Closet Doms in Water.... An Ad Hoc Log of Black Dominas in DWC Hydro - Cannabis.com Forums Message Boards - Medical Marijuana, Cannabis Club, Dispensary, News

MVP · #1 (**permalink**) Dec-11-2007, 15:49

Well, I finally did it. My first attempt at a grow log. Now please be patient and don't expect daily pictures or updates - although I'll try to give them - as I am in the process of getting a new job and that is gonna disrupt some things during this log.

My goal is to post updates at least 3x weekly or more often as life allows. Some background: I grew a couple of Black Dominas (indica strain) in August thru October, but encountered problems with excessive heat (100 F unexpectedly during a late summer warm spell) and then had my biggest cola come crashing down and took out a couple of nice branches. Lesson learned: tie up all colas ahead of time or SCROG them.

So here is where I'm starting this log. I have 2 beautiful girls that I grew from clones (cuts taken 9/28) and they stand about 18 in tall right now, and they have been topped/FIM'ed twice. They are just finishing veg (18/6) in a Hydrohut Mini as I wait for my last crop to finish.

Here are some pics below. Pay no mind to the yellowing leaves on the right side of the pics... that is a Super Skunk mother that is being leached with water for a future project.

Another update in a while when I get back from Home Depot. Gotta grab some DIY supplies as I am figuring to install screening soon and want all the materials on hand when I prepare to move them to the flower closet.

MVP

MVP · #2 (**permalink**) Dec-12-2007, 13:58

Right now the Black Dominas (aka BD's) are in temporary quarters in a HydroHut Mini, but will be moved to the flower room within the next 10 days to two weeks. The flowering space is literally the left half of a closet in a spare room - it measures 42 in wide by 24 in deep and although the room has 8 ft ceilings, I am limited to approx 6.5 ft in height due to a activated carbon filter attached to the 6 inch Vortex 449 CFM inline fan.

So the Votex fan is rated at 449 CFM, but seems to push quite a bit stronger than that so I have it attached to a home made variable speed switch - basically a dimmer switch rheostat - that allows me to dial up or down the speed of the fan the same as one would dim lights in their home. The carbon filter is 8 in x 20 in reduced to a 6 in flexible venting and pushed by the fan through the ceiling and vented outside via the roof.

The walls are painted flat white and the closet opening is shielded from light leakage with layers of "Panda" plastic - black on outside/white on the inside. Temps are monitored by a Hygro Thermometer that displays the humidity and temperature for two separate areas, and also records the min/max for each area.

JackHerer · #3 (**permalink**) Dec-12-2007, 15:48

Cool MVP will be watching your Black Dominas as Ive had a look at some of those seeds on the old seedbay. Looks like your growing hydro as well so thats good to see also

MVP · #4 (**permalink**) Dec-12-2007, 16:27

Hey Jack, Welcome to the log. Last time I grew BD's I got 4 oz off two plants without paying much attention to the PPM and PH (first grow in ~ 15 years)... This time I am hoping to better that effort twice over, but with this hobby who knows what will happen.

Stayed tuned it will be informative that's for sure. Hopefully fun and productive too! Comments and questions are encouraged.

MVP

MVP · #5 (**permalink**) Dec-13-2007, 14:57

So in this closet grow space I am using a Sun Systems 430W HPS running a hortilux bulb. The reflector is a Hydrofarm ValuBrite unit with high reflectivity German specular aluminum and optional 4 inch air cooling ports that are so far not being utilized. The ballast is located to the far right of the closet space to avoid excessive heat in the flowering zone (which is in the left half of the closet).

My nutrients are as close to 100 percent organic as possible. I am using are mainly the Botanicare line:
- Pure Blend Pro (Grow and Bloom, depending on the light cycle)
- CalMag
- Liquid Karma
- Sweet
I am also using Earth Juice MicroBlast for micronutrients
And I am using DutchMaster's Zone as a root conditioner.

