from a male and polinate one bud to give me more seeds.
If they dont ship here then I cant buy and Ill just continue with my XX seeds
By this weekend Ill have planted the other 9 into their cups. I transplanted the mutant into a larger container, if I hadnt mentioned it..
photos coming in a couple of days..
now just wait... wait... wait...
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I'm looking forward towards further developments Whisky.
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Can't wait to see some pics!
And yeah, I've heard great things about Gypsy Nirvana s.b.. I will be ordering seeds from them in a month or so. |
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the seed thing is on hold for the time being.. we need a credit card and an adress
pics are here! as you can see lower growth is damaged do to bad water, but new growth is coming out just fine. the mutant female is probably a little shocked ( 3rd pic one in the back in a green pot ).
a friend told me where to find HPS light at a decent price. Ill be upgrading to HPS in 1 year.. so next grow in autumn. It must be autumn because of the temperature
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there just wasnt anything to update. today the I elliminated one male. theres another plant that spouted at the same time as that male and its like 1/3 the height. its so small like a early born child, and its not really growing. the new growth seems healthy but its not growing it had some burn also. actually they all had burn.
I flushed the plants ( 3 ) and transplanted my favorite plant into a green pot. im 80% sure its a female the catlyx or what ever the name was are growing so long and theres no sign of balls under it which if male there would be by now. the mutant is 100% sure female she has hairs at the top but shes also sick. so i flushed everyone and by this weekend everyone should be happy.
Im trying to wait untill my favorite plant to grow a little more so I can flower both that and the mutant together. Out of the 11 cups ( 3 seeds arent germinating I dono why so the 12th is empty ) 3 have already spouted and I did some digging gently and 3 more are on their way no more then 3 days
The 2 babies that are in the soda bottles are doing fine. Both growing a little slow maybe not enough light, one is mutant ... -.- -.- -.- -.- -.- ... why do aliens abduct MY seeds... why why!??? 
Photos coming in the weekend,
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sorry for the delay, heres the pics I promissed. not all have popped out, Im still waiting for the rest to come out. The plant I loved turned out female.. hurray 
the elder mutant female is going into flower this weekend, with her sister joining after 1 or 2 weeks.
look at the babies and the one at the back right.. bigger then the rest.. thats a male 99.9% sure of it ! but Ill let it grow to be sure |
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the mutant female entered the flower hut this morning and is now on day 1 of flower.
the other plants are doing fine in the veg cab.
out of 12 that I planted 4 spouted. I dug up and found the seeds had rotted ( too much water? ) so I put another 10 seeds today in germination.
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