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Norkali's 2nd Indoor Grow - *Cinderella99*

Welcome to Norkali's 2nd indoor growlog. My first indoor grow didn't go too bad at all IMO, I was happily surprised with my results.

Now I have learned from my initial mistakes and have taken the time to fix and upgrade my growspace:
  • 6'' Cooltube!
  • SunMaster 600w Cool Deluxe MH conv. bulb
  • SunMaster 600w Super HPS Deluxe bulb
  • 600w Digital Greenhouse ballast
  • 4'' duct - replaced with 6''.
  • 4 more 2'' intake holes, total of 6 now.
  • No more ghetto chains, Hi-Low reflector hangers.
  • Plastic tub for flushing/runoff/pH testing, baking racks to elevate pots.

Other implemented/planned improvements:
  • Quality genetics - Joey Weed's Cinderella 99
  • Fox Farms Nutes:
    -Grow Big
    -Tiger Bloom
    -Big Bloom
  • Also, Liquid Karma & Liquinox Start Vitamin B-1
  • Purchased both soil and liquid pH test kits
  • Purchased pH Up/Down solution.
  • Prilled Dolomite Lime to combat acidic Fox Farms nutes.
  • LST & Topping during grow.



Soil will remain the same, Black Gold Seedling Mix to start, then Fox Farms Ocean Mix.

Temps are SO much better with the CoolTube, temps barely raise with the door closed.

I really want to play with ScrOG as well, but am still unsure of where/how to mount the screen/how big of screen spacing, etc. - Any advice?

Seeds were popped into the ground on Oct. 13 @ 12:01am PST. It has been three days now, no signs of anything yet, but that was expected. I'm giving them at least a week before I worry. I did not use any pre-planting germination techniques, just a dry seed into moist soil and patience.
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looks good. I am on my first, already have learned more with the 2nd grow box and the 3rd will be even better.. your right with the ghetto shit..lol Like MINE..lol.... Looks Good, though.

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Sprouted! Days 1-2

4/4 sprouted!

Pic 1 - One had trouble with a stubborn seed shell...required tweezers.

Pic 2 - Taken yesterday, (Oct. 17) Same time as Picture 1.

Pic 3 - Wide shot, lol.

Pic 4 - All 4. (Oct. 17)

Pic 5 - What a difference a day makes....(Oct. 18)

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Good growth....are they stretching too much? should I lower the light?
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Just added 1 tsp. of Fox Farms Grow Big and 1 tsp. of Big Bloom. pH adjusted up to around 6.5.
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Really nice setup man ill def be following your thread because i am ordering some c99 end of this week did it take long to get the seeds from HD? And ill be growing inside as well but as of now doing a beta run on some bag seed in the log YaYo's Benchmark.
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Damn Norkali, you're the man. Awesome first grow and I'll be watching this one closely.
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It looks like a nice grow setup you have going! I'll be watching also.

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Thanks. HD was fast, maybe 4-5 days with fast delivery option.

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Im thinking of ordering some of that C99 from Joey I have been hearing so much about. What did the packaging look like ? Did you have it sent somewhere else besides where you are growing at ? I feel like I should send them somewhere else but don't want to have to tell anyone what they are...
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Im thinking of ordering some of that C99 from Joey I have been hearing so much about. What did the packaging look like ? Did you have it sent somewhere else besides where you are growing at ? I feel like I should send them somewhere else but don't want to have to tell anyone what they are...
Packaging?? HD is based in Canada, so it just looks like any other international package/mail. I had it shipped directly. If you have to worry about what's coming in the mail because of the occupants of the house, then you probably shouldn't be growing there; realizing of course that I don't know you nor your living situation.

People worry too much about their snail mail being watched. Unless your ordering hundreds of seeds or using stolen credits cards, in my personal opinion at least, you shouldn't worry about it.

Think about it. If the USPS --> FBI/DEA were really interested in you and your odd horticultural purchases, they would just track you on the internet, subpoena a couple of things, warrant, call to your friendly local police dept., bing bang boom. You're done.

Local cops? ....put it this way, if you believe that you possess the nerve, knowledge, and skill to maintain a successful marijuana grow, you should be smart enough not to attract police attention on a general basis in the first place....getting some seeds in the mail should be one of your lesser worries.
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Days 8-10

Is it just me or do the leaves look kind of twisted/folded....like the "wind" is too strong. The fan is on the lowest setting as it is...already moved farther way too. A better fan is actually on the way; will be much better suited for my operation.

I think I will be transplanting into bigger pots soon, maybe in the next day or two...oh yeah, I added a 1/2'' of Fox Farms Ocean Forest mix to top the little pots off...the soil will be 100% Fox Farms when I transplant as well.

