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Lightbulb Flowering the MK Clones from the Cloning Log...

Rather than continue the Cloning Log and dilute the topic, I am posting quick updates on the 4 clones here. Right now they are in their 36 hour dark period, getting ready to enter Flower on Christmas day at 6pm.

I built a small SCROG type of setup, but will not be filling the entire screen. Instead I will use the 2 layer screening to LST them a bit when they stretch, and to support the buds upon maturity.

To check out the Cloning Log there is a link in my sig below. Here are some pics:
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Old Dec-24-2007, 13:03
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The Setup

I threw this together over a day's time to get them flowering ASAP. I have the Black Domina SCROG going right now and its gonna be at least 2-3 more weeks if not longer until I can flip them to 12/12.

The clones were outgrowing their area so I thought "WTF, might as well throw them into the Hut and flower 'em..."

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- PVC structure and screening to support LST and flowering
- 175W HID - running MH in pics, will switch to 150W HPS tomorrow
- running 2 DWC bubblers with 10 in airstones, each on dual feed airpump
- running my Botanicare (organic) nutes as always
- enclosure is a HydroHut Mini 39 in x 39 in x 6.5 ft tall

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Very nice set up, love how you did the Screen. Is that soccer goal netting? What is the second pic of?
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Welcome Jerr Bear!

Hey JG, the screen is made of good old fashioned baling wire. It is pretty rigid, yet flexible enough to string back and forth to create a netting. It comes wrapped up in an oiled paper to prevent it from rusting, so it is a bit messy to work with. Overall it created a nice net that I decided would be best as 3 inch x 3 inch. Here are some additional pics.

Regarding Pic 2, that is the top and bottom of the PVC frame that I put together ahead of time. You'll notice it in the other pics when you look closely. Most everything else in the frame is just 1/2 inch PVC pipe cut to length.
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Ok now I understand. Great Idea, so good it looks professional or even store bought. You need to pattent that one quick.
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Nutrients for the Little Ladies...

Well, last night at 7pm I changed to a HPS conversion bulb and flipped them to 12/12. In the left side bubbler we have Red and Blackie. In the right side bubbler we have Tootsie and Blondie (they were named after somebody's doggies).

Officially I will now refer to them as Big Red and Tootsie. Here is the nutrient regimen from Noon on 12/23:

Big Red:
3 gal RO water = 11 PPM
+ 2ml/gal Zone = 11 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal EJ Microblast = 175 PPM
+ 8 ml/gal CalMag = 556 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal PBP Bloom = 1086 PPM
+ topped off with RO = 982 PPM, 5.7 PH

Tootsie:
3 gal RO water = 12 PPM
+ 2ml/gal Zone = 12 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal EJ Microblast = 183 PPM
+ 8 ml/gal CalMag = 595 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal PBP Bloom = 1054 PPM
+ topped off with RO = 1015 PPM, 5.8 PH

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It looks like you put a boat load of work into everything for those clones. i'll be waiting the 9 weeks out with you. Excited to see the results.
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Very nice setup man and those plants look great. I cant wait to see the finished product peace.
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12/26 Nute Numbers

Checked them at 930pm and their numbers were:

Big Red: 6.2 PH, 1039 PPM
Tootsie: 6.4 PH, 1082 PPM

Mixed a top-off solution by starting with 1 gallon RO water, added Liquid Karma based on 5 ml for each gal of res. solution (res holds 3 gal = 15 ml total). Then added Sweet based on 5 ml for each gal of res. solution (again, res holds 3 gal = 15 ml total). Topped off both reservoirs and adjusted PH.

Final numbers:

Big Red: 5.8 PH, 998 PPM
Tootsie: 5.8 PH, 1002 PPM

They are starting to stretch a bit for the light, so I am training them under the screen. I expect to do this for maybe 1-2 weeks before letting them run their course and flower.
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Old Dec-30-2007, 22:45
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Nute Numbers 12/28

Red's bubbler was at 5.2 PH with 1045 PPM
Toot's bubbler was at 5.2 with 1040 PPM.

All I did was I adjusted PH.

Red's bubbler is at 5.9 PH with 1045 PPM
Toot's bubbler is at 5.8 PH with 1040 PPM
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Nute Numbers 12/29

Red's bubbler was at 5.0 PH with 1100 PPM
Toot's bubbler was at 5.2 with 1045 PPM.

