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Old Jan-31-2008, 12:35
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Yes, Ive been dead for quite a while, it's just that no one noticed.

Stealth, we're a simple crowd here. We don't like long words and we love neat pictures. I personally do not understand the LED's too well so I don't have a lot of questions about them and I tend to glaze over when the talk about them gets technical......I'm not saying EVERYONE does this.....just me.

Grows are never very exciting at the beginning......as you said. People don't want specs......they want results. You pop out a few super nice plants and I can GUARANTEE
people will be asking you questions right, left and sideways about your lights, your soil, etc.....That's what I mean about no recognition until LONG after you are gone.


When you turn them.....that's when you'll probably start seeing a bunch of nosy stoners sticking their heads and wanting to know whats going on.
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Now I DO like those seedling photos.....and the seedlings look very happy and healthy with your lighting (and not pink so I can really see them....)
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Well the plants seem to like that LED-light....they didn't died...they look nice & healthy....
Good work so far SnSstealth.... (That color is crazy)
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points taken...i really do appreciate everyone chiming in their ideas, points, opinions, (bellybuttons) and Im sure im spewing alot, just excited about the whole LED thing. took ALOT for me to give up the HIDs..i KNEW they worked. but i also knew that until i KNEW if the LEDs worked, it would bug the shit outta me...so if cture is right, and i am doomed to fail, fine. but i will know. do pics every few days, till they really get moving...thinkin im gonna let them get 24in before flowering, going for like 6fters...heh
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For WTF it is worth....

I for one don't give half a shit what nay sayers have for opinions. I respect someone who is willing to dare to experiment.



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It's not that he dared to expirement.....I think we all do that.......it's that he dared to expirement $1800 worth. That's pretty much a different ball game right there.
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99 Cent Store Led Lights

I picked this up the other day, an LED light for 99 cents. It has a power cord or takes 2 AA batteries. They also had pallets of CFL Bulbs that are paid for in part by edison to get us to switch out old bulbs. If Edison can sponsor energy saving products and distribute them this cheap why are the fricking red and blue one $600 bucks? Hello........I could buy 50 of these and some red or blue leds and swap out the whites here wouldn't you think?

And I would but knowing me I would knock out power on the western grid or get electrocuted. However I still might try, I just wondered if someone else thinks it could work because it seems too easy and too cheap.

Oh yeah and you can get this wonderful desk light in silver or black!!!
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in the case of LED grows it's going to be quality over quantity or i'd feel like I was wasting the money for no reason
Mmmm, could someone please explain how LED lights affect quality any differently than say... CFL, or halogen, or MH.
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not EVERYONE is going to feel that way or be that excited about it for one simple reason. Most people can't afford that kind of money in one go and so won't be investing in that lighting anytime soon

Stealth...you DO realize that you will NOT be recognized for your achievements until after you are dead. This is the price of genius....and I speak from personal experience.
SnS, there is iron in WHs words, yet they ring with a tone of discouragement. Please don't worry about the naysayers and nerdowells. Please continue with your plans that I personally am excited about, and will continue to be, right up until the point that in flowering when you decide to dump the experiment and some supplemental lighting. I recognize you not for so much for your genius (yet), but for the fact that you have the balls and the money to try an all-LED grow. LED's are coming soon, like it or not. Actually they are already here and extremely viable for many situations, but it's just that grow LEDs need a tad bit more of experimenting and tweaking. Just a couple more years of tweaking here and there. Not that I'm a big shot, but trust me, I took a class from industry leaders like Phillips and GE.
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opiei definitely agree with ya that grow LEDs are not perfected yet, and do need some work. But as they evolve just a weee more to get to that point, i'll be at the point waiting. Im sorry that we were in the financial situation to be able to do this, i mean, even a mediocre harvest will pay for the lights. I dont get though why how much we spent keeps coming up. again i say....someone had to do it, and my balls felt big...heh. ill have some more pics up tomorrow...they loved the lowering of the lights and the start of nutes....we set the lights up to be moved alot because like opie said i believe, we are doing some serious adjustments....constantly...but its somethingIve never done per say, so I dont expect amazing shit the first harvest. I already realize i should've used like a 15 gal pot under each light with 4-5 plants in each...or it could still be cause the stage they are in....I...Dont...Know...LOL but im learning alot right along with you guys....so what im rambling about is basically this...feel free to tell me im doing something wrong, or give suggestions...but dont shoot my shit down before its even started....weedhound, opie, mvp, cma...none of you guys have really bugged me... i was mainly talking about cture, didnt wanna name people, but others thought it was them...

I needed that...but by all means, everyone chime in all you want

and luvfriday, sorry man, but those LEDs wouldnt grow with 1000 of them...they have to be tuned...blah blah...read earlier on the thread.. lots o spec reasons
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how can you tell me they wont work, when they haven't been used yet.
They will work and they do fine for vegging, and LED arrays have been used many times for growing. Within 15 years I guarantee that myself and many others will be switching to LED grow lights unless some new, better thing gomes along before hand. Just about the same time that they start to function well for producing nice big colas similar to those HID produce, and the initial price to do so becomes a little more realistic.

Please don't get discouraged. Most people thought the guys working on cures for many diseases, or getting some photos of the Martian landscape, or trying to build a flying machine, to name a few, were complete idiots and wasting valuable time and money. Kudos, and have a little "spirit of experimentation" rep. Though it will not be, I want your yield to be just this side of sliced bread. Soon though, soon... Just any decent yield will get me thinking more strongly about switching. I do not expect, nor am I hoping for any kind of astounding yield. Weed smokes the same in the bowl whether it's from a huge crop or not, and the low cost of running LEDs combined with their ridiculously long life, would make the purchase price well worth the money if the yield were anything close to conventional lighting techniques. I'm not asking for much here, just some good, powerful grow lights that are nearly free and cost nothing to operate. That's not asking too much is it?

I want to switch as soon as possible and guys like you may end up making soon a reality. Thanks for the experiment and thanks for sharing.
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Wow, for a dead person you have been producing some pretty cool grows and some nice write-ups. Who's your unghost writer?
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...i also knew that until i KNEW if the LEDs worked, it would bug the shit outta me...
Nice attitude of exploration and experimentation. I know the feeling. I like it. It's like, "I just gotta know and I won't sleep much until I do". I sure wish I had the money to do nothing for a living, (or at least for a hobby) other than experimenting with horticulture as it relates to weed farming, and other healing and psychotropic flora. Whatever experiment or item of controversy that popped into my head, or the heads of the people of the cancom forum. (I certainly would not consider frequenting a different forum.) Hey, anyone out there have some grant money for me?

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