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Old Jan-28-2008, 01:48
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Dude you need to start your own thread with those photos.....like on your LED thread.
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Nice plants as usual, but what the hell is happening around here? First the site gets reorganized, then I get abducted by aliens, then WH starts growing in dirt. Next thing you know she'll be switching to dirt, then fires, floods, locusts, and the world will split in two and the weed growers will get transported to the other planet on the giant space arc. And no, I haven't been smoking, why do you ask?

Well, just, nice job (of course), and keep up the good work.

To answer your question, I use Liquid Light according to the directions except I do it at half strength on both the LL and Penetrator. This seems pretty much enough, and since this stuff is so expensive it would be nice to cut it to half price. I'm sure I'll experiment with strength later. As soon as the lights come on, about twice per week, I mist as many leaves as I can get to until they are completely coated and run off starts. I gently run my hand across them, trying not to disturb any trichomes, to try and get leaves that were covered wet too. Once the leaves are a little roughed up, I mist again only not as much this time. I also mist the underside of the leaves as much as possible, since this is really where it will do the most good (stomata on bottom). It's semi-important to have a good mister, not a good sprayer. The finer particle you can get the solution into as it's floating in the air, the better it will penetrate to hidden leaves. Of course a fog would be optimum. As far as the lights, I leave my 12 CFLs right where they are, which is as close as possible without burning. However I leave these switched off until any over spray on them has dried. I leave my 600W right where it is normally, which is something like 20-24". I keep trying to get it a little closer but the leaf temps keep going above 80 when I try. Needs a little work. Please let me know if I didn't answer your question. So far, don't you think it's some pretty amazing stuff? Oh yeah, I also foliar feed with SprayNGrow about half as often as LL.

I have some BBxNL and I like it a lot. Any ideas on how you might compare SNL to NL? Does it smell or taste more sour? Anyone?

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noted weedhound, sorry about that
just was interested in the liquid light. if it might help with the LEDs.
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Ha ha like your avatar as well stealth.....we promise to come over to your thread and check out your photos but everyone has their own.....

Opie I've tried the LL (full strength) on my brand new seedlings and they honestly did great!! i'm wondering at this point about what it would do in regards to "hardening off" your seedlings to the light. Mine are fairly far away from the mh at this point but it seemed to make them....well.....hardier to the light faster. Could be my imagination but......
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nice...think ill try some of that LL after mine get a little bigger.
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i am feeling in agreement with ur LL/ 'light hardiness' assessment.
i feel they may get a lil shock when u first use the stuff, but after that, its gravy.

check Opie's LL thread for my updates

I LOVE the fact that ur tryin soil again!!!!
especially the "attention to detail",,,ummm, i mean complete lack of attention to detail,LOL!

Let Mom Nature do her bit

hey, keep the dogs waggin tail away from it this time tho, ok?
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at this point but it seemed to make them....well.....hardier to the light faster. Could be my imagination but......
I don't think it's your imagination. LL is the most amazing thing I've ever seen in a plant food. I swear it seems mine grew an inch in 12 hours after applying it.
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guess im making a trip to the grow store...lol, that stuff has to be benificial to the LEDs
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How old is the plant in your waterfarm?
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Hi abdul1a,

The larger ones in the photos are germinated from seeds and they were first started on 11/7/07 and they've been in the flowering stage for 40 days (since 12/21) so altogether two months and three weeks old.

I'm afraid I didn't understand your light question on the other thread. What kind of lighting are you using there?
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Stealth I can hardly claim to be an expert either on LED's or Liquid Light so I can only offer the thought that in reading over the literature carefully (which i always try to do) I saw nothing about needing a certain kind of light, lighting, or spectrum. It HAS burned some of my older fan leaves which is something I've seen with other foliar sprays as well but DutchMaster recommends it for "rooted plants" one week old and older so I tried it on my one week old seedlings and they did quite well with it. I will add I was very careful with my lighting on them though. But I'm afraid I just can't help you with specifics.
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thanks anyway, im gonna try it. mine are seedlings too, so i guess ill get some tomorrow....lol
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Unhappy Some Tough Self Discoveries.......I Am a Bigot.

So little soil seedling is gone and I have to say it was quite an eye opener for me. First.......last year's potting soil was not a good choice as it turned out to be full of hatching fungus or soil gnats or whatever the hell they are that started appearing and running around everywhere in the dirt so I was NOT amused by the hygene practices so far. BUT....what REALLY did it was that I sprayed bug spray on the plant itself and the soil....but did not take into account the fact that the poor seedling should be removed from the lighting until dry which I didn't do. Yes....I fried my little baby with bug spray. I read the entire bottle......carefully.....to make sure it was safe for seedlings of that age and then proceeded to spray it and walk off leaving it directly under the light to burn to DEATH. I never thought of it as....well...an equal to my hydro babies or as it's own individual. Never occurred to me about it's needs or desires.

I am so ashamed.

I've spent the night in meditation and prayer and have come away with a new outlook. I'm germinating a new seed and Mr Hound is off at the hydro store getting the BEST QUALITY potting soil for a seedling that he can. I pledge to end ALL discrimination in regards to growing and treat ALL seedlings with certain unalienable rights.

Amen.
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So little soil seedling is gone and I have to say it was quite an eye opener for me. First.......last year's potting soil was not a good choice as it turned out to be full of hatching fungus or soil gnats or whatever the hell they are that started appearing and running around everywhere in the dirt so I was NOT amused by the hygene practices so far. BUT....what REALLY did it was that I sprayed bug spray on the plant itself and the soil....but did not take into account the fact that the poor seedling should be removed from the lighting until dry which I didn't do. Yes....I fried my little baby with bug spray. I read the entire bottle......carefully.....to make sure it was safe for seedlings of that age and then proceeded to spray it and walk off leaving it directly under the light to burn to DEATH. I never thought of it as....well...an equal to my hydro babies or as it's own individual. Never occurred to me about it's needs or desires.

I am so ashamed.

I've spent the night in meditation and prayer and have come away with a new outlook. I'm germinating a new seed and Mr Hound is off at the hydro store getting the BEST QUALITY potting soil for a seedling that he can. I pledge to end ALL discrimination in regards to growing and treat ALL seedlings with certain unalienable rights.

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