Leave tips are starting to curl and brown from nute burn. Added 1 gallon RO water to each and adjusted PH.

Red's bubbler is at 5.8 PH with 870PPM
Toot's bubbler is at 5.7 with 820 PPM

Working on getting some pics either tonight or tomorrow...

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Talking Nute Numbers 12/30

Checked them a few minutes ago and they grew over an inch since last night! Had to tuck their lil heads down under the screen again. Here are their stats:

Red (Left bubbler) = 5.4 PH, 827 PPM
Toots (Right bubbler) = 5.7 PH, 828 PPM.

Adjusted Red to 5.7 PH and left them as is from a PPM perspective.

Did I mention that they grew over an inch since last night? Oh yeah, some pics below...
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Post 1/2/08 Update

Just finished tucking them under again. They are starting to make the transition to flowering it appears since they were filpped to 12/12 a week ago yesterday. New nutes tonight or tomorrow sometime.

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Lightbulb Doms Diet Changes...

Time to go to flower nutes. Did a res change and they are now about 9 days into 12/12 and changed from PBP GROW to PBP BLOOM:

Red (Left Bubbler):
2 gal RO water = 12 PPM
+ 2ml/gal Zone = 12 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal EJ Microblast = 167 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal CalMag = 500 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal PBP Bloom = 882 PPM
+ 5 ml/gal Karma = 980 PPM
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Added Up and Nutes to Res, final numbers:
952 PPM, 5.6 PH, 2.5 gallons in res

Toots (Right Bubbler):
2 gal RO water = 15 PPM
+ 2ml/gal Zone = 15 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal EJ Microblast = 181 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal CalMag = 535 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal PBP Bloom = 892 PPM
+ 5 ml/gal Karma = 962 PPM
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Added Up and Nutes to Res, final numbers:
958 PPM, 5.5 PH, 2.5 gallons in res
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Ho Hum,

Not a helluva lot to report 'cept that they are chugging along getting tucked and numbers checked daily. Maybe I'll snap a pic or two without the HPS burning so that y'all can see their pretty little faces. I don't expect anything earthshattering from these gals, but I like a nice Kush and these will finish better than the last one that got nute deficiencies.

I bet I have some nute numbers I can report but it is routine stuff. If anyone wants to see them, post a message. Otherwise they will go unreported since my typinng sucks and it takes me forever.

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numbers are only interesting if they're abnormal.....
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Numbers are <...yawn...> normal and boring. However, here are their smiling little faces!
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How are the bigger stems handling things?
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Do you mean the Dominas? I just updated that Log a couple of minutes ago. They are chugging along and today is Day 1 of Flower for them.
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UR whole setup looks kicks ass. hell yah.
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MVP makes some DAMN efficient use of space and equipment.
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HC, welcome to the log. I'm doing the best I can with what I got. Pull up a chair and pack one, we got a ways to go yet but it will be a good time.
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Talking Res Change, New Nutes as of 1/12

Quick update on the little ladies. They are now 3 weeks into flower and perking up quite nicely. From the 4 clones, I have 9 colas developing that have reached the height of the upper screen.

Nute Numbers:
5.0 gal RO water = 12 PPM
+ 2ml/gal Zone = 12 PPM
+ 10 ml/gal EJ Microblast = 162 PPM
+ 15 ml/gal CalMag = 800 PPM
+ 15 ml/gal PBP Bloom = 1415 PPM
+ 1.0 gal RO water = 1190 PPM
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Added 3 gallons to each res, adjusted PH to 5.8

Here are a few pics from last week showing their growth and the 6x 23W CFLs that I added to increase light intensity. The black things on the upper screen are cable ties (aka zip ties) that I used to piece the screen together from old scrap lying around...
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they look very happy! Good work MVP.
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Day 22 of Flower

Checked them and their PH and PPM had moved a bit since the nute change. I noticed that they each drank down over 1/2 gal of water. I adjusted the PH and left PPM alone. Here is where the stand now:

Red (Left bubbler) = 5.8 PH, 1145 PPM
Toots (Right bubbler) = 5.7 PH, 1228 PPM.

Here are photos from an hour ago. They are starting to frost up and look like fine young ladies. They do, however, have 35-40 days to go until they can even THINK of the "H" word...

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