Probably less frequent updating as well, I'm beginning to think that two pics a day (on average) is excessive. Unless of course you guys like the OCD style documentation. Somebody is paying for the bandwidth. It will be awesome though to watch a high quality time-lapse when the ladies* are done.

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Day 11

Pic's 2 & 3 - See how the leaves are folded/bent? Too much "wind"?

Pic 5 - "special" leaf.
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Norkali, i am currently in close to the same stage as u, my seedlings have just popped their heads out of the dirt today.

What kind of light did u use for ur seedlings just after they sprouted? I dont wanna put the 400w MH on em yet do i?

How far away was ur light from the seedling?? Also i AM supposed to have 24 hr light at this stage correct?

2nd grow Heres my gro-log if u want to check it out. I also have a photo problem lol, i guess its not necessarily a bad thing tho right
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Norkali, i am currently in close to the same stage as u, my seedlings have just popped their heads out of the dirt today.

What kind of light did u use for ur seedlings just after they sprouted? I dont wanna put the 400w MH on em yet do i?

How far away was ur light from the seedling?? Also i AM supposed to have 24 hr light at this stage correct?

2nd grow Heres my gro-log if u want to check it out. I also have a photo problem lol, i guess its not necessarily a bad thing tho right
I use 18/6, I never use 24/0. (Unless I had a mother plant)

I put the seedling right under a 600w MH conversion bulb immediately, at about 5.5 ft. away w/ a cool tube (and mylar.)

Now it's about 3.5-4 ft. away.

Good log, get your lights closer though! Swich to the MH!!
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u put the MH on em as soon as they came out of the dirt?? About 5' away huh? Ok ill out the MH on em then.. Hope they dont stress the lil guys out.
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Days 12-14

Just got done transplanting the babies.... 3 of 4 went well. One was questionable.

The plant with the "special leaf" was the "questionable" transplant. As I was in the process of physically transplanting to the new pot, I (stupidly) took my hand off of the bottom of the rootsquare and the rootball just...fell through. The top section of the soil basically detached from the main rootball and it (the rootball) fell like 3 inches into the awaiting hole....I simply placed what was left in my hand and set it back on top gently and worked it all in.

Pic 1 - Day 12

Pic 2 - Day 13

Pic 3 - Today, Day 14 - before transplant.

Pic's 4&5 - Today, after transplant.

Will update tomorrow sometime to show results. Edit: Also, I was baked last update and stated I would use 24/0 for mothers. Nahhh...lol. Why would I do that. 18/6 all the way. and cwesto....do it; they'll be alright, they need it.
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Wow those cindy's have spread out nice i love how your grow area is so clean and fresh, my little benchmark has helped so much so ive almost worked out all the bugs in my box so soon to order some of that cindy I wouldnt sweat over that little leaf i mean not every plant has perfect genetic structure. Seems super healthy to me.
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They look nic have you grown Ciny 99 before? Somone recomended the strain to me as a great UP HIGH,, What do you think? As well does it get super tall likea Sativa?

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Lovely Norkali, ur plants r looking absolutely wonderful. Ill be following ur gro. U got a nice log so far with nice plants, and also our grows like a week apart from each other so it will be good to compare and contrast.

I was also wondering how far do u have ur MH away from ur plants, and what ur day time and night time temps are and what humidity do u have???

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Lol. Thanks. Just a bit funny.

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I like "up" highs. That's mainly why I chose Cindy 99. That and the ease of the grow. I don't know about the stretching, I plan on doing a ScrOG anyway.

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Lovely Norkali, ur plants r looking absolutely wonderful. Ill be following ur gro. U got a nice log so far with nice plants, and also our grows like a week apart from each other so it will be good to compare and contrast.
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I was also wondering how far do u have ur MH away from ur plants, and what ur day time and night time temps are and what humidity do u have???
Keep up the good work norkali
Before the transplant, the MH bulb was approx. 3' 3'' away from the top of the plants. After I transplanted last night, the new pots raised them up closer to the lights and now they are exactly 2' 5'' away from the tops of the plants. I haven't seen any signs of stress throughout the day.

Morning: 69-73°
Afternoon & Evening: 73-78°
Night: 65-68°

Humidity: 35-55%
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Day 15

Transplanting went fine with all 4.

They were topped for the first time tonight as well.

Next couple of days will be sloooow...
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Old Nov-01-2007, 01:09
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whats up norkali your grow area looks awesome nice and clean thats the way a grow room should look. I to have some c99 to grow but i am waiting for a while to pop the seeds. I will be sticking around for this one.
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Look'n good like always Norkali. Can we see some pics of the top'd plants?? Ive never topped B4 which is what i plan on doing to half my Big buds so id like to see were u cut at.

PS Ill be posting some new pics tonight from last 2 days, they should be up around 10PM EST. U should come check em out, and let me kno what u think about em.
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