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Haha thanks for the compliments Opie, but waiting 7 minutes wasn't too bad. You see I just turned on automatic refresh every 30 seconds 
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I have a quick question. Can any of you tell by the pictures posted what stage the trichs are? I am thinking I need to get a pocket microscope from Radio Shack to see the best but is there any indication in the pictures? Does the entire trichome turn milky, or just the head?
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Opie....what thread is your scrog setup under? I want to check it out.
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Looking at the pictures, I can't really tell. However I think I see some cloudy and some just turning cloudy. Perhaps there is even a couple turning amber or perhaps it is the amber light. If you could get as close as possible and turn off the HPS maybe we could tell better. Try to get a profile of some triches with a dark background.
The entire trichome turns colors, but if you go too long the stem part turns extremely amber and withers to nothingness.
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Here is a picture of a leaf I removed and put on a dark background. Is this better? It is under sunlight is all.
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If I were you I would hike over to the Shack and pick up a 30x lighted scope for 10 bucks or so. It looks like some clear, some cloudy, maybe a couple going amber but need magnification to tell for sure...
BTW, check out this link to see what a good balance of triches is... IMHO >>
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Look near the bottom center on max resolution... this is a pic from Markass that he posted a month or two ago.
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He's only at day 27!!! I've found that there seems to be two sets of trichs.....an early set that pops out and ripens kind of early and the "main crowd" that really START coming out at about week four and five and hit their stride around week 8-ish. I have to agree with everyone cm, a cheapie radioshack microscope will work fine for you and you'll have fun snipping off a bit here and there and watching the changes occur.
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That's a much better picture for seeing trichomes. It's still not great, but I think I'm pretty sure I see a couple amber ones in there. A whole bunch of cloudy and hardly any clear. In my experience it's nearly time to harvest, but it can't be if you are only on day 27. Are you using some crazy-ass hormone to speed up flowering time?
Checked out that photo MVP. Now there's some brown looking amber.
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I'm still sure those are the early birds.....the pistils are white as snow. He's got a ways to go.
I've learned NOT to start looking at the trichs until week 5 or so.....you'll see a whole different ballgame with baby/clear trichs starting.
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Opie: I am using an Aeroponic setup, but nothing special. 35/65 ratio of calmag to probloom with some hydrogen peroxide every so often along with RO water is all I am giving these girls. I am going to pick up that microscope tomorrow morning and I'll post back with the results.
Weedhound: If tomorrow after I get the microscope and all the trichs are either milky or amber would I start to think about harvest time and preparation? Or should I wait a week or two and see if the trichs continue to develop?
This seems to be an issue of me not being able to give a clear picture to compare trichome color, so I am going to buy the microscope tomorrow and that should help things out.
Thanks a ton guys/gals!
P.S. Some discoloration / yellowing in spots on some leaves is natural in the flowering stage? I have some and it is either that, or I am not changing the res often enough.
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What medium are you in? I'd take a VERY small snip daily from the exact same area of the plant and look at the trichs. I'd be willing to bet a LOT that you are going to see a whole bunch of new ones start to pop up. Unlike the early bird ones these will COVER your leaves like mad and trip over each other to compete for space The ABSOLUTE earliest I'd think I'd see cloudy trichs is about Day 45.....and I'm being lenient unless its a strain KNOWN to finish quick like lowryder.
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When I first started growing I asked my hydro guy how long they had to flower before they were ready. His EXACT words to me were...."you can pick them at six weeks but its better to wait until 8." Now.....here is what I heard "They'll be finished at six weeks"
I harvested my first two grows at five to six weeks. I had looked at trichs....they were cloudy and amber so it sure looked done to me. X-Crispi was the one that finally reined me in and made me wait a full eight weeks because mine were ALWAYS finished so early.....ahead of schedule no less.....quicker than even the breeder was saying. And I just couldn't seem to get over approx 2 oz's a plant and couldn't figure out why.
Well....here's why. You are looking at the early trichs.....sort of like the preflowers. I can promise you that by weeks six you will be seeing an entire NEW field of clear baby trichs starting and you will be floored by how many there are.. Once I waited like I was told I actually DID find out what a finished plant looks like......and it includes some red pistils and some bulk to the bud as well.
Trust me......your plants are just getting started.
Who else amongst you checks trichs at three weeks....raise hands please. 
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P.S. Some discoloration / yellowing in spots on some leaves is natural in the flowering stage?
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Spots aren't really supposed to happen at any stage, at least as far as I'm aware. The fan leaves yellowing all over the plant is common as the plant is trying to eat it's last bit of nitrogen and other foods. Basically killing itself to give the young every last bit of hope. But no spots on leaves. Got a picture? Perhaps for the problem section and here?
Thanks for the heads up WH. I never saw them develop in stages like that, except for on different parts of the plant. You talked about cutting part off and triches taking over that spot. Have you ever heard of anyone perpetually harvesting that way? I mean always in flower? I read about that a few places a long time ago, but it seems like nobody's heard of it.
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I've made every mistake in the...... 
I haven't heard anything such as what you mean.....the closest I can think of is something like a SOG setup. Are you talking about the same plant growing over and over? Cut a piece off and it grows back? Not sure I understand...... 
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my Thais have eaten yellows for weeks.
its gotten so severe that there and basically ZERO leafs left at all.
just about a dozen sticks with nugs on em.
but the trics are still mostly clear.
(edit) btw- they are in week 13 of flower.
prolly another 3 or 4 weeks.
*thinks to self: Thai, yeah, sativa, long flowering cycle. ok got it.
*note to self: do not try to grow Thai anymore, freakin idiot
CM, its definately too early.
get the scope. its fun,,,,and addictive, youll be bleary-eyed by the time you take a break from looking.
advice- use a lil flashlite to increase the light when scoping
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You're not an idiot at all. You're learning from your own experience, the best way.
Just hope that it finishes so outrageous that it's all worth your while. Keep up ;your good work.
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thanks Shov, i kinda set myself up for this by trying to clone my first grow,,,, and got "lucky" enuf that it worked. so i kinda forced myself to grow this twice before i knew it would take this long.
i started Betty end of last april, chopped in oct-nov, and the trichs werent ready. now the clones have been around roughly since july i guess? we're talkin 9-10 months lookin at the same 2 grows, thats just insane.
i am really lookin forward to the Russians and beyond. at one point i wanted to save the old thai strain, but,,,i highly doubt ill intentionally invest this much time in another grow.
i'll pop up a pic later of the leafless sticks on the clone thread
ok, rant/whine button "OFF"
CM, sorry for the mini-hyjack, keep up the good work.
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No worries man, I now know to not grow crazy thai sativas unless I have extra space where I could grow something else at the same time
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