MVP · #6 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 13:55

OK, the closet is getting prepped today - I harvested the plants that were finishing in the flowering closet and they are drying in my MacGyver drying contraption - pics below. Gonna install a screen and give this SCROG thing a try I guess. Wish me luck!

Weedhound · #7 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 14:01

Wow.....you got alot of stuff efficiently packed in here. Good job! I can't wait to see these dominas in a scrog formation!!!! They look really good right now.....happy and healthy.

MVP....your reflector sounds ALOT like mine.....can you take a pic of it when you get a chance?

MVP · #8 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 14:21

Here are some pics, including the reflector hood, etc. I will be vacuuming the filter cover today (it is SO gross looking), then installing a muffin fan on the reflector hood to create some airflow to keep temps cooler immediately under the lamp. I will probably add a lens to the lamp sometime in the next few weeks by having a local glass shop cut a piece of tempered glass to fit the hood...

Weedhound · #9 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 14:22

Yes that looks quite a bit like mine but is it white on the inside?

MVP · #10 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 14:34

It is that high reflectivity German specular aluminum stuff - in other words it is an aluminum interior that has a speckled finish that looks like an orange peel wall texture...

Weedhound · #11 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 15:26

Yeah that's what mine has too. Im using it for my 400w mh for vegging and I REALLY like that reflector.

MVP · #12 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 16:01

WH, if I remember right, you have the lens and a fan on yours? Or just a fan? How does it help the temps?

I'm half way thu installing a muffin fan right now...

Weedhound · #13 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 16:33

I think jorge cervantes mentioned in his book that that particular reflector was one of the best deals in North America....which is saying something in my book.

I use both the glass and the muffin fan (dayton 4 inch....105cfm) but I originally bought the glass back when I used that reflector for my 1kw mh and hps so I was asking it to do a LOT more back then.....which it did very well with a four inch 279 cfm inline fan.
The 400wmh is MUCH less hot than a 1kw (of course) but a 400w/hps will run even cooler than that. The difference between your setup and mine is the space. I have mine running in a huge room so the heat buildup is pretty much nil. I dont at ALL know what it would be in a small space like yours. Are you planning on venting into the room itself? That's what I'm doing.

MVP · #14 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 17:01

The room itself is vented thru a 6 in 449 CFM Vortex inline fan that is hooked up to the carbon filter. The whole closet itself is 7 ft wide x 2 ft deep by 8 ft tall = 112 cu. ft. The room is an additional 12 ft x 13 ft = 1152 cu. ft., which means my fan can clear the entire room+closet in under 3 min when run wide open. I usually have it throttled back to 60 percent or so, which means it clears the room in about 4.5 minutes.

My only concern for heat is directly under the light where I have noticed ambient air temps run 80-85 degrees at times. Much of that has changed now that I am running my light during evenings to keep room temps warm at night and moderate during the daytime hours.

I saw in Opie's SCROG (LSTTT thread) that he has a fan directly under the lamp blowing up onto it, so maybe I'll spec that into my build and use that as an additional measure if needed...

MVP · #15 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 17:07

Yeah, I love Jorge Cervantes book as well as Greg Green's book too. They get a lot of use around my house. For any beginners or intermediate growers that are following this thread, I highly recommend them in this order.

Amazon.com: Marijuana Horticulture: The Indoor/Outdoor Medical Grower's Bible: Books: Jorge Cervantes

Amazon.com: The Cannabis Grow Bible: The Definitive Guide to Growing Marijuana for Recreational and Medical Use: Books: Greg Green

MVP · #16 (**permalink**) Dec-16-2007, 23:19

Spent some time workin' with wood today... building the screen of course. First I built a frame out of fir strips (1x2 roughs for those unfamiliar),
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then measured my 2 in x 2 in screening to fit the frame. I went and test mounted the frame first so that if it didn't fit, I was ahead of the game cuz I did not have to remove the screening to fix the fit problem.
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